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IGN: A Report on 'Casino Royale' Script Pages


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#61 SteveKingCool

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 07:55 AM

. Just then some guy pulls up in the new DBS. Bond jumps in and gives chase leaving the owner behind all frantic and yelling, Whoa! Oh! My Car! Oh! Whoa! Oh no! My Car! Oh!  :tup:

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Dude how original

not.

#62 DLibrasnow

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 08:04 AM

. Just then some guy pulls up in the new DBS. Bond jumps in and gives chase leaving the owner behind all frantic and yelling, Whoa! Oh! My Car! Oh! Whoa! Oh no! My Car! Oh!  :tup:

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Dude how original

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Agent_Spriggan_Ominae was making a comment with a reference to A View To A Kill. If you'd turned off the negativity perhaps you would have caught on to that fact.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 09:05 AM

This really looks promising. Faithful and all, I just hope that Felix Leiter will be in it and that Mathis remains Mathis and not Massus.

This can indeed become a very good movie. I really feel bad for Pierce Brosnan for missing this that will become a great movie, damn producers!!! Well anyway I am sure Craig will really be fantastic in this movie. I have an hunch that he can bring us the best Bondian scenes in years.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 09:09 AM

[quote name='DLibrasnow' date='21 January 2006 - 02:04'][quote name='SteveKingCool' date='21 January 2006 - 02:55'][quote name='Agent_Spriggan_Ominae' date='21 January 2006 - 03:37']. Just then some guy pulls up in the new DBS. Bond jumps in and gives chase leaving the owner behind all frantic and yelling, Whoa! Oh! My Car! Oh! Whoa! Oh no! My Car! Oh!

#65 SteveKingCool

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 09:28 AM

SteveKingCool, I get the feeling you're just negative to be negative sometimes. Chill out. Feel free to dislike where CASINO ROYALE is headed, by all means, but don't feel that you have to compensate for our lack of negativity by being extra bitter.

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That's not fair. I am not negative if I accept Casino Royale is going to be just a fun action movie. I just do not accept the plot as a realistic one like has been said. It could have been better so why not question that. That's fair. Thanks.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 09:38 AM

I really like the news of Montenegro. The Mediterranean counties are so beautiful, perfect Bond locations. That was exactly what I though when I visited Dubrovnik (Croatia) this summer, and it is situated very close to Montenegro. I definately think that Bahamas act as the coast of Montenegro, Karlovy Vary will be the city of the casino and Italy will be the inland of Montenegro. Do we get an one location Bond movie again? I think it looks like it, and I would love that!

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 09:55 AM

Hey, this sounds like good news!

I'd love to know, once we've seen the film, obviously, how much of this stuff was Purvis and Wade's doing and how much Haggis has tinkered with it.

In any case, this is one of the first Casino Royale reports regarding the reboot that has actualled piqued my interest.

Now here's hoping they (eventually) get the rest of the casting right, and we could be in for a bloody good picture.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 10:03 AM

See I told ya all ! DAD was "Moonraker" for the Matrix era.
They are now going back to the FYEO approach, and the best for it.
Sod all the Matrix fans, Bond will be BACK !

#69 David Schofield

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 10:41 AM

In regards to Bond's service in the SAS, I would think the RN's SBS would be more appropriate?

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I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't an error: the SAS is far better known than the SBS and therefore IGN could have made a mistake. I'm pretty sure it'll be the SBS to enable him to be Commander Bond. I know were in a fictional world, but few Royal Navy officers would get to join the SAS, they'd be seconded instead to the RN's own branch, the SBS.

For what its worth.

BTW, doesn't CR begin to sound great?

#70 Agent Spriggan Ominae

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 10:55 AM

[quote name='DLibrasnow' date='20 January 2006 - 22:04'][quote name='SteveKingCool' date='21 January 2006 - 02:55'][quote name='Agent_Spriggan_Ominae' date='21 January 2006 - 03:37']. Just then some guy pulls up in the new DBS. Bond jumps in and gives chase leaving the owner behind all frantic and yelling, Whoa! Oh! My Car! Oh! Whoa! Oh no! My Car! Oh!

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:04 AM

pleased with what i have read sounds CR is going to a cracking romp. However the only small issue i have is that Vesper works for the Goverment(albeit The Treasury ) then turns rogue is this not a bit similar to Mis Frost in DAD and the so called twist which the producer wanted to hide from the public ? The average film goer who has not read the book may feel a bit ripped off with this .

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:10 AM

After reading this, don't think Pierce's mood's going to improve much, do you?

Or that Clive Owen's still patting himself on the back for being so clever.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:13 AM

I'm infinetly relived he's still being called Le Chiffre.

But you know what I noticed? (book spoilers ahead).

Leiter was the one who gives Bond more money after he loses to Le Chiffre, not Vesper. I wonder what role the 'American Agent' will play in the film version?

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The article says he asks Vesper for more funds. What if she refuses, implying he went too far? And there is where the american agent comes in :tup:

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:22 AM

It is still a very stupid plot.

Suicide bombers. O man, nearly all do their :tup: for free without funding.


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Not true. Although they will do it for no finacial gain they still need funds to pay for there weapons, phony ID's, passports, transportation, living expenses etc. Sometimes they do it so that there surviving families get some form of finacial compenstaion.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:24 AM

I'm infinetly relived he's still being called Le Chiffre.

But you know what I noticed? (book spoilers ahead).

Leiter was the one who gives Bond more money after he loses to Le Chiffre, not Vesper. I wonder what role the 'American Agent' will play in the film version?

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The article says he asks Vesper for more funds. What if she refuses, implying he went too far? And there is where the american agent comes in :tup:

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Good view , remember Vesper is rogue maybe she refuses Bond and as you say Felix steps in with the funds.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:49 AM

I'm infinetly relived he's still being called Le Chiffre.

But you know what I noticed? (book spoilers ahead).

Leiter was the one who gives Bond more money after he loses to Le Chiffre, not Vesper. I wonder what role the 'American Agent' will play in the film version?

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The article says he asks Vesper for more funds. What if she refuses, implying he went too far? And there is where the american agent comes in :tup:

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Good view , remember Vesper is rogue maybe she refuses Bond and as you say Felix steps in with the funds.

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Exactly. It fits well with her duplicity.

#77 1q2w3e4r

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:57 AM

If Le Cheffe doesn't owe anyone money. How does the story work?

Bond should just shoot him and be done with it. Same result. He get's no money and is dead as well.

Everyone could save 2 hours.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:05 PM

First of all, fantastic scoop. :tup:

I stopped reading at the bottom of the first page, because I didn't want to know everything. But I see here there's something about Bond being in the SAS. There is a precedent for that, in a way:

'Twice a year [Bond] disappeared for a fortnight to SAS headquarters in Herefordshire...'
LICENCE RENEWED by John Gardner, Chapter Two, 'Thoughts In A Surrey Lane'

#79 SteveKingCool

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:10 PM

It is still a very stupid plot.

Suicide bombers. O man, nearly all do their :tup: for free without funding.


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Not true. Although they will do it for no finacial gain they still need funds to pay for there weapons, phony ID's, passports, transportation, living expenses etc. Sometimes they do it so that there surviving families get some form of finacial compenstaion.

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The last one sometimes for a few thousand dollars that is most of the time never paid.

The rest is bull.....what planet are you living on? Suicide bombing is the cheapest form of terrorism except blackmail and bullying.

#80 SteveKingCool

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:15 PM

If Le Cheffe doesn't owe anyone money.  How does the story work?

Bond should just shoot him and be done with it.  Same result.  He get's no money and is dead as well.

Everyone could save 2 hours.

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That's how the story should be to make it realistic.

Bond and other double 0 agents go to the casino posing as gamblers to kidnap Le Chiffre to find out about some terrorist action coming up. A deadly game of cat and mouse. The double 0 agents die one by one so Bond goes to the casino and faces of Le Chiffre opposite the baccarat or poker table just to stare the :tup: in the eyes and intimidate him and in a way let Le Chiffre know that Bond will get him and avenge the deaths of the double 0s. The poker match should have nothing to do with the plot except as a meeting point for them to look at each other like De Niro and Pacino in Heat.

That is a better story than any Purvis, Wade, Fleming, Haggis combo.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:31 PM

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The rest is bull.....what planet are you living on? Suicide bombing is the cheapest form of terrorism except blackmail and bullying.

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OMG! Are you dumb. They need funding. When it comes to sleeper cells operating in Europe and the US (i.e those responsible for attacks like 9/11,Madrid, and London) they need funds to operate and pull off their attacks. It's a fact that the group resonsible for 9/11 were well funded by Saudi money. They would have to pay to get their operatives into these countries, pay for there phony identification(which is not cheap), pay for there living costs, pay for possible addtional training(like the flight school for the 9/11 hi-jackers), transportation(rental cars or trucks, airfare, trainfare etc), material for bombs like fertilizer(like the WTC bombers in '93). The list goes on and on.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:40 PM

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The rest is bull.....what planet are you living on? Suicide bombing is the cheapest form of terrorism except blackmail and bullying.

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OMG! Are you dumb. They need funding. When it comes to sleeper cells operating in Europe and the US (i.e those responsible for attacks like 9/11,Madrid, and London) they need funds to operate and pull off their attacks. It's a fact that the group resonsible for 9/11 were well funded by Saudi money. They would have to pay to get their operatives into these countries, pay for there phony identification(which is not cheap), pay for there living costs, pay for possible addtional training(like the flight school for the 9/11 hi-jackers), transportation(rental cars or trucks, airfare, trainfare etc), material for bombs like fertilizer(like the WTC bombers in '93). The list goes on and on.

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Not 9/11 and not WTC 93, not London or Madried, no terrorist suicide action has ever cost millions unless you believe conspiracy theory sites and Bush propaganda: all admitted that they were wrong now about how terrorists fund themselves......al qaeda network is a total mess or even a myth and suicide killers can do anything with very little money

No government is going to be so stupid to send a secret agent to play poker.

It's dumb. It can be much better. Deal with it.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:45 PM

It is still a very stupid plot.

A poker game worth more than 10 millions. Really believable.

Suicide bombers. O man, nearly all do their :tup: for free without funding.

Vesper as another woman character with the balls and attitude of a man.

It is extremely disgusting to see the producers making money out of two popular subjects as suicide bombing and Texas Hold em when they can make a realistic plot by fixing holes in the Fleming one. They only made the plot holes bigger.

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stop being so negative...jeez (all you other ppl too)....ANYWAY....it's going to be a great film...ESPECially if HAggis helped to deepen the characters and enhance the plot.(sounds like it in this report) and im pretty sure he's good at that, (crash)---so yeah...im so excited about this movie....it might even be oscar worthy..?? u never know.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:51 PM

It is still a very stupid plot.

A poker game worth more than 10 millions. Really believable.

Suicide bombers. O man, nearly all do their :tup: for free without funding.

Vesper as another woman character with the balls and attitude of a man.

It is extremely disgusting to see the producers making money out of two popular subjects as suicide bombing and Texas Hold em when they can make a realistic plot by fixing holes in the Fleming one. They only made the plot holes bigger.

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Here you go again, SteveKingCool... venting your negativeness when the Stax scoop was just wonderful, totally comforting and raising our hopes again. Judging from this article they do have a wonderful script and Bond will be Bond again.

- Is the plot stupid? Don

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 12:58 PM

[quote name='SecretAgentFan' date='21 January 2006 - 15:51'][quote name='SteveKingCool' date='21 January 2006 - 07:49']It is still a very stupid plot.

A poker game worth more than 10 millions. Really believable.

Suicide bombers. O man, nearly all do their :tup: for free without funding.

Vesper as another woman character with the balls and attitude of a man.

It is extremely disgusting to see the producers making money out of two popular subjects as suicide bombing and Texas Hold em when they can make a realistic plot by fixing holes in the Fleming one. They only made the plot holes bigger.

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Here you go again, SteveKingCool... venting your negativeness when the Stax scoop was just wonderful, totally comforting and raising our hopes again. Judging from this article they do have a wonderful script and Bond will be Bond again.

- Is the plot stupid? Don

Edited by 007_Stef, 21 January 2006 - 12:59 PM.


#86 Agent Spriggan Ominae

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 01:00 PM

Not 9/11 and not WTC 93, not London or Madried, no terrorist suicide action has ever cost millions  unless you believe conspiracy theory sites and Bush propaganda: all admitted that they were wrong now about how terrorists fund themselves......al qaeda network is a total mess or even a myth and  suicide killers can do anything with very little money

No government is going to be so stupid to send a secret agent to play poker.

It's dumb. It can be much better. Deal with it.

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First I never said it cost millions(9/11 was funded for under a million but it still cost a pretty penny). That's not conspiracy theories but fact. Terror cells need cash to operate abroad. You think they just drop to knees and say praise allah and then everything they need just materializes for them? I see their is no point arguing with you anymore. You seem to subscribe to different veiwpoint on many matters and have contradicted youself several times. You just plain don't like anything about Casino Royale and have problems with both the Flemming novel and the way the story is going. And I am dealing with it but from the looks of things, Can you?

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 01:16 PM

First of all, fantastic scoop. :tup:

I stopped reading at the bottom of the first page, because I didn't want to know everything. But I see here there's something about Bond being in the SAS. There is a precedent for that, in a way:

'Twice a year [Bond] disappeared for a fortnight to SAS headquarters in Herefordshire...'
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I think - although I may very well be wrong - that "Scorpius" also mentions this, with villains trying to assassinate Bond as he's driving back to London from one of his SAS HQ training trips.

But this is, of course, very different to saying that Bond was ever in the SAS. As far as I'm aware, this has never been stated or suggested in any of the books or films (although I haven't read all the continuation novels).

So I'll ask the obvious question:

SINCE WHEN WAS JAMES BOND EVER EX-SAS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Still, this is evidently Eon's rebooted Bond's backstory, not Fleming's Bond's backstory, Benson's Bond's backstory.... So fair enough, I suppose.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 01:19 PM

First I never said it cost millions(9/11 was funded for under a million but it still cost a pretty penny). That's not conspiracy theories but fact. Terror cells need cash to operate abroad.

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:tup:. Did you know Madrid and London and the Iraq and Palestinian crazies do all their actions by building bombs at home with little money and no organization

It's suck. Kidnap Le Chiffre, get his money, get information out of him, that should be the mission. The mission goes wrong when the double 0 agents die one by one because Vesper is telling the criminals who they are but she doesn't reveal Bond because she fancies him. Bond wants to get the job over and done with, faces Le Chiffre off in the casino not to play poker for millions with government money (dumb [censored]ing idea, if public heard government was spending money like that they would rampage) but just to look Le Chiffre in the eye just the same way Bond always faces his enemies in other movies. This is a killer plot, very realistic.....then Bond has let his identity slip by facing Le Chiffre so Vesper is kidnapped because she didn't tell the truth about him. Then Bond gets kidnapped etc and the rest

I think I will start writing spy novels better than Fleming

Goodbye and good luck with your fantasy about five millionaire terrorist teenagers blowing up trains. Terrorism doesn't cost :D to do. The cost is lives.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 01:24 PM

What if they updated it seeing as how Bond may have his first meeting with Vesper on a train so that the bombers are on board and they blow up a whole train car in an unsuccessful attempt to assassinate Bond that is not unlike the real life Madrid train bombings. Just a thought.

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Something very similar to that happens in "Live and Let Die", so if what you suggest is in the script I guess we can chalk up another "nod to Fleming"/case of Eon taking an idea from one of the novels.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 01:30 PM

First of all, fantastic scoop. :tup:

I stopped reading at the bottom of the first page, because I didn't want to know everything. But I see here there's something about Bond being in the SAS. There is a precedent for that, in a way:

'Twice a year [Bond] disappeared for a fortnight to SAS headquarters in Herefordshire...'
LICENCE RENEWED by John Gardner, Chapter Two, 'Thoughts In A Surrey Lane'

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I think - although I may very well be wrong - that "Scorpius" also mentions this, with villains trying to assassinate Bond as he's driving back to London from one of his SAS HQ training trips.

But this is, of course, very different to saying that Bond was ever in the SAS. As far as I'm aware, this has never been stated or suggested in any of the books or films (although I haven't read all the continuation novels).

So I'll ask the obvious question:

SINCE WHEN WAS JAMES BOND EVER EX-SAS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Still, this is evidently Eon's rebooted Bond's backstory, not Fleming's Bond's backstory, Benson's Bond's backstory.... So fair enough, I suppose.

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Yes, and in No Deals Mr Bond, 007 works with the SBS (Special Boat Squadron).

Does it matter? I always loved the fact that Gardner had Bond seconded to SAS, SBS and train with them. It was so right for the character. I think they will have Bond in Commander's uniform in CR.

BTW, CR sounds terrific. But then, I always had faith in Eon. Over 40 years of producing and not putting a really major foot wrong. Compare to say Batman, Superman, Jack Ryan...the road is littered with franchises that lack stamina.

Over 40 years later (and despite huge negativity on a FAN site regarding everything from casting, the Sony executives, the writers etc), the first bit of major news about the film (if true) has got us all eating out the palm of their hand. Have faith, we're going to get a modern but faithful adaptation of Casino Royale.

Who 5 years ago would ever have dreamt that?

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