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[tdalton]

I think he'll find a good home in New York, even with the franchise being a dysfunctional one (at best). Rex Ryan seems to really want him there, as does Tony Sparano. I think he thinks he'll find a good home there, as he did pick the Jets over the Jaguars (Denver apparently gave him a choice of the two, and he did tell Elway at the beginning of the process that he preferred Jacksonville, so something during the last two days changed his mind). I think that the talk from the players who said that they didn't want him was, at least in the case of most of them anyway, was more a means through which to say that they were backing up Mark Sanchez. At the time those tweets went out, the Jets were described as a longshot to land Tebow, so I think the players (most of them, anyway, as there's still a more than a few morons on the 53 man roster) might have taken that as a chance to support Sanchez. At least I hope that's the case, anyway.

I doubt the Jets will be very good this year, anyway. We're probably looking at 6-10 or 7-9 with maybe an outside chance to make the playoffs if they get lucky in a couple of those games and eek out a win or two more than what I'd expect from them. So my feeling is, if the season's going to be one of the more mediocre ones in recent seasons, and all signs point to it being that, why not at least make it entertaining? I've been through the 4-12 seasons where the Jets weren't controversial, weren't entertaining, they were just bad. If you're going to be mediocre or bad, why not at least entertain the fans for the 16 weeks of the season along the way?

[hcmv007]

Glad ya'll got Tebow now tdalton-although there is a minor hold up that is going to be ironed out today & he will be officially introduced on Monday. Having watched him in person twice-he's a winner. I haven't seen anyone who can will a team to win like he can. I also believe he'll be a positive presence in the locker room-which is something the Jets need IMO.

The Packers sign former Colts C Jeff Saturday to a contract. Good move as Indy looks to be a wasteland right now.

[hcmv007]

Saints GM Mickey Loomis & HC Sean Payton attending the owner's meeting this week. Both expected to have press conferences tomorrow.

[hcmv007]

There was a rumor going around that Bill Parcells would be the Saints interim coach for this season. This was posted by someone claiming to be ESPN's Adam Schefter but it was false.


Please make this happen, Benson.

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

A desperate move by the Saints. But it might work since Bill Parcells is used to leaving teams after a year or two.

[hcmv007]

Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis & Joe Vitt appealing NFL suspensions

[hcmv007]

Today Nike unveiled new uniforms for all 32 teams. At least they aren't like Oregon's uniforms thank God. Not too wild about the Saints all black pants & jersey's, be nice to have gold & white pants to go with them.

[The Dove]

Relieved that nothing drastic was changed about the Broncos new unis....Think I'm actually gonna plonk down the money for a #18 Manning jersey (replica of course)..we are going back to the Orange ones full time for home games. However, the Seattle Seahawks' redesigned unis look HIDEOUS in my opinion..

[tdalton]

I'm not a fan of the new jerseys. I took a look at a picture of the new Jets jersey, and something just looks off about it. I can't put my finger on it, but something about it just doesn't look right. Also, while I realize that the material Nike has made the jerseys out of is more advanced and more expensive, the material just looks cheap for some reason. I'm not a fan of these at all, but the NFL has to change things up every few years if they want to keep people shelling out their hard earned money for this overpriced stuff.

[The Dove]

http://www.nfl.com/n...?module=HP11_cp

Well this tears it...based upon this latest audio evidence of Gregg Williams urging his players to actually target injured 49ers players the night before the playoff game between San Francisco and New Orleans, I would definitely think his 'indefinite suspension' should be turned into a LIFETIME BAN...this is just sickening!

[tdalton]

I heard a small snippet of the audio on ESPN earlier today, and it made me sick to my stomach. I said it back when Goodell failed to ban Williams when he first issued the discipline, the discipline process for the NFL is a joke. There was never any doubt that the NFL should have banned Williams the first go round. The fact that he wasn't is an absolute joke.

And before I get accused of being a Saints basher, I'd say the same thing if this were the New York Jets. There is no place for any of this nonsense in football.

Edited by tdalton, 06 April 2012 - 01:34 AM.

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

http://www.grantland...ne-nfl-violence

Bill Simmons may be polarizing to some readers, but he has an interesting take on this drama.

[hcmv007]

NFL upholds suspensions on Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton & Joe Witt

The Greg Williams audio release didn't help & Sean Gleeson (the former Saints player who was a subject of the documentary that had the Williams audio) has stated he felt betrayed by the film maker & has criticized the release.

Not condoning Williams, but you must be naive if NFL coaches before games don't tell players to hit players who have injury issues. We all know this is a collision sport & it is win at all costs (In the NFL). Granted I don't think you should hit a guy in the head or at his knees-I want to hit them cleanly & legally. But the language (other than where to hit, paying $) is what you hear in the locker room before a NFL game.

[The Dove]

Bill Parcells gives a big, fat..NO to being an interim coach for the Saints..Meanwhile, it is being reported that Joe Vitt is gonna be the Saints interim..coach...ummm..wait..he, himself is gonna be suspended for 8 games once the pre-season is done...WTF are the Saints doing??

[hcmv007]

If the Saints make Joe Vitt the interim coach I will not be surprised. Why? B/c the Saints have historically made head scratching front office decisions (Ricky Williams draft day trade). If Vitt is the guy this kills any chance of NO making the postseason. Common sense says they need 1 guy, 1 voice to guide this team this season. But this is the Saints we are talking about here.

[The Dove]

Joe Vitt has indeed been hired as interim..and some other guy has been hire as interim-interim while Vitt is supended for the first 6 games of the regular season... Looks like you are correct hcmv, it's gonna be a LONG year for the Saints...Hopefully, Tom Benson buying the New Orleans Hornets might make you feel better...At least he learned from Commish. David Stern botching that Chris Paul trade..

[hcmv007]

Was glad that Benson bought the Hornets-very good to have them stay here.

Very safe to say the Saints will have a top 8 pick next year. Having 2 different Interim HC's is never good. Bring back the Aints!

Coming soon-I know its been a few years but I am going to do a mock draft sometime this wknd. I think we all know who the 1st 2 picks are (Luck, RG3)

Was glad that Benson bought the Hornets-very good to have them stay here.

Very safe to say the Saints will have a top 8 pick next year. Having 2 different Interim HC's is never good. Bring back the Aints!

Coming soon-I know its been a few years but I am going to do a mock draft sometime this wknd. I think we all know who the 1st 2 picks are (Luck, RG3)

[hcmv007]

Mock Draft to come next week



Must learn to read a calendar by then.

[hcmv007]

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Tech issues. Aarrgghh!

[hcmv007]

The entire NFL schedule for 2012 is out; check out nfl.com for the details!

[tdalton]

You wouldn't happen to have a link to it, would you? I just went to NFL.com and it said that the schedule would be released at the top of the hour.


EDIT: Full schedule up on NFL.com


I've got to say, I'm loving the Jets schedule for this season, although my one reservation with it is that it looks as though it's clearly designed to put pressure on the Jets to start Tim Tebow at QB at some point during the middle of the season. The first five games are against teams with (or at least should have) excellent defenses: vs. Buffalo, @ Pittsburgh, @ Miami, vs. San Francisco, vs. Houston). By the time the Jets make their way through that, assuming that Mark Sanchez doesn't become the second coming of Peyton Manning, the crowd will be in an absolute frenzy for Tim Tebow to take over as I can't imagnie Sanchez performs well enough to keep the Tebow supporters at bay.

The second half of the schedule is tailor-made for Tim Tebow to successfully lead the Jets to the playoffs: after their Week 9 bye, where you'd expect a switch to Tebow if one is to be made, the Jets have: @ Seattle, @ St. Louis, Thanksgiving night vs. New England, vs. Arizona, @ Jacksonville, @ Tennessee, vs. San Diego, and @ Buffalo. That's a pretty easy home stretch (minus New England, of course), so one has to wonder if this was done with the intention of once again shining the spotlight on Tim Tebow for another improbable run to the playoffs.

[The Dove]

Broncos get 5..count 'em FIVE prime time games this season... Steelers, Falcons, Chargers, Saints and Raiders...I am stoked for the season to begin!1 By the way, did you guys get a look at the Steelers' throwback uniforms...

http://www.nfl.com/n..._content_stream One word comes to mind: REVOLTING!! Even those mustard yellow and brown throwbacks the Denver Broncos wore back during the Josh McDumbass era looked better..LOL..

[tdalton]

http://www.nfl.com/n..._content_stream One word comes to mind: REVOLTING!! Even those mustard yellow and brown throwbacks the Denver Broncos wore back during the Josh McDumbass era looked better..LOL..

Those definitely do make the Broncos throwbacks you were talking about look good by comparison. I'd rather see the Jets back in those hideous Titans uniforms again than have to look at those eyesores. What I want to know is, why can't these teams simply come up with two uniforms (home and away) and stick with those? With that said, I'm dreading what the Jets alternative jersey will look like. Hopefully they'll be similar to those fake Nike uniform designs that were floating around, with a black/green color scheme with the 1980s Jets logo on a black helmet. I think Tebow would look great in that when he takes over the starting job in Week 10.

[hcmv007]

Working on Mock Draft tonight, here are the teams that do not have a 1st rd pick: Falcons, Saints, & the Raiders. I will project their picks as well.



Here's a thought-why don't the Steelers use the 1970's uniforms as their throwbacks? (Don't tell me their uniforms haven't changed since then, that's bull and you know it!)

[bill007]

Broncos screwed up with taking McDaniels, but had a gem with the Tebow selection. Elway selected Manning, but screwed up letting Tebow go.

I lived in Denver when Elway came to town. Instant fan, Now, I'm not so sure I agree with his business decisions.

Should have kept Tebow to tutor under Manning.

[hcmv007]

Here is my Mock Draft-special thanks for sevices by espn.com, foxsports.com, nfl.com, and a few other websites. I used take a take the best guy available approach going into this, and you might motice the absence of a couple of players who project as 1st Rounders by some analysts are not here. I will give my explanations at the end. I have no trade scenarios so here goes:







1(1) Colts-Andrew Luck, QB Stanford
2(2) Redskins (From Rams)-Robert Griffen III, QB Baylor
3(3) Vikings-Matt Kalil, T USC
4(4) Browns-Trent Richardson, RB Alabama
5(5) Buccaneers-Morris Claiborne, CB LSU
6(6) Rams (From Redskins)-Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma St
7(7) Jaguars-Michael Floyd, WR Notre Dame
8(8) Dolphins-Ryan Tannehill, QB Texas A&M
9(9) Panthers-Quinton Coples, DE North Carolina
10(10) Bills-Riley Reiff, T Iowa
11(11) Chiefs-Melvin Ingraham, LB South Carolina
12(12) Seahawks-Michael Brockers, DT LSU
13(13) Cardinals-Luke Kuechly, LB Boston College
14(14) Cowboys-Dre Kirkpatrick, CB Alabama
15(15) Eagles-Mark Barron, S Alabama
16(16) Jets-Courtney Upshaw, LB Alabama
17(17) Bengals (From Raiders)-David DeCastro, G Stanford
18(18) Chargers-Fletcher Cox, DT Mississippi St
19(19) Bears-Janoris Jenkins, CB North Alabama
20(20) Titans-Cordy Glenn, OL Georgia
21(21) Bengals-Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina
22(22) Browns (From Falcons)-Stephen Hill, WR Georgia Tech
23(23) Lions-Whitney Mercilus, DE Illinois
24(24) Steelers-Don’t’a Hightower, LB Alabama
25(25) Broncos-Alshon Jeffery, WR South Carolina
26(26) Texans-Andre Branch, DE Clemson
27(27) Patriots (From Saints)-Devon Still, DT Penn St
28(28) Packers-Jonathan Martin, T Stanford
29(29) Ravens-Nick Perry, DE USC
30(30) 49ers-Jerel Worthy, DT Michigan St
31(31) Patriots-Rueben Randle, WR LSU
32(32) Giants-Doug Martin, RB Boise St



Falcons 1^st pick-Rd 2, 55^th overall-Bruce Irvin, LB/DE West Virginia
Raiders 1^st pick-Rd 3, 95^th overall-Brandon Taylor, S LSU
Saints 1^st pick-Rd 3 89^th overall-Sean Spence, LB Miami



A popular name has been Dontari Poe the DT from Memphis, who a lot of experts have been talking about. While an excellent physical presence, I have to doubt his desire to play every down-but not when he chooses to play hard. I just don't see him as a 1st Round Pick. Some on this draft have been labelled lower, but going higher, as happens every year, (Jeffery from Carolina, Randle from LSU) sometimes do become 1st Round Picks. I evaluated some teams the best way I could (need vs best player available), but if I knew something a team needed desperately then I overruled the best player available and went with the need.

[hcmv007]

Another day; another Saints scandal.

Saints GM Mickey Loomis allegedly eavesdropped on opposing coaches playcalling from 2002-2004. While he is free from any legal issues he is still open to civil & action from the NFL.

How bad was Aaron Brooks?! Jeez...

[The Dove]

And the New York Jets today announced that they plan to use Tim Tebow.....ON SPECIAL TEAMS AS A PUNT PROTECTOR!! I'm sorry, tdalton and killkenny..I just gotta LMAO at this...I just hope he doesn't get injured on the first punt of the season..I would suspect the Jets faithful wouldn't appreciate it at all..

http://www.nfl.com/n..._headline_stack

Edited by The Dove, 24 April 2012 - 03:14 PM.

[hcmv007]

Dove-I think other teams have to make sure Tebow doesn't knock their out! Dude is hardcore (as you well know ) & this gives the Jets an excellent fake punt situations-if they actually punt on 4th & short they deserve to lose.

48 hrs till the draft! I will be on twitter the 1st 2 nights so please follow me there to get my instant views on the picks!

[tdalton]

And the New York Jets today announced that they plan to use Tim Tebow.....ON SPECIAL TEAMS AS A PUNT PROTECTOR!! I'm sorry, tdalton and killkenny..I just gotta LMAO at this...I just hope he doesn't get injured on the first punt of the season..I would suspect the Jets faithful wouldn't appreciate it at all..

http://www.nfl.com/n..._headline_stack

I think that this is a brilliant move by the Jets. It'll be hard for an opposing team to go into an all-out block formation against their punt team, as Tebow would always be a threat to step in front of the snap and lob a pass to the tight end on a seam route. It also gives them the opportunity to go for fourth and short situations out of the punt formation.

I've also heard some rumors that they might use Tebow as a running back in the traditional offense, with Sanchez under center, as well. Given that I think that most Jets fans consider Greg McElroy to be the true #2 QB (and I think most Jets fans are fairly comfortable with the idea of him getting his chance should Sanchez and/or Tebow get injured or not perform well), I think the Jets should use Tebow in whatever manner they want away from the QB position. The reason that I think this all will work is that Rex Ryan and Tony Sparano are very, very committed to the idea of running the ball, something I don't think that the Broncos and the combo of Elway and John Fox ever really were, even when it was working well for them. Elway wants to have a throwing offense, which is understandable since that's what Elway knows, but Ryan, I think, can help pave a rejuvenation of the ground attack with a weapon like Tebow that the NFL doesn't see come along all that often. As critical as I was of Tebow last year, I've got to admit, I'm pumped for this season, and can't wait to see what kind of crazy things Rex and Sparano come up with for this new ground game.