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[Seannery]

I mentioned to my wife - who is very much not a Bond fan - that the casting was rumoured to be down to four. 'So, who are they?' she asked. Well, I said, there's a 22-year-old guy... 'Are you joking?' No. 'They can't do that! Who the hell are the others?' Well, one's a 28-year-old Australian unknown... 'That didn't work last time,' she said. (Not a Bond fan, but she is my wife.) 'Who else?' 'Well, there's this Croatian guy who's in ER...' No reaction. 'In his mid-thirties, I think.' No reaction. 'But he is Croatian.' 'She shrugge her shoulders. 'So? Give him vocal coaching. If it's between him and the others...'

I didn't even try to explain Ewan Stewart.

Hmmm..does this story have a point? Other than that your wife is not a Bond fan.

Firstly it's doubtful those are the real 4 choices for Bond. So it's very likely a false choice between weak alternatives. Also i'll throw in my brother's(who's just a mild Bond fan) opinion to add to your wife's take--with Goran he scoffed, "They can't be serious".

[spynovelfan]

I mentioned to my wife - who is very much not a Bond fan - that the casting was rumoured to be down to four. 'So, who are they?' she asked. Well, I said, there's a 22-year-old guy... 'Are you joking?' No. 'They can't do that! Who the hell are the others?' Well, one's a 28-year-old Australian unknown... 'That didn't work last time,' she said. (Not a Bond fan, but she is my wife.) 'Who else?' 'Well, there's this Croatian guy who's in ER...' No reaction. 'In his mid-thirties, I think.' No reaction. 'But he is Croatian.' 'She shrugge her shoulders. 'So? Give him vocal coaching. If it's between him and the others...'

I didn't even try to explain Ewan Stewart.

Hmmm..does this story have a point? Other than that your wife is not a Bond fan.

Sure - the point was to show that one non-Bond fan found the idea of a 22-year-old playing Bond instantaneously absurd and a non-starter as soon as she heard of it, so it is not necessarily just avid Bond fans who think that the character has to be fairly mature to be convincing - even casual Bond-goers may take that as a given. Admittedly, it wasn't the widest focus group and perhaps it's not the most useful contribution to human understanding I've made to the world - or even to this forum. But I thought it was worth making nonetheless.

And the point of your needlessly aggressive and obnoxious response to my post was what, exactly?

[bryonalston]

I mentioned to my wife - who is very much not a Bond fan - that the casting was rumoured to be down to four. 'So, who are they?' she asked. Well, I said, there's a 22-year-old guy... 'Are you joking?' No. 'They can't do that! Who the hell are the others?' Well, one's a 28-year-old Australian unknown... 'That didn't work last time,' she said. (Not a Bond fan, but she is my wife.) 'Who else?' 'Well, there's this Croatian guy who's in ER...' No reaction. 'In his mid-thirties, I think.' No reaction. 'But he is Croatian.' 'She shrugge her shoulders. 'So? Give him vocal coaching. If it's between him and the others...'

I didn't even try to explain Ewan Stewart.

Hmmm..does this story have a point? Other than that your wife is not a Bond fan.

The story's point is that the general public (non hardcore Bond fans) doesn't give a rats about whether or not Goran Visnjic is cast as Bond, and that casting a 22 year old WILL NOT work. Visnjic is one of the best choices for Bond at this point, and will show that EoN is prepared to take a risk with CR, which would be pretty admirable. Casting your standard cardboard cut-out actor might seem ideal, but in 10 years we'll be sick of him and ready to switch up again. However, by casting Visnjic, it will provide the series with the freshness it needs right about now. Taking such a risk is a now or never chance, and EoN should capitalize on it for the free publicity as well as actually getting a NEW BOND, instead of a NEW ACTOR.

[Seannery]

I mentioned to my wife - who is very much not a Bond fan - that the casting was rumoured to be down to four. 'So, who are they?' she asked. Well, I said, there's a 22-year-old guy... 'Are you joking?' No. 'They can't do that! Who the hell are the others?' Well, one's a 28-year-old Australian unknown... 'That didn't work last time,' she said. (Not a Bond fan, but she is my wife.) 'Who else?' 'Well, there's this Croatian guy who's in ER...' No reaction. 'In his mid-thirties, I think.' No reaction. 'But he is Croatian.' 'She shrugge her shoulders. 'So? Give him vocal coaching. If it's between him and the others...'

I didn't even try to explain Ewan Stewart.

Hmmm..does this story have a point? Other than that your wife is not a Bond fan.

The story's point is that the general public (non hardcore Bond fans) doesn't give a rats about whether or not Goran Visnjic is cast as Bond, and that casting a 22 year old WILL NOT work. Visnjic is one of the best choices for Bond at this point, and will show that EoN is prepared to take a risk with CR, which would be pretty admirable. Casting your standard cardboard cut-out actor might seem ideal, but in 10 years we'll be sick of him and ready to switch up again. However, by casting Visnjic, it will provide the series with the freshness it needs right about now. Taking such a risk is a now or never chance, and EoN should capitalize on it for the free publicity as well as actually getting a NEW BOND, instead of a NEW ACTOR.

Even spynovelfan says you can't extrapolate one person into some vindication of Goran as Bond--quite an illogical jump based on just one person. And on that point anyway my brother(a very casual fan) had the opposite view on Goran.

[Loeffelholz]

O'Lachlan is my pick over Visnjic...if these are indeed the choices...

[tdalton]

[quote name='Loeffelholz' date='9 August 2005 - 01:08']O'Lachlan is my pick over Visnjic...if these are indeed the choices...

Edited by tdalton, 10 August 2005 - 03:41 AM.

[Xenia_Onatopp]

:`( I have no more words. :`( :`(

[trumanlodge89]

i wake up at night in a cold sweat thinking about ewan stewart as bond......

[MrDraco]

Ewan Stewart is as cringe worthy as...well anything

[Pussfeller]

:`(  I have no more words.  :`(  :`(

Why so resigned? I think things are looking rather promising, particularly for Butler fans. The final four is clearly a fake. Just use some common sense. Ewan Stewart is proof that the list is phony. So why worry? I'm sure we'll end up with someone good, and right now, it's fairly likely to be Butler.

[Agent 76]

Stewart looks like a truck driver...

[WC]

Stewart looks like a truck driver...

He could star in a revival of those old Yorkie adverts.

[Agent 76]

Stewart looks like a truck driver...

He could star in a revival of those old Yorkie adverts.

[YOLT]

Stewart looks like a truck driver...

If I am not wrong, Sean Connery was a truck driver, at some time in his life.

[Pussfeller]

Stewart looks like a truck driver...

If I am not wrong, Sean Connery was a truck driver, at some time in his life.

Yeah, he was also handsome, at some time in his life.

[Agent 76]

Stewart looks like a truck driver...

If I am not wrong, Sean Connery was a truck driver, at some time in his life.

Yeah, he was also handsome, at some time in his life.

Something Stewart isn't.

[Xenia_Onatopp]

[quote name='Pussfeller' date='10 August 2005 - 11:28'][quote name='Xenia_Onatopp' date='11 August 2005 - 02:47']:`(

[bryonalston]

Maybe Butler should just fill his schedule for 2006 (and 2007 for that matter) so that we won't have to worry about him anymore. At least the list would be narrowed down some

[Xenia_Onatopp]

Maybe Butler should just fill his schedule for 2006 (and 2007 for that matter) so that we won't have to worry about him anymore. At least the list would be narrowed down some

As most of his fans would agree, they'd like nothing more than not have his name associated with Bond at all. Most of them are, after all, women. Yet he's never outrightly said "NO" to Bond. If indeed he got offered the part, the other projects would be rescheduled. Money talks, you know.

[Loeffelholz]

Time to let Butler go...along with Owen, Jackman, and...please!...Brosnan...

[H.M.Servant]

Time to let Butler go...along with Owen, Jackman, and...please!...Brosnan...

what about Craig?
Can I still keep Craig?

Edited by H.M.Servant, 18 August 2005 - 04:30 PM.

[YOLT]

Stewart looks like a truck driver...

If I am not wrong, Sean Connery was a truck driver, at some time in his life.

Yeah, he was also handsome, at some time in his life.

Well I will choose Stewart over that 22 year old Cavill (I am 23 by the way). Cavill has no chance. Ian Fleming's Bond fought in WWII in his 20s and became a part of the 00 section in his 30s or late 20s. Not in an age of 22.

[Shrublands]

I mentioned to my wife - who is very much not a Bond fan - that the casting was rumoured to be down to four. 'So, who are they?' she asked. Well, I said, there's a 22-year-old guy... 'Are you joking?' No. 'They can't do that! Who the hell are the others?' Well, one's a 28-year-old Australian unknown... 'That didn't work last time,' she said. (Not a Bond fan, but she is my wife.) 'Who else?' 'Well, there's this Croatian guy who's in ER...' No reaction. 'In his mid-thirties, I think.' No reaction. 'But he is Croatian.' 'She shrugge her shoulders. 'So? Give him vocal coaching. If it's between him and the others...'

I didn't even try to explain Ewan Stewart.

Hmmm..does this story have a point? Other than that your wife is not a Bond fan.

Firstly it's doubtful those are the real 4 choices for Bond. So it's very likely a false choice between weak alternatives. Also i'll throw in my brother's(who's just a mild Bond fan) opinion to add to your wife's take--with Goran he scoffed, "They can't be serious".

Well I described the

[Loeffelholz]

Time to let Butler go...along with Owen, Jackman, and...please!...Brosnan...

what about Craig?
Can I still keep Craig?

You can keep him, all right. Keep him away from the role.

[H.M.Servant]

Time to let Butler go...along with Owen, Jackman, and...please!...Brosnan...

what about Craig?
Can I still keep Craig?

You can keep him, all right. Keep him away from the role.

Haha...walked into that one...

[Bon-san]

This thread is definitely a good example of how an individual's initial reactionary thoughts, can change over time.

I was dead set against a younger Bond, but I now feel it could be very refreshing (especially with Haggis and Campbell on board).

[zencat]

Whoops, sorry Bon-san. I deleted my post above yours. But yes, it is interesting to re-read the initial reactions here, especially in light of what we know today. I just think people were having an over-reaction to the age 22 (of course, we were talking specifically about Cavill here).

I wonder what ever happened to member "Yo Jimbo"?

[Bon-san]

Whoops, sorry Bon-san. I deleted my post above yours. But yes, it is interesting to re-read the initial reactions here.

Also wonder what ever happened to member "Yo Jimbo"?

You're a sneaky one. Thought I was having an episode for a moment.

Perhaps Yo Jimbo has morphed into a new identity? But which one.....

[zencat]

Perhaps Yo Jimbo has morphed into a new identity?  But which one.....

Yeah, maybe. But that was such a good screen name.