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[The_Hunted]

Their condidering actors in their 20s? Are they mad? This is going to kill the franchise. James Bond No 6 should be at lease 35-40.

[Rogue Agent]

That McMahon comments are very interesting if a little worrying too. I can't help but feel Pierce Brosnan's infamous comment about 'paralysis' may hold a germ of truth. If McMahon's comments are correct, it would apppear Eon can't decide on what sort of Bond they want: younger Bond or older Bond? Rather worrying.

If only Cubby were still alive. He always seemed so definite in what he wanted. It now seems Eon - under his daughter and MG Wilson's control - blow in the wind, incapable of making a decision. With McMahon giving the impression Eon doesn't know what it wants, and Crotian actor Goran Visnjic being auditioned, I'd say it's looking very bleak. Could the franchise be in serious trouble? I know that's been said before but I can't remember such indecision like this before. Eon really do seem incapable of making a decision, or even knowing what type of Bond they want. Even back in 1968 when Connery went, Eon knew they wanted a Connery-type replacement. They never seemed indecisive. But now in 2005 it seems Eon really is in paralysis. I guess Pierce was right after all.

[zencat]

Cubby and co went through times of indecision. At one point they seriously considered making Bond American and casting Burt Reynolds. They signed John Gavin for DAF before going back to Connery (and had to pay Gavin in full). All artists struggle with their work and exlore different approches and options -- Cubby did in his day as much as his daughter does now. Except back in Cubby's day he didn't have the internet blasting stories about his struggles (most of which I think are bull anyway).

[Rogue Agent]

Cubby and co went through times of indecision. At one point they seriously considered making Bond American and casting Burt Reynolds. They signed John Gavin for DAF before going back to Connery (and had to pay Gavin in full). All artists struggle with their work and exlore different approches and options -- Cubby did in his day as much as his daughter does now. Except back in Cubby's day he didn't have the internet blasting stories about his struggles (most of which I think are bull anyway).

Yep, fair point. It's easy for Joe Shmoe to post on a site and lambast Eon for its apparent indecision. But then again, I did read that Brosnan was removed in early 2004 and we're now mid-2005, six months away from shooting Casino Royale. It seems Eon has had over a year to find the right guy without any success, so any negative comments about Eon's apparent indecision and paralysis would seem justified.

[Obiwan]

It would never work you need a bond from the age of 30-45 any younger or older is just a waste of time imo.

[tdalton]

It would never work you need a bond from the age of 30-45 any younger or older is just a waste of time imo.

EON shouldn't set themselves into a set range of 30-45 as far as searching for a new Bond. If there is a 25 year old who is mature looking enough that he can be passed off as a 30+ year old British agent, then by all means, EON should take a look at that person. By the same token, if there's someone who is 46-50 who looks much younger than his age and is right for the part, then EON should consider that person as well.

[Arrant]

I disagree!

This has become a very selfish

[Arrant]

Technical hitch in the above comment!

[zencat]

The Mirror today has reported Henry Cavill as one of the Bond #6 "final four."

Well, I guess it now safe for us to reveal that Henry Cavill IS that 22-year-old "hot" contender we spoke of in this article, but we didn't want to be the one's to reveal his name.

Final Four discussion here

[Pussfeller]

Eww. He's so pug-faced. He looks like Ashton Kutcher's younger brother. Do you honestly think he has a chance of getting the role?

[zencat]

If we are to believe The Mirror, he has a 1 in 4 chance.

[Pussfeller]

In that case, I'm rooting for Visnjic or O'Lachlan. At least they look like Bond, which is more than can be said for the other two.

I'm still fairly sure this is a hoax.

[Frostyak]

Give the next generation their own Bond, if that happens to be a younger one than yours ... so be it!

That sir, is a fine post. I learned about Bond through the James Bond Jr. cartoon series (start the flaming now). My dad found out about this and wouldn't have it. "We're renting Goldfinger this Friday, as soon you are out of school." I was stunned. "Goldfi...huh?!", I replied. Well, due to my seeing that film with my dad I soon saw all of the Bond movies and became a huge fan at a young age (10). Every weekend we'd rent a new one. I saw all of them soon after that. Recording them off the TBS specials that used to run around the first two weeks of December. I've recieved them as presents twice (VHS and later DVD.)

I love the franchise. The action, exotic locations, women, cars, women. At first, I was opposed to a young Bond. I grew up on an older one. But I see nothing wrong with change. And I see nothing wrong with a new generation having "their Bond".

- Chris

[zencat]

Hey, Frostyak. You need to have a chat with our own Athena007. She also came to Bond via James Bond Jr. Clearly this cartoon served a purpose -- during the "gap", Eon prevented a generation from slipping through their fingers.

My only objection to the let a new generation have their Bond idea (which I agree with in principle) is I don't think there is a new generation in place just yet. I think we are still in the era of Brosnan born of GoldenEye . It's close to turn over time, but not just yet.

[H.M.Servant]

[quote name='Arrant' date='7 July 2005 - 01:42']I disagree!

This has become a very selfish

[Loeffelholz]

It really depends on whether or not a young Bond is done well. If it is done well, and yet tanks (like OHMSS), Eon will return to the tried and true formula, as they have in the past, and we few, we Bondian Fanatic Few, will at least have a one-off, long-overdue telling of a classic Fleming tale to enjoy---one which will probably loom larger in the rear-view mirror of history (like OHMSS!).

On the other hand, we all know Sony/Eon does not want CR to tank, and is not willing to wait for posterity's redemption of CR. I predict they will not go with an ultra-young Bond, a la 'Bond Begins'---unless, as previously hypothesized, a young Bond occurs in the early part of the story and a more mature Bond (Brosnan, or a mid-30's alternative) finishes the tale. IMHO, this is as 'bold' as Wilson and Broccoli will possibly want to be.

[Captain Indigo]

if they're considering young james bonds what about sixteen year old boys ?

[Pussfeller]

What?

[Skin 17]

An older Bond just makes more sense to me. I don't want to see some young guy playing a role instead of an older more experienced actor.

[H.M.Servant]

I have another name to throw in the bid for a young Bond next to Henry Cavill.
I saw a great film called "Hooligans" last night which featured Charlie Hunnam, who was very, very good
According to IMDB he's 25 and born in Newcastle (hey, nobody's perfect)
Anyone know him? He was also in Nicholas Nickleby and in Cold Mountain.

Check him out
here

Would have to dye his hair though.

[Spoon]

Hunnam is very light-haired (even for a blond) and pale-skinned... I don't think he'd look good at all with his hair dyed dark. What real qualifications does he have, besides being good-looking and British? I can't see it.

If a 22-year-old like Henry Cavill is seriously being considered... how about 22-year-old Sean Biggerstaff? He had a small role in the Harry Potter series. Here is a pic of this Scottish actor from two years ago.



I don't actually WANT a 22-year-old... at all... but if we had to have one, add two years to that picture, and I think Biggerstaff looks the role a lot more than Cavill.

As a bonus, he also has a name that ranks up there with Pussy Galore on the Bond innuendo list (I'll resist pointing out that his Harry Potter character was named Oliver WOOD.)

[Pussycat]

Hunnam is very light-haired (even for a blond) and pale-skinned... I don't think he'd look good at all with his hair dyed dark.  What real qualifications does he have, besides being good-looking and British?  I can't see it.

If a 22-year-old like Henry Cavill is seriously being considered... how about 22-year-old Sean Biggerstaff?  He had a small role in the Harry Potter series.  Here is a pic of this Scottish actor from two years ago.



I don't actually WANT a 22-year-old... at all... but if we had to have one, add two years to that picture, and I think Biggerstaff looks the role a lot more than Cavill.

As a bonus, he also has a name that ranks up there with Pussy Galore on the Bond innuendo list   (I'll resist pointing out that his Harry Potter character was named Oliver WOOD.)

LOL

[wibg]

Sorry; but, an older Bond is necessary. I believe his naval rank is of field grade status; a commander in the British Navy. That calls for a great deal of experience. You see, James is a top grade professional, a specıalıst in firearms, explosives, all sorts of vehicles and aircraft; not to mention, colonary skills. This man, has been appointed by her majesty's government as a 00 which is a very hi honor. It takes an highly educated and seasoned individual to receive such an appointment.

[Captain Indigo]

if they want to have a young James Bond they can make a film about Bond in the navy

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

if they want to have a young James Bond they can make a film about Bond in the navy

Yeah great, the village people can reunite to do the theme.

[Loeffelholz]

Surely they won't go this young.

[randyh]

Hey all,

I have a cool idea. For the pre-title sequence we have that 20-something year old Bond. Somehow it would link up to the rest of the movie story. After the title song is done we advance 15-20 years and pick back up with Brosnan as Bond. For Bond 22, they use the Bond that was in the pre-title sequence. It would be a good way to smooth the transition like what they did for John Cleese for Q.

Pierce Brosnon is 007 in the mind of the public. To change without a transition would kill the popularity of Bond like OHMSS and TLD/LTK.

I say all this with the understanding that CR will be a strong movie with a strong plotline, etc.

[DLibrasnow]

[quote name='randyh' date='2 August 2005 - 07:24']Pierce Brosnon is 007 in the mind of the public.

[spynovelfan]

I mentioned to my wife - who is very much not a Bond fan - that the casting was rumoured to be down to four. 'So, who are they?' she asked. Well, I said, there's a 22-year-old guy... 'Are you joking?' No. 'They can't do that! Who the hell are the others?' Well, one's a 28-year-old Australian unknown... 'That didn't work last time,' she said. (Not a Bond fan, but she is my wife.) 'Who else?' 'Well, there's this Croatian guy who's in ER...' No reaction. 'In his mid-thirties, I think.' No reaction. 'But he is Croatian.' 'She shrugge her shoulders. 'So? Give him vocal coaching. If it's between him and the others...'

I didn't even try to explain Ewan Stewart.

[H.M.Servant]

I mentioned to my wife - who is very much not a Bond fan - that the casting was rumoured to be down to four. 'So, who are they?' she asked. Well, I said, there's a 22-year-old guy... 'Are you joking?' No. 'They can't do that! Who the hell are the others?' Well, one's a 28-year-old Australian unknown... 'That didn't work last time,' she said. (Not a Bond fan, but she is my wife.) 'Who else?' 'Well, there's this Croatian guy who's in ER...' No reaction. 'In his mid-thirties, I think.' No reaction. 'But he is Croatian.' 'She shrugge her shoulders. 'So? Give him vocal coaching. If it's between him and the others...'

I didn't even try to explain Ewan Stewart.

Hmmm..does this story have a point? Other than that your wife is not a Bond fan.