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[Judo chop]

I have a creeping feeling the title's not going to be something plucked from fanboy's dream.

It'll be freshly concocted from the minds of...

Hey! Good question. Who does write and seal the title of the Bond films? I

[00Twelve]

Well, what do we think of that AICN report? Think it's gonna end up being POAL?

[Cody]

In one of the recent Haggis interviews, he mentions having suggested a title to EON.

The Property of a Lady is probably my top choice for 22's title at this point, but I'm still ambivalent about it. On one hand, it's Fleming and very fitting if the "ghost" of Vesper has a big influence over the film and Bond's state. On the other, I'm not sure about its marketability as it sounds rather Merchant Ivory/"chick flick"... I have trouble picturing groups of male teens getting hyped up about and buying tickets to see a movie called The Property of a Lady... Though I'm sure it just being a Bond movie is enough of a selling point to overcome that, and they've already used much worse.

But I'm definitely taking the AICN report with the recommended grain of salt.

Edited by Cody, 07 September 2007 - 05:14 PM.

[Loomis]

I've often thought that THE PROPERTY OF A LADY would be a great title for a Bond film, and that it would work for BOND 22 with reference to Vesper's necklace, e.g.:

Bond advances menacingly on Vesper's Algerian boyfriend, a gun in one hand and Vesper's necklace in the other.

ALGERIAN BOYFRIEND: What's that?

BOND: It was the property of a lady we both knew, Vesper Lynd. I'm surprised you've forgotten - you gave it to her.

Action scene ensues.

So, yeah, I think it'd be an excellent title, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is the BOND 22 title. Still, who knows?

[00Twelve]

I've often thought that THE PROPERTY OF A LADY would be a great title for a Bond film, and that it would work for BOND 22 with reference to Vesper's necklace, e.g.:

Bond advances menacingly on Vesper's Algerian boyfriend, a gun in one hand and Vesper's necklace in the other.

ALGERIAN BOYFRIEND: What's that?

BOND: It was the property of a lady we both knew, Vesper Lynd. I'm surprised you've forgotten - you gave it to her.

Action scene ensues.

So, yeah, I think it'd be an excellent title, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is the BOND 22 title. Still, who knows?

Drifting only a few yards off onto a bunny trail, I was thinking: Wouldn't it be crazy if, instead of/before the hypothetical action scene, and presuming the Algerian is indeed a villainous (or not) character, they got into a conversation where the Algerian berates Bond for feeling self-righteous enough to avenge a girl with whom he only had a short love affair, while he (the Algerian) spent a (conjectured) much longer period of time in a relationship with her. You know, kind of like turning the tables on Bond's supposedly righteous deed. Making him look like the one who's lost perspective. Not likely, but it would be interesting, IMO, to see this kind of table-turning that forces Bond to look at himself.

Eh? <scratches head, shrugs>

[Judo chop]

I've often thought that THE PROPERTY OF A LADY would be a great title for a Bond film, and that it would work for BOND 22 with reference to Vesper's necklace, e.g.:

Bond advances menacingly on Vesper's Algerian boyfriend, a gun in one hand and Vesper's necklace in the other.

ALGERIAN BOYFRIEND: What's that?

BOND: It was the property of a lady we both knew, Vesper Lynd. I'm surprised you've forgotten - you gave it to her.

Action scene ensues.

So, yeah, I think it'd be an excellent title, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is the BOND 22 title. Still, who knows?

Drifting only a few yards off onto a bunny trail, I was thinking: Wouldn't it be crazy if, instead of/before the hypothetical action scene, and presuming the Algerian is indeed a villainous (or not) character, they got into a conversation where the Algerian berates Bond for feeling self-righteous enough to avenge a girl with whom he only had a short love affair, while he (the Algerian) spent a (conjectured) much longer period of time in a relationship with her. You know, kind of like turning the tables on Bond's supposedly righteous deed. Making him look like the one who's lost perspective. Not likely, but it would be interesting, IMO, to see this kind of table-turning that forces Bond to look at himself.

Eh? <scratches head, shrugs>

Anything to

[dodge]

[quote name='Judo chop' post='770254' date='7 September 2007 - 18:09'][quote name='00Twelve' post='770251' date='7 September 2007 - 12:54'][quote name='Loomis' post='770239' date='7 September 2007 - 12:31']I've often thought that THE PROPERTY OF A LADY would be a great title for a Bond film, and that it would work for BOND 22 with reference to Vesper's necklace, e.g.:

Bond advances menacingly on Vesper's Algerian boyfriend, a gun in one hand and Vesper's necklace in the other.

ALGERIAN BOYFRIEND: What's that?

BOND: It was the property of a lady we both knew, Vesper Lynd. I'm surprised you've forgotten - you gave it to her.

Action scene ensues.

So, yeah, I think it'd be an excellent title, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is the BOND 22 title. Still, who knows?[/quote]
Drifting only a few yards off onto a bunny trail, I was thinking: Wouldn't it be crazy if, instead of/before the hypothetical action scene, and presuming the Algerian is indeed a villainous (or not) character, they got into a conversation where the Algerian berates Bond for feeling self-righteous enough to avenge a girl with whom he only had a short love affair, while he (the Algerian) spent a (conjectured) much longer period of time in a relationship with her. You know, kind of like turning the tables on Bond's supposedly righteous deed. Making him look like the one who's lost perspective. Not likely, but it would be interesting, IMO, to see this kind of table-turning that forces Bond to look at himself.

Eh? <scratches head, shrugs>
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[Monsieur B]

[quote name='Judo chop' post='770254' date='7 September 2007 - 14:09'][quote name='00Twelve' post='770251' date='7 September 2007 - 12:54'][quote name='Loomis' post='770239' date='7 September 2007 - 12:31']I've often thought that THE PROPERTY OF A LADY would be a great title for a Bond film, and that it would work for BOND 22 with reference to Vesper's necklace, e.g.:

Bond advances menacingly on Vesper's Algerian boyfriend, a gun in one hand and Vesper's necklace in the other.

ALGERIAN BOYFRIEND: What's that?

BOND: It was the property of a lady we both knew, Vesper Lynd. I'm surprised you've forgotten - you gave it to her.

Action scene ensues.

So, yeah, I think it'd be an excellent title, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is the BOND 22 title. Still, who knows?[/quote]
Drifting only a few yards off onto a bunny trail, I was thinking: Wouldn't it be crazy if, instead of/before the hypothetical action scene, and presuming the Algerian is indeed a villainous (or not) character, they got into a conversation where the Algerian berates Bond for feeling self-righteous enough to avenge a girl with whom he only had a short love affair, while he (the Algerian) spent a (conjectured) much longer period of time in a relationship with her. You know, kind of like turning the tables on Bond's supposedly righteous deed. Making him look like the one who's lost perspective. Not likely, but it would be interesting, IMO, to see this kind of table-turning that forces Bond to look at himself.

Eh? <scratches head, shrugs>
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Anything to

[Fro]

The Algerian love knot (and whatever other stuff Vesper has left), is a great McGuffin (in the George Lucas definition of the term) for the beginning of the movie.

[Monsieur B]

The Algerian love knot (and whatever other stuff Vesper has left), is a great McGuffin (in the George Lucas definition of the term) for the beginning of the movie.

Wasn't the term, MacGuffin, coined by Hitchcock?

[Qwerty]

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[stamper]

DANIEL CRAIG IS JAMES BOND

IN

IAN FLEMING'S

MACGUFFIN

No it doesn't work

[DaveBond21]

LOL

[Royal Dalton]

The Naked Idol

[DaveBond21]

Day of the Monkeys?

I'd like to see James Bond fighting off angry chimps with machetes...

[Trey]

my vote goes to:

"The Man with the Octopussy"

[DaveBond21]

Nothing Lasts Forever is very Bondian, but it's OK. There are worse titles than this one.

[Harmsway]

THE PROPERTY OF A LADY gets my vote at this point.

[DaveBond21]

THE PROPERTY OF A LADY gets my vote at this point.

It seems like a likely title, even if the actual story may not be used.

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I've often thought that THE PROPERTY OF A LADY would be a great title for a Bond film, and that it would work for BOND 22 with reference to Vesper's necklace, e.g.:

Bond advances menacingly on Vesper's Algerian boyfriend, a gun in one hand and Vesper's necklace in the other.

ALGERIAN BOYFRIEND: What's that?

BOND: It was the property of a lady we both knew, Vesper Lynd. I'm surprised you've forgotten - you gave it to her.

Action scene ensues.

So, yeah, I think it'd be an excellent title, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is the BOND 22 title. Still, who knows?

I could not agree more, Loomis. It seems the perfect title - and, like "Casino Royale", it's slightly different for a Bond title - it's got a certain panache to it. Better still, it omits those tired Bond title keywords. Chuck in the Algerian loveknot plot thread and it makes perfect sense!

I have a feeling, sadly, we'll get an original title, though. Happy to be proven wrong, mind you!

[Publius]

I have trouble picturing groups of male teens getting hyped up about and buying tickets to see a movie called The Property of a Lady...

If they marketed it (and the actual film was) dark enough, with vengeance being a key theme, I not only think the title wouldn't matter, but that the contrast could strengthen it. If they use lots of hearts and the color pink, then yeah, it'll take a hit with young males. However, Craig's Bond and this new direction is clearly drawing in new fans, such as females, which would probably counteract any loss over a "weak" title.

Anyway, I've flip-flopped on this before, but I'm once again throwing my support behind TPOAL. I'd also like to see them use Quantum of Solace eventually.

[Garth007]

so i take it Bond 22 is going to be called "Property OF A Lady" then. If so good because it fits perfect for the situation bond is now in.

[Qwerty]

so i take it Bond 22 is going to be called "Property OF A Lady" then. If so good because it fits perfect for the situation bond is now in.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

[HildebrandRarity]

Bond 22 could do without material referrences to Algerian love knots and boyfriends. Passing references are the way to go, i.m.o. because I still would like this movie to be as close to "stand alone" as possible while maintaing the next step in "character arc" story.

If TPOAL is used as a title it would be cheap/cheesy to have the love knot as reason for said title.

James Bond needs to have a wider world view in this movie ("the big picture") and TPOAL needs to have a wider world view reason for it being the title to Bond 22.

The love knot reason just doesnt cut it i.m.o.

I do agree that TPOAL with a 007 logo behind it would maintain the 'young male' demographic while enhancing the 'female' demographic they seem to have picked up with Casino Royale. I can tell you first hand that a few females went to see CR on opening night in my company that simply would not have gone to see Die Another Day.

Edited by HildebrandRarity, 19 September 2007 - 03:12 PM.

[Garth007]

so i take it Bond 22 is going to be called "Property OF A Lady" then. If so good because it fits perfect for the situation bond is now in.

Nothing is confirmed yet.

I hope it is soon.

[Qwerty]

Seems like it could easily go either way. With Casino Royale, we knew for a long time, but it was basically the exact opposite for Die Another Day.

[DaveBond21]

I hope it's soon too. It would be good if we had an idea of the titles they have already considered or are discussing right now.

[Garth007]

I hope it's soon too. It would be good if we had an idea of the titles they have already considered or are discussing right now.

yea, i had the same idea.

[DaveBond21]

I hope it's soon too. It would be good if we had an idea of the titles they have already considered or are discussing right now.

yea, i had the same idea.

Yes, well, it happened with the new Indiana Jones movie, where fans were given the options they were looking at. Plus, with DAD, we had the working title of Beyond the Ice and others, so it would be cool to know what they've thought about.

[Qwerty]

Plus, with DAD, we had the working title of Beyond the Ice

I believe that was pure media speculation from the word go.