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[Loomis]

As for Wilson's comments about not being able to come up with a story and there being nothing left to do, I say--nay yell--"What about the continuation novels?!" There are plenty of stuff in there that can be used. Yes, some may need to be improved and others have been pilfered a bit in some way but that hasn't stopped EON before--see YOLT and TSWLM or TSWLM and Moonraker. It can be done!

I think the problem with using the continuation novels, apart from the occasional similarities to moments in the film series that you mention, is that many are very dated (I mean, try doing "Zero Minus Ten" without doing it as a period movie), which means that they'd either need to be (by and large) '80s- or '90s-set (and while I acknowledge that there's demand for "period Bond" onscreen, where's any call for that period to be just 20 years or so ago?), or altered to the point where they might just as well have not bothered paying for the film rights in the first place.

And, frankly, are the continuation novels a collection of excellent, clever and surprising plots with huge cinematic potential, or are they a collection of join-the-dots generic Bond outings of writing quality ranging from pretty darn good to pisspoor? Granted, there are some ideas in them that haven't been explored in the films (e.g. Blofeld, Jr., the kidnapping of Moneypenny), but, bluntly, I think they seemed barrel-scraping even at the time.

The most obvious choice from a commercial point of view (after the success of the Harry Potter films and STORMBREAKER) would be the Higson series, but these '30s- and '40s-set adventures would sit oddly next to the Craig timeline, and in any case by the time they were ready to adapt them for the screen it seems likely that the Young Bond (mini-)boom will have played itself out.

So I cling to my view that the screen Bond is all but dead. Still a handful of flicks to go before the end, though.

[Santa]

Well, I think you haven't named him before: David Tennant

I know it's Doctor Who and all that, but he's 6'1'' (for those who like to say they have a tall Bond), he is known worldwide and he will be 41 if Craig leaves the role in 2012, but he looks younger (I bet he'll do the 50th Anniversary movie, and then leave).

I think I may as well suggest Jarvis Cocker if that's the way things are going.

[Thunderfinger]

Absolutely.
Not!!!!!!!

[zencat]

Hugh Jackman.

[Quest]

If Craig does 3, and the audience embraces the new look of Bond, then by 2010 - the casting call for Bond could be way different, as now we'd be looking for Craig types.

Or you could look it as EON might want to shift up yet again, and go back to the more typical-looking 007.

Although once this major change has taken place, and is accepted, does anyone think they'd ever go back?

It would certainly make the casting of JB easier if they stick with it, as 007 would not look like a movie star any longer, but a more average looking bloke with muscles. I'd imagine there'd be more of these actors around.

As for who, we'll meet here in 2010 and bounce names around

[K1Bond007]

What if they offer him more? You said Bond is with you forever, so why not make the most of it and do it at least "one more time."

Yes, that is a fair point. But he is so unlike Connery, Moore and Brosnan, in that he really hates the media, and film reviewers. He has always said that in all the interviews I have seen (and that is not many as he doesn't like them).

Craig is different, big deal. One of the reasons Connery quit the ing role after You Only Live Twice was because of the media. Remember the bathroom incident? Yeah.. that was the straw.

[DaveBond21]

Craig will have his "bathroom incident" though. And he will have it sooner rather than later.

[Harmsway]

And, frankly, are the continuation novels a collection of excellent, clever and surprising plots with huge cinematic potential, or are they a collection of join-the-dots generic Bond outings of writing quality ranging from pretty darn good to pisspoor?

Depends on the novel. A number of them have some fairly cool ideas that could be turned into some interesting film adventures. For example, NOBODY LIVES FOREVER (Bond being the target of a headhunt), ICEBREAKER (Bond on a team mission), DOUBLESHOT (Bond is forced to question his sanity), etc. All of those I think hold some really intriguing cinematic potential because they really break the typical formula.

I do think that at this point it's easier to do different entries with a darker, grittier sense. I can see that direction continuing beyond Craig with a new actor and it still feeling pretty fresh (but then again, maybe not - we'll only know what would feel right once the Craig era draws to a close).

So I cling to my view that the screen Bond is all but dead. Still a handful of flicks to go before the end, though.

Screen Bond will die eventually. We all know it. I do tend to think that Bond will make it past the Craig era, though.

[ShySmile]

The Australian take on MACBETH (Melbourne underworld style) arrives soon... I'm quite sure it'll display plenty of future Bond potential amongst the actors involved including Mac himself, Sam Worthington.

[Agent 76]

Hugh Jackman wouldn't be bad I guess.

[JimmyBond]

Hugh Jackman wouldn't be bad I guess.

No, he wouldnt. But his shipt has sailed, he's as old as Craig is. What happens if Craig sticks around for 6 or seven films? That'll put Craig at 50 (or thereabouts) when he steps down. Would you really want a 50 year old Jackman taking over?

[Double-Oh Agent]

Hugh Jackman wouldn't be bad I guess.

No, he wouldnt. But his shipt has sailed, he's as old as Craig is. What happens if Craig sticks around for 6 or seven films? That'll put Craig at 50 (or thereabouts) when he steps down. Would you really want a 50 year old Jackman taking over?

No, I wouldn't want a 50-year-old Jackman, but I don't see that happening. I don't think Daniel Craig will do more than four Bond films--and very possibly only three. I don't think he is in it for the long haul. I think he'll probably get tired of the constant press badgering and some fan bashing and walk away.

If Craig only did three, then Hugh Jackman, who is more than seven months younger, would only be 46 in 2014 (the likely date for Bond 24) and that would be at the outer limit of his acceptability for the role. I think he would be great and I would still want him for the part (he was my #1 choice this last time too). However, if Craig did four films, then Jackman would be out of the running and someone else would have to fill the vacancy.

Nevertheless, I still hold out a glimmer of hope (however unrealistic) for Hugh Jackman to one day be James Bond 007.

[Daniel Craig the cool 007]

Dont know who will follow coz thats a tough one speculating over somebody that may not even know himself to this day that he will be chosen in say 2012,probably...Maybe it will be Daniel again(hope so)if the audience/producers and himself want him to stay on board for possibly 1 or two more bond flicks.But whoever takes the role must be a good match to Daniel coz he will have huge shoes to fill..Dont know towards what kind of movie we are heading for bond 24, but i sy it will depend on the times(like for instance, casino royale is gritty and violent coz the world is like that now).It shall depend on the mood of time prevailing and which actor, the producers deems fit to choose...I want Jude law(and no he isnt too small or thin)coz the future bond will have to be refined coming more in the mood of other passed Bond i.e from Dr No to Die Another Day and becoming the 007 we know..

Dont know who will follow coz thats a tough one speculating over somebody that may not even know himself to this day that he will be chosen in say 2012,probably...Maybe it will be Daniel again(hope so)if the audience/producers and himself want him to stay on board for possibly 1 or two more bond flicks.But whoever takes the role must be a good match to Daniel coz he will have huge shoes to fill..Dont know towards what kind of movie we are heading for bond 24, but i sy it will depend on the times(like for instance, casino royale is gritty and violent coz the world is like that now).It shall depend on the mood of time prevailing and which actor, the producers deems fit to choose...I want Jude law(and no he isnt too small or thin)coz the future bond will have to be refined coming more in the mood of other passed Bond i.e from Dr No to Die Another Day and becoming the 007 we know..

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[Jericho_One]

Jude Law would never be cast as Bond. Not in a million years.

[Thunderfinger]

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI

[Andrew]

What do you all think of Wentworth Miller? He was born in the U.K, although he was raised in the United States which I guess makes him essentially American and a "no no".

He does have that tough edge and sense of cool, though.

[dinovelvet]

What do you all think of Wentworth Miller? He was born in the U.K, although he was raised in the United States which I guess makes him essentially American and a "no no".

He does have that tough edge and sense of cool, though.

I wouldn't mind him as Bond, I like his performance on Prison Break. He qualifies as being "British" but also qualifies as being about eight other things too :

"He is of African, Jamaican, English, and German descent on his father's side, and of Russian, French, Dutch, Syrian and Lebanese descent on his mother's side."

So anyway he is 34 now, so if Craig does three and out, he'll be around 40 when the role is up for grabs. Could happen, he will obviously have that "built his reputation on tv" going for him that Rog and Pierce had.

Anyhoo, I'm still thinking Alex O'Lachlan has got some potential, I saw his movie Oyster Farmer on cable and he was pretty good in it; he is going to be on the new season of The Shield which is one of my favorite shows...we'll be able to see him in an 'action' context

[Agent 76]

Ioan Gruffudd

[Killmaster]

casino royale ... 2006 -- bond 22 ... 2008 -- bond 23 ... 2010 -- if david craig keeps to his three-picture comment, then bond #7 will debut in 2012 and that's only FOUR years until the search could be on again!!

but as to how the next actor's films will be written, the films tend to reflect not only the actor who prtrays bond, but the times in which they are made. who knows ... by then, we may be back to a more light-hearted period for bond a la roger moore. but one way or the other, i hope we're done with the back-to-basics idea.

now that we've got a blond bond, maybe we should go even blonder ... paul bettany?

[Thunderfinger]

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Julian McMahon has now dyed his hair blond, in order to increase his chances of becoming James Bond no 7

[Satorious]

Having just watched the first installment of the new Spooks (Series 5) tonight on UK TV, it reminds me how cool Rupert Penry-Jones comes across (if EON wanted another fair-haired candidate, which they probably won't). In his favour, he'll be a bit older by then, and he's certainly got the acting chops/charisma.

The other more obvious mainstream candidate I would suggest is Christian Bale (provided he's done with Batman). EON may not like the fact that both are associated with other roles, despite the fact that both Bale and Penry-Jones have expressed an interest in playing Bond.

Of course, a lot can happen in a short time, and other lesser known candidates will emerge. I just hope we get a more convincing shortlist than many of the "Brosnan-replacements".

[Killmaster]

i think we can seriously forget a few actors simply because they will be too identified with other large budget "blockbuster" films ... christian bale as batman ... hugh jackman as wolverine from the x-men ... and ioan griffudd as mister fantastic from the fantastic four.

(even though bale would make a terrific bond!)

[AgentPB]

What do you all think of Wentworth Miller? He was born in the U.K, although he was raised in the United States which I guess makes him essentially American and a "no no".

He does have that tough edge and sense of cool, though.

Yeah he would be good! but what would he look like with hair? And sorry if this has already been addresed by why no Clive Owen? I don't know how old he is (Younger the Craig I would assume) but he's my pick. If he never gets to be bond i think i would become extremely sad. Eric Bana would be a good one too! And he has the ever so crucial Munich connection

[Cody]

Owen is 4 years older than Craig. If he were to be Bond after Craig's three, the youngest he would be for his first Bond would be 47, turning 48 during filming. That's if they can stick with the two year schedule and Bond 24 is made in 2012.

[Daniel Craig the cool 007]

No it wii surely be a new actor just emerging that is not too famous and known from us....That actor may not have done serious movies up until now or maybe he is not in showbizness now....I think that Jackman,law,mcgregor et al will never end up in the Bond tux as they are too famous and wont jeopardize their career by playing 007..Clive owen will never be Bond!Read up there in that post that one of who you doesnt think that 007 will forever be on the bigscreen,why is that mr Harmsway?and how many of you share that view that bond will not be forever?

[stamper]

From many proposals in this thread, it appears any tall guy with a model like face and who happened to wear a costume or a tux in a past movie or TV series, will do.
I say cast Macaulay Caulkin, he is experienced with Stardom trappings, and with dark hair he will be perfect as Bond, I saw him with a tux once, he got everything the roles requires.

My 2nd choice would be Hayden Christensen, he wears a costume in one movie ! And he is young and tall !

My third : let's cast Hugh Grant, he is suave and sophisticated, especially with his choice of hookers, like Bond should be.

[Santa]

I once pointed that out and got my bollocks paddled with a carpet beater.

[Thunderfinger]

NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS
HERE

[jake speed]

Alex O'Lachlan must have a good shout now that he's joined 'The Shield'. I think he'll boost his profile a lot while Craig is Bond whereas Henry Cavill is simply known for the parts he missed out on and is still waiting for a significant 'breakthrough' role. Both though have a great chance in the long run.

Edited by jake speed, 21 September 2006 - 07:00 PM.

[dinovelvet]

Alex O'Lachlan must have a good shout now that he's joined 'The Shield'. I think he'll boost his profile a lot while Craig is Bond whereas Henry Cavill is simply known for the parts he missed out on and is still waiting for a significant 'breakthrough' role. Both though have a great chance in the long run.

Yes I wouldn't be surprised to see both their names crop up when the new search begins in, say, 2012, assuming neither of them have become Russell Crowe-like "too big for Bond" megastars. Both of them are doing shows for US cable - Alex is on The Shield like you said, and Henry is doing The Tudors for Showtime so their profiles will be going up a bit in the next few months...