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[tdalton]

Now this is getting ridiculous ...We're not talking 12 year old here.  I don't think a 22 year old would be playing go-fish. The only time I run across 22 year playing cards is when I'm on the set... and we usually play poker, Texas hold 'em, speed, or bull .

I think we're just making fun of it because a Bond in his early 20s is something that virtually nobody wants to see. The "Go Fish" thing was just an exaggeration on my part to show my dislike for the idea.

[KB 007]

Now this is getting ridiculous ...We're not talking 12 year old here.  I don't think a 22 year old would be playing go-fish. The only time I run across 22 year playing cards is when I'm on the set... and we usually play poker, Texas hold 'em, speed, or bull .

Actually, Frankie Muniz is about 20 years old, not 12. So Casino Royale, if this rumor is true, would actually be almost exactly like Agent Cody Banks.

[Taro Todoroki]

Ummm.....two Bonds in one movie? How original. Wait a minute....it's starting to add up. Eon is remaking the 1967 version of Casino Royale! Now they only need one more Bond. We can have a 22 year old Bond, a 30 something Bond and Pierce all in the same movie! MGW said anything is possible.

Edited by Taro Todoroki, 25 May 2005 - 12:34 AM.

[Loyal Terrior]

Ugh. Bad news imo.

Still, interesting to hear and I hope we hear more soon. Good work CBn.

[Mazinkaiser]

I don't mind younger, but come on. 22 is too young in my opinion.

[tdalton]

When I was thinking about what they meant by younger, I had in mind someone around 32-35, not someone in their early to mid 20s. If they go with someone in their 20s, unless he's very mature looking, then it would be totally unacceptable.

[Seannery]

Lets hope this young Bond thing is ONLY a possibility. I think it is since they have Dench back and Cbn has already said they have looked at Dougray Scott and Julian McMahon while also we have Daniel Craig saying he has had talks. It seems Eon is looking at all types of Bonds of all types of ages which is probably wise. Maybe it is a young Bond in pre-titles and then the regular Bond in the bulk of the film.

Which is funny since the infamous Pierce-B said quite a while ago that there will be 2 Bonds with a young Bond doing the Casino Royale thing in an elongated pre-title sequence and then the mature Bond the rest of the way. Could this actually happen? Who knows but it is possible.

[tdalton]

Which is funny since the infamous Pierce-B said quite a while ago that there will be 2 Bonds with a young Bond doing the Casino Royale thing in an elongated pre-title sequence and then the mature Bond the rest of the way.  Could this actually happen?  Who knows but it is possible.

Pierce-B is just a pathological liar that should not be believed under any circumstances. What he says is possible, but the fact that any person off the street could claim to be an insider and make the same claims and then hope that they come true. Any one of us could have done that and then reaped the praise if it actually came to be.

[Seannery]

[quote name='tdalton' date='25 May 2005 - 02:34'][quote name='Seannery' date='24 May 2005 - 21:19']Which is funny since the infamous Pierce-B said quite a while ago that there will be 2 Bonds with a young Bond doing the Casino Royale thing in an elongated pre-title sequence and then the mature Bond the rest of the way.

[TheSaint]

If it is a 22 year old, I'll pass on Casino and hope they come to their senses in time for Bond 22. God, I'm getting sick of this crap!

[tdalton]

If it is a 22 year old, I'll pass on Casino and hope they come to their senses in time for Bond 22. God, I'm getting sick of this crap!

My thoughts exactly. If they cast a sub 27 year old, then I'll just sit back on October 19, 2006 and watch a few of my favorite Bond films as a small memorial to the death of the James Bond that Ian Fleming created.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I don't want to see Smallville in a tux!

[Righty007]

I'm going to stick with the series no matter what.

[Solex Agitator]

Although I have only overheard whispered speculations and nothing concrete, I am inclined to think this may be EON's stab at establishing undeniable proprietorship over the cinematic presentation of a young Bond. I am sure there is a grey area that Ian Fleming Publications is exploring. Was there not something hinted at in the trades a while back upon the release of SILVERFIN? Correct me if I am wrong...

[trumanlodge89]

oh, come on!! theres no way you'll skip a bond movie!! even a younger actor as bond will still be bond, and a terrible bond film is still better than any other action crap being pushed these days. i would watch moonraker and DAD back to back for a week with no food before watching XXX 2.

and we arent even in PRE-PRODUCTION!! i think we all need to relax. we're still early in the process, and at least the process is moving along.

[Seannery]

Like I said lets not jump to conclusions--that's what we are often best at doing here. We know they have looked at older actors such as Scott, McMahon, Craig and Dench coming back would seem against a very young Bond. A two Bond thing(young and mature) seems possible. OR perhaps they are just casting a very wide net to find the perfect Bond--young to mature and known to unknown. That would be the wisest thing to do--leave no stone unturned looking for the correct Bond. I doubt seriously at the end of the day they will end up with a young Bond--I think they are wiser than that.

[Stephenson]

I needed a bit of time to process the idea, but IMO the young Bond PTS, with an older Bond being in the main movie, does sound like an interesting experiment. I hate bringing up that old parallel again, but I think one of the reasons Spielberg/Lucas did the young Indy intro was because they had the young Indy TV series in mind (correct me if I'm wrong) and needed a tie-in. CR might serve as a way of prepping the audience for the inevitible Silver Fin Bond movie.

Obviously the main concern would be how they would find two actors who look enough alike to make it believable. I would still prefer one Bond age 30-35 for the entire flick, but until I know more about this (for example: is it even true?), I'll just keep the faith and look upon it as Eon trying to think outside the box.

[DLibrasnow]

I think we're just making fun of it because a Bond in his early 20s is something that virtually nobody wants to see. 

I do...I think this is an excellent idea. I am so much more excited about CASINO ROYALE than I was before I read this news today.

[Mr. Somerset]

I think the idea of a 22 year old Bond is more ridiculous than having Clifton James return to the series as agent OO7.

[Bondian]

I think the idea of a 22 year old Bond is more ridiculous than having Clifton James return to the series as agent OO7.

Hadn't you read that Clifton James IS the older Bond?.

[Mr. Somerset]

I think the idea of a 22 year old Bond is more ridiculous than having Clifton James return to the series as agent OO7.

Hadn't you read that Clifton James IS the older Bond?.

Shoot. That's right. Don Knotts, I think, has been cast as the older Felix Leiter.

[Bondian]

Shoot. That's right. Don Knotts, I think, has been cast as the older Felix Leiter.

LOL. Good one.

[Blofeld's Cat]

News that the Jinx Movie is back on the drawing board would be more palatable than a 22 year old Bond.

[Strangways]

Why would an origin story be such a bad thing? For us forty-year-old "fanboys" (as we've been called), a little backstory could be a very fun thing! When Alec Trevelyan gives Bond an historical rundown in the used statue dump, all our ears perked up. When Natalya gives him psychiatric hell on the beach, we silently cheered because we were getting "deeper" than a Bond movie usually does without giving up the fun. Paris Carver gives us a glimpse of Bond's private past. We love it when scenes from the books pop up even if they're not in the film of the same name (TMWTGG's glass wall in DAD, recently).

Eon can be silly, at times, but they're not stupid. Martin Campbell has said we will see how Bond becomes the agent he is. The writers say they will be pretty faithful while still creating a two-hour long picture (expands to South Africa). Producers are looking at younger actors. Eon announces that Judi Dench will return as M. All signs are pointing to at least some sort of origin, but not a Young Bond flick. But what kind will we get?

Consider the Young Indiana Jones scenario - would it be bad? Campbell has already given us some time travel in Goldeneye - the Cold War mission in pretitles and then "Nine Years Later" the rest of the movie showing plot and character depth. If the pretitles shows a 28-ish Commander Bond doing his first assassination, the rest of the film shows an older Bond (Pierce?) that reacts with mixed emotions to the life he's led. (TLD: "If he fires me, I'll thank him for it.") Would he consider marrying Vesper and leave the service? Even after what happened last time? And then you know how it ends. The man can't escape his fate.

Looking at what I just wrote, it reminds me more of a Godfather 2 scenario - the back and forth of Don Corleone: Robert DeNiro as Vito creating the mob life in America, and Al Pacino as Michael seeing the ruination it brings. For those who enjoyed the Bourne movies, myself included, such seriousness added to the fun of Bond could be the ticket that keeps the series around. Then we can worry about Bond 22.

[zencat]

[quote name='Seannery' date='24 May 2005 - 18:51']Like I said lets not jump to conclusions--that's what we are often best at doing here.

[tdalton]

oh, come on!! theres no way you'll skip a bond movie!! even a younger actor as bond will still be bond

It depends on who that younger actor is. Just because Michael Wilson, Barbara Brocolli, and Amy Pascal say a person is James Bond doesn't mean that he IS James Bond.

And yes, there are certain circumstances under which I would skip a Bond movie. If it was clear from the outset that it was going to be a terrible film that tarnished the legacy of Ian Fleming and his character, then that would be grounds for me to skip it. If they go through with this "Bond Begins" nonsense, then I have a feeling that they will lose a good number of fans, especially if they cast some pretty boy like Orlando Bloom in the role.

[SecretAgentFan]

Let

[YOLT]

Than I have a chance I am 23 or maybe I am too old
Jack Davenport is too old in this case (33)

[Athena007]

[...] Even if it is true that the so-called "sources" said that EON and SONY are looking at younger actors (I believe "sources" only when they are identified as top executives and not some planted PR-people disguising themselves as insiders), [...]

I hate PR. Trust me, this is no PR. If it were... we would be naming names -- and we're not, so who are we PRing for?

And a sidenote: If sources are reveled then they are no longer sources and will no longer be able to be sources because info will not be given to them... or, they might even get fired. As for sources being top executives, those people aren't going to talk to the public (identifiably) without a press release, that's why they're getting paid the big bucks.

In closing: this "sources" -report does not really mean anything.

Maybe it doesn't. Things can change, minds can change, scripts can change... oh and the Hollywood world does change... but... we're just telling you what is actually going on on the inside right now -- and that is what everyone seems to want to know.

[David Schofield]

The office door opens and Bond walks in.

"My, James!" says Dame Judy with a heavy, approving sigh, "You have changed, haven't you! No longer are a misoginist dinosaur, are you. Mm, didn't I do a filme recently with Dame Maggie Smith where I swooned over a man young enough to be my grandson. Good old Q: glad he decided to put the funds he's been given into rebuilding you rather than something ridiculous like an invisible car."