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[MrKidd]

This whole thread is a bummer. You guys are nuking my childhood memories left and right. I wouldn't erase any Bond film because while there are a few I don't like as much, every Bond film is an important part of the series' history and someone somewhere is fond of it and enjoys it and has nice memories of it. Why would I want to be so selfish as to "erase" someone's favorite movie just because it's not my cup of tea?

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of LALD but to completely erase a film from existence should be reserved for unredeemable bad movies. If you consider any of the Bonds as such, you should also be evaluating your permanence in this forum.
That said, I wouldn't wish NSNA upon my worst enemy.

Do you mean one has to positively adore each and every bond movie, just because they are bond movies, or else be disregarded as an unfaithful bond fan ? I don't get it. I would be very glad if the disastrous TND had never been issued, yet I do consider myself a bond fan, and actually just registered in the CBn Forum. I do not consider bond movies to be the Wholly Scriptures ; one may question their quality.

Absolutely agreed.

Bond films that I'd make vanish: GOLDFINGER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, and DIE ANOTHER DAY.

Hi, the name’s Forum. Bond Forum. Perhaps you were expecting someone else? Seriously, you would actually get rid of GF, YOLT, DAF, TMWGG?? I mean, those are the movies that MAKES a Bond fan – they’re what Bond is all about (in the movies at least). It’s like saying you enjoy a cooked breakfast as long as there’s no sausage, bacon or eggs! I know we all have our favorites but you’re redefining why Bond has been so successful. Not saying they’re the Woolly Scriptures or that you’re not allowed to critique but if the series started off with LTK we’d all be posting on IMDB saying they should make more films using this Bond character!
As for the Brosnan movies you suggest, here’s a match my friend! Only joking, but I promise I won’t tell on you!

Edited by MrKidd, 24 January 2010 - 03:03 PM.

[Publius]

Seriously, you would actually get rid of GF, YOLT, DAF, TMWGG?? I mean, those are the movies that MAKES a Bond fan – they’re what Bond is all about (in the movies at least). It’s like saying you enjoy a cooked breakfast as long as there’s no sausage, bacon or eggs!

In his defense, one of the amazing things about being a Bond fan is that you could ax half the films and still be left with more than any other franchise has. And I'm sure what tdalton and others (myself included) would like more than just simply erasing a Bond film would be for some to have been done differently, sometimes with different actors.

But in the absence of that option, I can see why some people would be okay with seeing certain films simply vanish. After all, each Bond film that you don't like means more fans wanting to take your beloved character and series in a direction you won't enjoy, and it changes popular expectations for the franchise. In a world without some of the more flippant or outlandish entries, there wouldn't be panic and confusion whenever the powers that be decided to go darker or more realistic.

[tdalton]

This whole thread is a bummer. You guys are nuking my childhood memories left and right. I wouldn't erase any Bond film because while there are a few I don't like as much, every Bond film is an important part of the series' history and someone somewhere is fond of it and enjoys it and has nice memories of it. Why would I want to be so selfish as to "erase" someone's favorite movie just because it's not my cup of tea?

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of LALD but to completely erase a film from existence should be reserved for unredeemable bad movies. If you consider any of the Bonds as such, you should also be evaluating your permanence in this forum.
That said, I wouldn't wish NSNA upon my worst enemy.

Do you mean one has to positively adore each and every bond movie, just because they are bond movies, or else be disregarded as an unfaithful bond fan ? I don't get it. I would be very glad if the disastrous TND had never been issued, yet I do consider myself a bond fan, and actually just registered in the CBn Forum. I do not consider bond movies to be the Wholly Scriptures ; one may question their quality.

Absolutely agreed.

Bond films that I'd make vanish: GOLDFINGER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, and DIE ANOTHER DAY.

Hi, the name’s Forum. Bond Forum. Perhaps you were expecting someone else? Seriously, you would actually get rid of GF, YOLT, DAF, TMWGG?? I mean, those are the movies that MAKES a Bond fan – they’re what Bond is all about (in the movies at least). It’s like saying you enjoy a cooked breakfast as long as there’s no sausage, bacon or eggs! I know we all have our favorites but you’re redefining why Bond has been so successful. Not saying they’re the Woolly Scriptures or that you’re not allowed to critique but if the series started off with LTK we’d all be posting on IMDB saying they should make more films using this Bond character!
As for the Brosnan movies you suggest, here’s a match my friend! Only joking, but I promise I won’t tell on you!

Those movies don't at all "make" a Bond fan. I can't stand those films. The only time I watch them is if I do a marathon of the entire series, and they just get worse and worse with each viewing. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER is, quite honestly, one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's so poorly conceived that one has to wonder if the only reason it even got greenlit was because of the fact that it's technically a "Bond film" and that it starred Sean Connery. I feel the exact same way about TMWTGG. I've never been a fan of GOLDFINGER, as I find it to be one of the most bland blockbusters ever, and YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE is a terribly misguided film, and one that is just so over the top in terms of ridiculous that it's amazing that it manages to be so boring at the same time (and the performances are THE worst in the series in that film).

I'll take DR. NO, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, LICENCE TO KILL, CASINO ROYALE, and QUANTUM OF SOLACE any day of the week over any of the films I mentioned I would make vanish, and I'd even take the likes of MOONRAKER and A VIEW TO A KILL over them as well.

[MrKidd]

This whole thread is a bummer. You guys are nuking my childhood memories left and right. I wouldn't erase any Bond film because while there are a few I don't like as much, every Bond film is an important part of the series' history and someone somewhere is fond of it and enjoys it and has nice memories of it. Why would I want to be so selfish as to "erase" someone's favorite movie just because it's not my cup of tea?

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of LALD but to completely erase a film from existence should be reserved for unredeemable bad movies. If you consider any of the Bonds as such, you should also be evaluating your permanence in this forum.
That said, I wouldn't wish NSNA upon my worst enemy.

Do you mean one has to positively adore each and every bond movie, just because they are bond movies, or else be disregarded as an unfaithful bond fan ? I don't get it. I would be very glad if the disastrous TND had never been issued, yet I do consider myself a bond fan, and actually just registered in the CBn Forum. I do not consider bond movies to be the Wholly Scriptures ; one may question their quality.

Absolutely agreed.

Bond films that I'd make vanish: GOLDFINGER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, and DIE ANOTHER DAY.

Hi, the name’s Forum. Bond Forum. Perhaps you were expecting someone else? Seriously, you would actually get rid of GF, YOLT, DAF, TMWGG?? I mean, those are the movies that MAKES a Bond fan – they’re what Bond is all about (in the movies at least). It’s like saying you enjoy a cooked breakfast as long as there’s no sausage, bacon or eggs! I know we all have our favorites but you’re redefining why Bond has been so successful. Not saying they’re the Woolly Scriptures or that you’re not allowed to critique but if the series started off with LTK we’d all be posting on IMDB saying they should make more films using this Bond character!
As for the Brosnan movies you suggest, here’s a match my friend! Only joking, but I promise I won’t tell on you!

Those movies don't at all "make" a Bond fan. I can't stand those films. The only time I watch them is if I do a marathon of the entire series, and they just get worse and worse with each viewing. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER is, quite honestly, one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's so poorly conceived that one has to wonder if the only reason it even got greenlit was because of the fact that it's technically a "Bond film" and that it starred Sean Connery. I feel the exact same way about TMWTGG. I've never been a fan of GOLDFINGER, as I find it to be one of the most bland blockbusters ever, and YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE is a terribly misguided film, and one that is just so over the top in terms of ridiculous that it's amazing that it manages to be so boring at the same time (and the performances are THE worst in the series in that film).

I'll take DR. NO, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, LICENCE TO KILL, CASINO ROYALE, and QUANTUM OF SOLACE any day of the week over any of the films I mentioned I would make vanish, and I'd even take the likes of MOONRAKER and A VIEW TO A KILL over them as well.

Ok Tdalton - keep yer hair on! I didn't mean that liking those movies was a prerequisite of becoming a fan. My point is those movies have made millions of Bond fans over the years and define a Bond-movie to many many people. Their influence is far and wide thorughout the franchise. My surprise is that any fan would actually want to destroy them from history given the franchise for what it is. Your fandom is not in question tdalton. Your choices for destruction, however, leave me feeling all

[tdalton]

This whole thread is a bummer. You guys are nuking my childhood memories left and right. I wouldn't erase any Bond film because while there are a few I don't like as much, every Bond film is an important part of the series' history and someone somewhere is fond of it and enjoys it and has nice memories of it. Why would I want to be so selfish as to "erase" someone's favorite movie just because it's not my cup of tea?

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of LALD but to completely erase a film from existence should be reserved for unredeemable bad movies. If you consider any of the Bonds as such, you should also be evaluating your permanence in this forum.
That said, I wouldn't wish NSNA upon my worst enemy.

Do you mean one has to positively adore each and every bond movie, just because they are bond movies, or else be disregarded as an unfaithful bond fan ? I don't get it. I would be very glad if the disastrous TND had never been issued, yet I do consider myself a bond fan, and actually just registered in the CBn Forum. I do not consider bond movies to be the Wholly Scriptures ; one may question their quality.

Absolutely agreed.

Bond films that I'd make vanish: GOLDFINGER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, and DIE ANOTHER DAY.

Hi, the name’s Forum. Bond Forum. Perhaps you were expecting someone else? Seriously, you would actually get rid of GF, YOLT, DAF, TMWGG?? I mean, those are the movies that MAKES a Bond fan – they’re what Bond is all about (in the movies at least). It’s like saying you enjoy a cooked breakfast as long as there’s no sausage, bacon or eggs! I know we all have our favorites but you’re redefining why Bond has been so successful. Not saying they’re the Woolly Scriptures or that you’re not allowed to critique but if the series started off with LTK we’d all be posting on IMDB saying they should make more films using this Bond character!
As for the Brosnan movies you suggest, here’s a match my friend! Only joking, but I promise I won’t tell on you!

Those movies don't at all "make" a Bond fan. I can't stand those films. The only time I watch them is if I do a marathon of the entire series, and they just get worse and worse with each viewing. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER is, quite honestly, one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's so poorly conceived that one has to wonder if the only reason it even got greenlit was because of the fact that it's technically a "Bond film" and that it starred Sean Connery. I feel the exact same way about TMWTGG. I've never been a fan of GOLDFINGER, as I find it to be one of the most bland blockbusters ever, and YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE is a terribly misguided film, and one that is just so over the top in terms of ridiculous that it's amazing that it manages to be so boring at the same time (and the performances are THE worst in the series in that film).

I'll take DR. NO, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, LICENCE TO KILL, CASINO ROYALE, and QUANTUM OF SOLACE any day of the week over any of the films I mentioned I would make vanish, and I'd even take the likes of MOONRAKER and A VIEW TO A KILL over them as well.

Ok Tdalton - keep yer hair on! I didn't mean that liking those movies was a prerequisite of becoming a fan. My point is those movies have made millions of Bond fans over the years and define a Bond-movie to many many people. Their influence is far and wide thorughout the franchise. My surprise is that any fan would actually want to destroy them from history given the franchise for what it is. Your fandom is not in question tdalton. Your choices for destruction, however, leave me feeling all

No offense was taken. Looking back on it, I should have ended the post with a

I understand your point, I just happen to dislike those movies so much that if only given the two options of either having the film as it currently stands or not having it at all, I'd take the second option. I'd be more inclined to agree with Publius' point about wanting those films done differently (and with different actors) as opposed to just wiping them out entirely. That's where I think I'd truly fall on the spectrum, but I don't think that was the point of this thread, which is why I'd take no YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE over the actual film that carried that title.

[MrKidd]

This whole thread is a bummer. You guys are nuking my childhood memories left and right. I wouldn't erase any Bond film because while there are a few I don't like as much, every Bond film is an important part of the series' history and someone somewhere is fond of it and enjoys it and has nice memories of it. Why would I want to be so selfish as to "erase" someone's favorite movie just because it's not my cup of tea?

Yeah. I'm not a big fan of LALD but to completely erase a film from existence should be reserved for unredeemable bad movies. If you consider any of the Bonds as such, you should also be evaluating your permanence in this forum.
That said, I wouldn't wish NSNA upon my worst enemy.

Do you mean one has to positively adore each and every bond movie, just because they are bond movies, or else be disregarded as an unfaithful bond fan ? I don't get it. I would be very glad if the disastrous TND had never been issued, yet I do consider myself a bond fan, and actually just registered in the CBn Forum. I do not consider bond movies to be the Wholly Scriptures ; one may question their quality.

Absolutely agreed.

Bond films that I'd make vanish: GOLDFINGER, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, and DIE ANOTHER DAY.

Hi, the name’s Forum. Bond Forum. Perhaps you were expecting someone else? Seriously, you would actually get rid of GF, YOLT, DAF, TMWGG?? I mean, those are the movies that MAKES a Bond fan – they’re what Bond is all about (in the movies at least). It’s like saying you enjoy a cooked breakfast as long as there’s no sausage, bacon or eggs! I know we all have our favorites but you’re redefining why Bond has been so successful. Not saying they’re the Woolly Scriptures or that you’re not allowed to critique but if the series started off with LTK we’d all be posting on IMDB saying they should make more films using this Bond character!
As for the Brosnan movies you suggest, here’s a match my friend! Only joking, but I promise I won’t tell on you!

Those movies don't at all "make" a Bond fan. I can't stand those films. The only time I watch them is if I do a marathon of the entire series, and they just get worse and worse with each viewing. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER is, quite honestly, one of the worst films I've ever seen. It's so poorly conceived that one has to wonder if the only reason it even got greenlit was because of the fact that it's technically a "Bond film" and that it starred Sean Connery. I feel the exact same way about TMWTGG. I've never been a fan of GOLDFINGER, as I find it to be one of the most bland blockbusters ever, and YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE is a terribly misguided film, and one that is just so over the top in terms of ridiculous that it's amazing that it manages to be so boring at the same time (and the performances are THE worst in the series in that film).

I'll take DR. NO, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, LICENCE TO KILL, CASINO ROYALE, and QUANTUM OF SOLACE any day of the week over any of the films I mentioned I would make vanish, and I'd even take the likes of MOONRAKER and A VIEW TO A KILL over them as well.

Ok Tdalton - keep yer hair on! I didn't mean that liking those movies was a prerequisite of becoming a fan. My point is those movies have made millions of Bond fans over the years and define a Bond-movie to many many people. Their influence is far and wide thorughout the franchise. My surprise is that any fan would actually want to destroy them from history given the franchise for what it is. Your fandom is not in question tdalton. Your choices for destruction, however, leave me feeling all

No offense was taken. Looking back on it, I should have ended the post with a

I understand your point, I just happen to dislike those movies so much that if only given the two options of either having the film as it currently stands or not having it at all, I'd take the second option. I'd be more inclined to agree with Publius' point about wanting those films done differently (and with different actors) as opposed to just wiping them out entirely. That's where I think I'd truly fall on the spectrum, but I don't think that was the point of this thread, which is why I'd take no YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE over the actual film that carried that title.

And a million to you too! Anyway - fair enough we're all entitled to our considered opinions! I see in another thread that your fantasy director is Sean Penn!! Kind of explains why you're not so keen on YOLT then! I guess you like your Bond a bit on the moody side! Still, GOLDFINGER???!! GOLDFINGER??!! No way, buddy!

[Messervy]

I guess in the end this all explains why Bond lasted for so long: there are no 2 identical Bond fans. Everyone loves specific movies and dislikes others (even if only in part), and then again never for exactly the same reasons as those of the next one. Bond is appealing in lots of different ways, so there is an infinity of movies still to be issued. One can only marvel at the fact that there has never been any kind of repetition in the movies throughout the decades. And, by the way, this is the very reason for this forum: to share views and ideas on what was done, what could have been done, and what should be done. Long live Bond !

[Safari Suit]

I can't stand those films. The only time I watch them is if I do a marathon of the entire series, and they just get worse and worse with each viewing.

Couldn't/shouldn't you just not watch those films, rather than fantasy-erasing them from history and putting yourself through misery and boredom every time you do a marathon?

One can only marvel at the fact that there has never been any kind of repetition in the movies throughout the decades.

Ummm....

[tdalton]

I can't stand those films. The only time I watch them is if I do a marathon of the entire series, and they just get worse and worse with each viewing.

Couldn't/shouldn't you just not watch those films, rather than fantasy-erasing them from history and putting yourself through misery and boredom every time you do a marathon?

Where did I say that I actually was "fantasy-erasing" those films from the franchise? The thread posed the question of which Bond films would you make vanish if you could, and I simply answered the question as to which films I could do without. Doesn't mean that I've gone through the franchise and started "fantasy-erasing" the films I don't like.

[Safari Suit]

What you just described is what I meant by "fantasy-erasing".

Seriously though, I'm genuinely interesting in why you don't simply just not watch the films? I didn't mean it as an attack (well, not that much of one )

[tdalton]

What you just described is what I meant by "fantasy-erasing".

Seriously though, couldn't you just not watch the films?

Shouldn't that be a question asked of just about everybody who has responded in the thread? Or is it just because I said I could do without nearly half the films in the franchise?

And, aside from the one time I actually did a marathon of the films, I don't watch those films. Up until I bought the UE box sets, I didn't even own DAF or TMWTGG.

The only Bond films that I really watch at all, though, are Dr. No, From Russia With Love, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, Licence to Kill, Casino Royale, and Quantum of Solace. I have some time for The Spy Who Loved Me and Octopussy, but the rest of them are pretty much films that I rarely watch.

[Safari Suit]

Shouldn't that be a question asked of just about everybody who has responded in the thread?

Maybe, but I believe you're the only one who has directly stated they still watch the films they want to erase.

I don't have the UE set so I'm not quite sure what the deal with packaging is, but if they're packaged at all like normal DVDs if I were you I would just sell the films you didn't like. But that's just me.

[tdalton]

Shouldn't that be a question asked of just about everybody who has responded in the thread?

Maybe, but I believe you're the only one who has directly stated they still watch the films they want to erase.

I don't have the UE set so I'm not quite sure what the deal with packaging is, but if they're packaged at all like normal DVDs if I were you I would just sell the films you didn't like. But that's just me.

I believe that I said that I don't watch the films outside of that one marathon of the franchise that I did. So that marks one viewing of Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, Diamonds are Forever, The Man With the Golden Gun, GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is Not Enough, and Die Another Day in the last decade, if not even longer than that.

As for selling the DVDs, I don't know anyone that would actually want those films, and I don't do business on the internet, so that's out as an avenue to sell the films. Besides, who's going to want to buy a film in a slim-case anyway.

[Safari Suit]

There's a market for practically everything, be it first or second hand, and certainly far lousier films than those. Believe me, I've sold a lot of them. But then second hand DVD shops are fairly big business in the UK, I don't know what it's like in the US.

And who wouldn't want slim line DVD cases?!? The less space these things take up the better.

[Attempting Re-entry]

Can't believe the bad rap Diamonds are Forever has received on this thread. It's such good fun, Connery's so cool, the music's amazing...the girls are fantastic...

[elizabeth]

On second thought, I would not make Thunderball disappear, simply because of Sean's awesomeness and the awesomeness of Tom Jones' intro song.

[RufusCobb]

On second thought, I would not make Thunderball disappear, simply because of Sean's awesomeness and the awesomeness of Tom Jones' intro song.

I was going to "attack" your earlier post about erasing Thunderball from the film series, (but in a gentle way, dear reader,) but as you seem to have changed your opinion somewhat, I will engage you in a more reasoned, considered, dare I say ... humble debate.

Assuming that we are actually discussing "erasing" a film from history, (as opposed to ... 'I don't like that film and don't want to watch it again') you have to understand the importance of Thunderball.

The way I see it, (and I'm prepared to be corrected,) at the time the Bond movies hit the world, the only 'repeat movies', around were things like Zorro and Sherlock Holmes. Every other movie made at the time was a "one off". The present concept of every successful movie automatically leading to a trilogy hadn't yet been dreamed up by the studio execs.

So, for the fourth movie in a series to be bigger, bolder and brasher than its predecessors and to be a success, broke the mold and started something new, a continuous film series that has lasted from the 60's until now. This is the only film series that I know of in the history of movies that done this. (And I mean continuous, not with generation gaps.)

If you delete Thunderball from existence, then I think that the series may have stalled at a trilogy and it would have been another few years before somebody had the nerve to try making another Bond movie.

True there are still Sherlock Holmes and Zorro movies today but they are sporadic and only last for a few incarnations while Bond has lasted for 22 consecutive films.

Three things I have learnt from being a fan of the Bond movies all these years:

1) If you make a Bond movie it WILL BE a success. People will ALWAYS pay to see a Bond movie. Good for them, I don't begrudge them their profit as it allows them to make another Bond movie. But to say "See ... our present choice of actor, direction, revamp, is vindicated" ... is nonsense. As they said in a movie where they built a baseball pitch, "If you build it they will come." If you make a Bond movie "They will come".

2) (My own personal opinion, by the way.) If you don't like the new Bond actor, the plot, the scriptwriters, the stunt director, the girl who brings the sandwiches ... stick around, it will all change in a few years. Bond movies are like buses, there be another one along shortly. (I'm looking at you Daniel Craig.)

3) According to this forum, some people want to erase many Bond movies. One has to ask the question, "Why are you a Bond fan if you don't like much of the stuff that has been produced?" Go watch Jason Bourne if you don't like Bond movies.

[A Kristatos]

None. Despite the fact I may dislike some (Mainly the Brosnan era) I would hate to see where the series would be today.

Although I suppose if we got rid of CR'67 it wouldn't make much difference.

And the world would probably not know about it for decades!

[O.H.M.S.S.]

None. Despite the fact I may dislike some (Mainly the Brosnan era) I would hate to see where the series would be today.

Although I suppose if we got rid of CR'67 it wouldn't make much difference.

And the world would probably not know about it for decades!

I wouldn't like to get rid of CR'67, because it has a great cast and a magnificent soundtrack.

[elizabeth]

I wouldn't like to get rid of CR'67, because it has a great cast and a magnificent soundtrack.

Plus, it was hilarious.

[Safari Suit]

Damn straight!

[DamnCoffee]

We're supposed to be Bond fans on here. I wouldn't make any vanish, not one. I respect them all in their own way. Even, the 'bad' ones. They've brought me years of entertainment, and I wouldn't even consider erasing any, and neither should any of you.

[elizabeth]

We're supposed to be Bond fans on here. I wouldn't make any vanish, not one. I respect them all in their own way. Even, the 'bad' ones. They've brought me years of entertainment, and I wouldn't even consider erasing any, and neither should any of you.

This.

[O.H.M.S.S.]

We're supposed to be Bond fans on here. I wouldn't make any vanish, not one. I respect them all in their own way. Even, the 'bad' ones. They've brought me years of entertainment, and I wouldn't even consider erasing any, and neither should any of you.

Exactly.

[Guy Haines]

I´d actually want them to have made more!

A second Lazenby film

A third Dalton film.

A fifth Brosnan film.

Vanish? None. Not even NSNA.

I completely agree with this. There are Bond films I would have changed, errors of judgement on the part of the film makers I would have put right, and there are Fleming storylines and scenes I wish had been filmed. But erase a Bond film from existance? No. Criticise a film to death, by all means - heaven knows I've had my say about one or two Bond films in these forums in the short while I've been contributing. But in the end, if you really don't like a film, just don't bother watching it.

[DLibrasnow]

None of them.
Even my least favorite Bond movie (The World is not Enough) has a pretty good Thames boat chase.

[General G.]

YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
(...but only because I'd love to see them made for the "first" time, in the proper order, starring Daniel Craig as Bond!)

However, MOONRAKER, NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN, A VIEW TO A KILL, and DIE ANOTHER DAY could vanish and I'd shed nary a tear... They're the Bond pics I watch the least.

Edited by General G., 07 March 2010 - 10:15 AM.

[Safari Suit]

And yet... you still watch them

[Lachesis]

I´d actually want them to have made more!

A second Lazenby film

A third Dalton film.

A fifth Brosnan film.

Vanish? None. Not even NSNA.

I completely agree with this. There are Bond films I would have changed, errors of judgement on the part of the film makers I would have put right, and there are Fleming storylines and scenes I wish had been filmed. But erase a Bond film from existance? No. Criticise a film to death, by all means - heaven knows I've had my say about one or two Bond films in these forums in the short while I've been contributing. But in the end, if you really don't like a film, just don't bother watching it.

Absolutely every film owes a debt to what came before, remove any at your peril and imo even the worse of Bond is still good darn entertainment if watched in the right frame of mind.

[Professor Pi]

This thread reminds me of the saying about how sex is like pizza, "When it's good, it's great, and when it's bad, it's still pretty good."