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[zencat]

This might not technically be a SPOILER, but seeing as it is a MAJOR plot element (the first CR plot element yet to be revealed), we decided to err on the side of caution. So don't go if you don't wanna know. And if you do go, remember where you read it first.

SPOILER: 'Royale' Plot Element Revealed

"The game is..."

[tdalton]

More bad news on the CR front.

Edited by tdalton, 26 September 2005 - 03:54 PM.

[inSPECTRE]

I am impressed being the giant Poker fan I am

I cannot wait to see how this movie turns out..

[Mister Asterix]

Very important:

Do not talk about this spoiler outside of this thread. Thank you.

[zencat]

I know some fans will freak at this news, but I think this is a change for the better. This news excites me.

[Gabe Vieira]

Big mistake. Should have kept the original idea. They are just trying to wrangle in new fans because [what they are replacing it with] is so big right now.

Phase one of destroying what should be a good film: Activated

[The Dove]

Poker???!!! What the ??!! Why don't we just put Bond in a ten-gallon cowboy hat and some Wrangler jeans?!!! I hope to god, this isn't true!!!

[trumanlodge89]

something ive been expecting for long time.

[tdalton]

Poker???!!! What the ??!! Why don't we just put Bond in a ten-gallon cowboy hat and some Wrangler jeans?!!! I hope to god, this isn't true!!! 

That's exactly my feeling on this development. I can't stand watching this stuff on TV, and I can guarantee that I won't enjoy watching James Bond play it either.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Sigh....well I guess we had to have all seen this coming...



Though I think this points something of a dent in the young Bond playing cards in the 80s theory...obviously they could play poker but it's my understanding that Texas Hold Em wasn't really popular until recently (or at least until a few years ago). Nothing like a good pop culture reference to help the young'ns relate. (I'm 18, I'm obviously really old. I know that none of my friends knew what baccarat was until I explained it though.)

I like baccarat myself...but I guess Hold Em makes for an interesting scene - certainly a longer one. I don't really see Bond playing a game called Texas Hold Em but I guess it is a mission...This isn't really good or bad for me, just more or less expected.

All the same, good to have some news.

Nice job, CBn!

Edited by zencat, 26 September 2005 - 04:05 PM.

[clublos]

I love poker, and I'm not impressed. EON's intentions are so obvious.

[spynovelfan]

Grrrr. I guess this means that the Bahamas/Prague/South Africa or wherever will definitely not be standing in France. I dunno - baccarat seems a lot classier and Bond-like to me, even in 2005, even for young 'uns.

Guess it's not going to be as faithful as I'd hoped.

[ComicalJames]

This is great news as I actually know how to play Poker!

[The Dove]

Yes, thanks for the insider info, Zencat!! Good job!

Wow, I'm still trying to get used to Bond at a card game where we won't hear the expressions "Banco suivi" or "Sept a la banc!" Now it'll probably be " Your bluffing!!" or " I fold!!" lol

[DLibrasnow]

This is horrible news. I see it as pandering to all the popcorn chomping, beer swilling masses.

Why don't we have Bond wearing a baseball cap, driving a pick-up truck and speaking with a Texas drawl while we are at it.

[Turn]

Yet another example of EON's pandering to that all-important younger audience. I can watch people play Texas Hold Em on television at any given time or at any Eagles club or VFW hall. Why would I want to see it on the big screen being played by the world's greatest secret agent, who has made his name at more exotic games?

I expected more. This is seriously disappointing. The series is once again a follower instead of a trendsetter.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Yes, thanks for the insider info, Zencat!! Good job!

Wow, I'm still trying to get used to Bond at a card game where we won't hear the expressions "Banco suivi" or "Sept a la banc!" Now it'll probably be " Your bluffing!!" or " I fold!!" lol

Yeah that makes me mad...I always speak French when I play cards since I read CR....now it'll seem so unsophisticated.

[tdalton]

Yet another example of EON's pandering to that all-important younger audience. I can watch people play Texas Hold Em on television at any given time or at any Eagles club or VFW hall. Why would I want to see it on the big screen being played by the world's greatest secret agent, who has made his name at more exotic games?

I expected more. This is seriously disappointing. The series is once again a follower instead of a trendsetter.

The most disappointing news ever, except for the possible return of Pierce Brosnan. I seriously don't want to pay $8.50 to watch two things that don't interest me at all: Pierce Brosnan playing Bond and Poker.

[hcmv007]

It's going to be a yamnfest folks. Always count on Purvis and Wade to screw up Bond. So, who's up for a seperate bond franchise now?

[Spoon]

Why is everyone giving away the spoiler here? Not much point marking it as a spoiler then, is it?

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I have no problem with this. I know people will figure they're just doing it because poker is so popular right now, but, the decision does make sense. If we're actually going to see the details of the play, more people know the poker rules than the baccarat rules, making it easier to follow. Plus poker takes much more skill than baccarat, which, let's face it, is basically glorified blackjack. It always bugged me that "Bond's game" depended so much more on luck than skill. And, more strategy means more potential drama.

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In any event, nice to have some news that has more validity than random people randomly speculating on random websites! Thanks, zencat.

Edited by Spoon, 26 September 2005 - 04:14 PM.

[Turn]

This is great news as I actually know how to play Poker!

A lot of us do. A lot of us also know how to play basketball or baseball. I don't want to see James Bond doing that. I want him doing something exotic or playing an exotic game, not something I can do or Ben Affleck or the guy who plays Screech can do on television.

[doublenoughtspy]

This just in...Bond gets his secret instructions on an iPod.

While trying to thwart a nefarious scheme of altering the outcome of a reality show.

I'm reminded of Godzilla fandom who refer to the American Godzilla film as Gino (Godzilla In Name Only).

I guess I'll have to start referring to CR 2006 as CRino. Crino Royale if you will.

[TaoMike]

I know some fans will freak at this news, but I think this is a change for the better. This news excits me.

Zencat, why do you think this is a change for the better? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just curious as to why you think so... Is it because baccarat is a little esoteric for the average moviegoer?

Personally, I'm not sure how to feel about this. In the context of the story, it could work as well -- or better -- than baccarat. On the other hand, poker doesn't quite have the glamour and style that baccarat does. And, as other posters have implied, this does seem like an obvious attempt to cash in on the (already fading) poker craze.

[zencat]

[quote name='Spoon' date='26 September 2005 - 09:10']Why is everyone giving away the spoiler here?

[tdalton]

Why don't they just move the film to America, hire George Clooney to play Bond, and then have Tommy Lee Jones play Le Chiffre? That would fit more into the Poker scene than James Bond would.

[K1Bond007]

Pandering to the popularity of poker on TV.

Kinda sad. Learning the basics of baccarat and then reading about Bond playing against people was one of the strongest aspects of Casino Royale.

Oh well. It's no surprise...

[SecretAgentFan]

Great news and the right decision! If the outcome of this game is important for the plot, the mass audience has to be able to follow the game. Baccarat is too complicated. Simple as that. Stop whining, guys. Read the novel if you don

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]I don

[Turn]

And, as other posters have implied, this does seem like an obvious attempt to cash in on the (already fading) poker craze.

I wonder how many people will refer to it as "that new poker movie" the way many referred to DAD as "the new Halle Berry movie?"

[tdalton]

[quote name='SecretAgentFan' date='26 September 2005 - 12:16']Stop whining, guys. Read the novel if you don