'The Battle For Bond: The Genesis of Cinema's Greatest Hero'
#91
Posted 25 June 2007 - 07:36 AM
They should have made a hardback with dustjacket ltd edition, I would have snapped that one in a minute.
#92
Posted 05 July 2007 - 01:46 AM
Hope it gets here soon!
#93
Posted 05 July 2007 - 03:11 AM
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 05:25 AM
#96
Posted 05 July 2007 - 07:47 AM
Show of hands-besides ACE & Royal Dalton, who has received their copy of this book?
Got mine about two weeks ago from Tomahawk direct (see my posts of that time for my praise of their service).
Really excellent stuff. About two thirds the way through. Will give final judgement when I finish.
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 10:00 AM
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Posted 05 July 2007 - 05:20 PM
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Posted 06 July 2007 - 12:40 AM
#101
Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:08 PM
Finally.
#102
Posted 09 July 2007 - 12:23 AM
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:20 AM
#104
Posted 09 July 2007 - 04:08 PM
I just went on amazon.com in the US and it didn't come up. Guess I'll try barnes and noble.
Not out in the US yet: http://debrief.comma...p...st&p=748974
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 06:00 PM
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Posted 11 July 2007 - 09:35 PM
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Posted 13 July 2007 - 01:14 AM
#109
Posted 13 July 2007 - 02:33 AM
I caught one mistake, though-he writes that, after Bond tells Fiona "My dear girl, don't flatter yourself. What I did tonight was for King & country. You don't think it gave me any pleasure, do you?" in Thunderball, she slaps him. Didn't happen.
#110
Posted 13 July 2007 - 03:59 AM
#111
Posted 22 July 2007 - 01:05 AM
None of the principal players (Ian Fleming, Kevin McClory, Ivar Bryce, and Jack Whittingham) come out smelling like a rose in this thing save for Whittingham. Personally, I don't begrudge McClory for anything he did up through the release of Never Say Never Again as it was within his rights to do them (and he did contribute some very meaning stuff to the 007 legend). However, it's his actions post NSNA that irritate me and make me less inclined to want to like him. I'll discuss more when there are more reactions to the book.
In the meantime, thank you Mr. Sellers for a wonderful and insightful book on a very important segment of Bond history.
#112
Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:29 AM
#114
Posted 02 August 2007 - 02:46 AM
-----UPDATE-----
New book by Robert Sellers; due in October 2007
#115
Posted 03 August 2007 - 03:18 PM
I ordered it from Amazon UK two weeks ago for 11.99GBP.
#116
Posted 12 August 2007 - 04:25 PM
I'm not yet 100 pages into it, but from what I've read up to this point about the development of the aborted Thunderball movie, I'm even more stunned that Kevin McClory could later make such sweeping claims of ownership of Bond. I was worried this book might have a pro McClory slant, but it's clearly neutral. I didn't realize just how much work Fleming did, writing nurmous treatments, etc. Thus far, McClory is simply a participant in brainstorming sessions, giving Fleming notes, as were Ivar Bryce and Jack Whittingham (who, if anyone, deserves more credit than he's ever been given). Throwing out ideas in a room is NOTHING compared to having to go off and face a blank piece of paper. And a producer trying to claim writing credit because the writer incorporated his notes is as old as the movie business. Having been through the development process myself, I see exactly where everyone is coming from.
Fascinating!
(It's also clear to me Fleming should have never used this material for a book.)
#117
Posted 12 August 2007 - 05:28 PM
On reading the book it appears to me that Fleming was either incredible naive or incredible arrogant. I suspect the later and I also suspect it was a class thing. I think he thought he was above these other people. Kevin McClory to me comes out of it a very sad individual. He spent his whole life since THUNDERBALL chasing the same dream. He really should have got on with something else, though I can understand his anguish. He was so near that pot of gold that Broccoli and Saltzman reaped.It's also clear to me Fleming should have never used this material for a book.
#118
Posted 20 August 2007 - 12:04 AM
What an AMAZING book. Thank you Robert Sellers. This is not only a gift for Bond fans, but also a gift to the families of Jack Whittingham, Ian Fleming, and Cubby Broccoli to have the facts laid out here. I'm thrilled that we have the real story behind Kevin McClory -- who is clearly one of the greatest pricks to have ever walked this earth.
#119
Posted 20 August 2007 - 12:10 AM
But McClory made MILLIONS from Thunderball. Millions. And all he did to earn it was have a few story meetings with Ian Fleming in the 1950s, he didn't even need to actually produce the movie. Heck, he then made more untold millions from NSNA (while, again, someone else produced the movie). And he pulled in another 2 million selling rights he didn't own to Sony in the 90s. How much did McClory make off James Bond in his lifetime? Ten, twenty, fifty million? I'd call that a pot of gold. And unlike everyone else who made gold from Bond, McClory didn't do an honest day's work. He just sued people, and screwed people, and took credit for other people's work.Kevin McClory to me comes out of it a very sad individual. He spent his whole life since THUNDERBALL chasing the same dream. He really should have got on with something else, though I can understand his anguish. He was so near that pot of gold that Broccoli and Saltzman reaped.
But on that, we agree.On reading the book it appears to me that Fleming was either incredible naive or incredible arrogant. I suspect the later and I also suspect it was a class thing. I think he thought he was above these other people.It's also clear to me Fleming should have never used this material for a book.
#120
Posted 20 August 2007 - 12:15 AM