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[Seannery]

Actually we don't know if Bond will be a 20 something OR an unknown. The Cbn report only says those are among the categories they are looking at. And Zencat further clarified that Eon is casting a wide net for Bond and looking at various ages. So in no way can we assume Bond will be a 20 something--in fact I greatly doubt it since I believe Eon is too wise to fall into that nonsense.

[Daltonfan]

We know that the new Bond will be:

In his young or mid 20s
British
An unknown
Most likely a white man, maybe a black man, hopefully not a woman
Able to do cool spy stuff and must have some action experience
Is attractive enough to look good in Bond's suit

Here are some candidates according to the info above:

Jonathan Rhys-Meyers
Luke Mably
Matthew Goode
Colin Farrell

Are there any other people who fit the standards that could be Bond? Tell me so.

You've hit the problem I did. All these actor will be at least 28 by Jan 2006 (and only two of them are British).

The only 22-year-old, British actor I came up with was the one who played "Oliver Wood" in the Harry Potter films. Except he's not tall and he's rather young looking.

[Bondesque]

I jsut dont buy the 22 year old Bond rumour. MI6 doesn't recruit right out of university.

EON should be looking at actors in the early to mid thirties range.

[KB 007]

Jonathan Rhys-Meyers, Luke Mably, and Matthew Goode are already too old. If this rumor is true they will go with someone like Frankie Muniz, he's seriously going to be in his early 20's by the time the next movie comes out:

Edited by KB 007, 29 May 2005 - 04:55 PM.

[Qwerty]

That would be as mindless a choice, if not moreso, than someone like Orlando Bloom. I believe Wilson, Broccoli & Co. are smarter than that.

[KB 007]

You're right Broccoli and Co. probably are smarter than that, but many "fans" on these boards and whoever started this rumor are not.

[Martin Mystery]

...Ah, I see. You were joking.

MM

[zencat]

I jsut dont buy the 22 year old Bond rumour...

You're right Broccoli and Co. probably are smarter than that, but many "fans" on these boards and whoever started this rumor are not.

This is not a "rumour," guys. It's a stone cold hard fact that some of the canidates for Bond #6 are in their early 20s. Not all of them are, and we are NOT saying the next Bond will be in his twenties...just that they ARE looking at people this young. You don't need to believe it, but I'm telling you it's true.

[Seannery]

I jsut dont buy the 22 year old Bond rumour...

You're right Broccoli and Co. probably are smarter than that, but many "fans" on these boards and whoever started this rumor are not.

This is not a "rumour," guys. It's a stone cold hard fact that some of the canidates for Bond #6 are in their early 20s. Not all of them are, and we are NOT saying the next Bond will be in his twenties...just that they ARE looking at people this young. You don't need to believe it, but I'm telling you it's true.

Yeah as you guys said they are looking those in their 20's as well as other ages. What actor they pick and what age he is, now that is what we don't know yet at all.

[007 Agent]

With respect, Zencat, I find your insider knowledge a bit strange in that you say as fact a 22 year old, amongst other young actors, is being considered yet don't name him. Do you know the name of this young actor? If so, perhaps you can name him so we discuss his suitability. I assume you would ask Eon or your contact for the names of these younger actors, but perhaps I am wrong in that assumption.

Care to name this 22 year old actor?

Taking a guess, I imagine this candidate and other names will be leaked to the media at some point so Eon can gauge fan reaction - so perhaps you can get the ball rolling by naming the guy.

[Seannery]

With respect, Zencat, I find your insider knowledge a bit strange in that you say as fact a 22 year old, amongst other young actors, is being considered yet don't name him. Do you know the name of this young actor? If so, perhaps you can name him so we discuss his suitability. I assume you would ask Eon or your contact for the names of these younger actors, but perhaps I am wrong in that assumption.

Care to name this 22 year old actor?

Taking a guess, I imagine this candidate and other names will be leaked to the media at some point so Eon can gauge fan reaction - so perhaps you can get the ball rolling by naming the guy.

Oh Moomoo just calm down.

[007 Agent]

Oh Moomoo just calm down.

I thought it was a legitimate question.

If Zencat knows 20 year olds are being considered, perhaps he knows their names? Seems like teasing us with information if he knows the names but cannot reveal them.

Besides, this is a forum - the ideal platform to discuss a candidate's suitability for Bond so I don't see any harm in Zencat revealing a name (assuming he was told).


And I never said I was Moomoo.

[zencat]

With respect, Zencat, I find your insider knowledge a bit strange in that you say as fact a 22 year old, amongst other young actors, is being considered yet don't name him. Do you know the name of this young actor? If so, perhaps you can name him so we discuss his suitability. I assume you would ask Eon or your contact for the names of these younger actors, but perhaps I am wrong in that assumption.

Please don't assume this is my source just because I'm the one chatting in this thread. The story is credited to The CBn Team which means it could be anyone's source or even a combo of credible sources.

Obviously we tell you guys as much as we think we can tell you without getting ourselves into trouble with Eon (or possibly running the deal of a lifetime for some young actor). Eon will be the one to name names (or leak names), not us. There's a line that we don't want to cross and this story is sitting right on that line. There's a point where responsibility needs to kick in, even with a fansite. Sorry if it comes off as a tease.

And don't become to fixated on guessing "the one." There are more than one.

[Seannery]

Yes I remember you guys said a number of 20 somethings among other actors of various ages are being looked at. It sort of makes it interesting that actors of all types of ages and fame also are being looked at--it means we can very easily be suprised since we have such a wide selection possible actors of many types to be the next James Bond.

[zencat]

Yes I remember you guys said a number of 20 somethings among other actors of various ages are being looked at.  It sort of makes it interesting that actors of all types of ages and fame also are being looked at--it means we can very easily be suprised since we have such a wide selection possible actors of many types to be the next James Bond.

I think you should become CBn's official spokesperson on this story, Seannery. You have been the voice of reason from page 1. Thanks.

[007 Agent]

Obviously we tell you guys as much as we think we can tell you without getting ourselves into trouble with Eon (or possibly running the deal of a lifetime for some young actor). Eon will be the one to name names (or leak names), not us. There's a line that we don't want to cross and this story is sitting right on that line. There's a point where responsibility needs to kick in, even with a fansite. Sorry.

So why reveal that Eon is looking at younger actors if you won't name any? I understand you don't want to get into any trouble, but it seems like a little tease not revealing any names. I'm genuinely curious which 22 year old is being considered. You are told 20 something actors are in the race but the powers-that-be won't let you reveal the names? Right. Makes a weird sort of sense, I guess.

Edited by 007 Agent, 29 May 2005 - 10:12 PM.

[Seannery]

[quote name='zencat' date='29 May 2005 - 23:01'][quote name='Seannery' date='29 May 2005 - 14:59']Yes I remember you guys said a number of 20 somethings among other actors of various ages are being looked at.

[zencat]

Obviously we tell you guys as much as we think we can tell you without getting ourselves into trouble with Eon (or possibly running the deal of a lifetime for some young actor). Eon will be the one to name names (or leak names), not us. There's a line that we don't want to cross and this story is sitting right on that line. There's a point where responsibility needs to kick in, even with a fansite. Sorry.

So why reveal that Eon is looking at younger actors if you won't name any? I understand you don't want to get into any trouble, but it seems like a little tease not revealing any names. I'm genuinely curious which 22 year old is being considered. You are told 20 something actors are in the race but the powers-at-be won't let you reveal the names? Right. Makes a weird sort of sense, I guess.

Again, sorry if this is a tease. We tell you want we can when we think we can. If you like, we could just hold off and wait for Eon to tell us all. I'm sure Eon would like it that way. Frankly, I think I would too. This whole topic makes me nervous. And I expect if a thirty something Bond is selected (which I personally hope for) we will be called liars.

[007 Agent]

Can we assume these 20 something chaps are British, look the part? Can you reveal that? Or do they look nothing like Bond? Chuckle.

[zencat]

Can we assume these 20 something chaps are British, look the part? Can you reveal that? Or do they look nothing like Bond? Chuckle.

Who says they're even chaps?

LOL.

Just kidding. KIDDING!

You've gotten all you're going to get from me 007 Agent. Direct all questions to our new official spokesperson, Seannery.

[ACE]

I believe Zencat's source and understand the need for discretion. Sometimes a misplaced, premature or erroneous post can not only cause any source to dry up but can also do damage to that source and ultimately the forum, website and organization.

However, I think Eon have always looked at a range of Bonds and work in a long term, foresighted manner. All the recent Bonds have all be previously considered on an earlier Bond hunt. That may be a reason for the purported inclusion of younger actors.

Secondly, I think the script will not be a straight Bond Begins/Sum of All Fears concoction but will feature Bond in flashback hence the potential young actors. I think the scenes they will feature in are the ones of Bond getting his 00: the cipher assassination and the Norwegian double agent murder.

I have no proof of the above other than a gut instinct however, circumstantially I cite the following:

Dalton (still a close pal of MGW and Barbara) was once quoted in an excellent Richard Schenkman Bondage interview as citing the above scenes as being his amongst his favourite. Wilson is a big Fleming fan and is still very influential in the writing of the Bonds. Purvis and Wade are very big Fleming fans and know the books inside out. They are, however, intelligent and professional screenwriters who have to get the job done. CR will not be a straight adaptation of the book (how could it?) but will contain as much as possible of Fleming in it (perhaps including scenes from other novels).

Anyway, Zencat is not trying to tease, just trying to share in as responsible a manner as he can with turning off the tap of any purported inside information.
And if anyone has inside information, it will probably be Zencat.

Let's live to try another day.

ACE

Edited by ACE, 29 May 2005 - 10:53 PM.

[Seannery]

[quote name='ACE' date='29 May 2005 - 23:46']I believe Zencat's source and understand the need for discretion. Sometimes a misplaced, premature or erroneous post can not only cause any source to dry up but can also do damage to that source and ultimately the forum, website and

[007 Agent]

What is curious is Daniel Craig said Sony said he had the role. He is 37 so it does seem odd Eon is looking at 20 something actors. There must be two versions of the Casino Royale screenplay, one featuring an older Bond, one with a younger version.

[tdalton]

What is curious is Daniel Craig said Sony said he had the role. He is 37 so it does seem odd Eon is looking at 20 something actors. There must be two versions of the Casino Royale screenplay, one featuring an older Bond, one with a younger version.

My guess would be (and this is purely just a guess on my part) that they're waiting to see how the reboot goes with Batman Begins. If that film is a critical or financial (or both) failure, then they might want to rethink the reboot strategy. Bond has been beaten at the box office before by Batman, so if the reboot doesn't work for him after only 4 films, then chances are slim that it will work for Bond, who has 20 films under his belt.

And for all of you who are doubting Zencat, look at it this way: At least he's not like Pierce-B and spreading vicious lies as to who is going to become James Bond and then not backing them up when it comes to be that they're not true. I believe him on this that someone in their early 20s is being considered, and it shouldn't be too much of a surprise. Timothy Dalton was offered the role (or at least strongly considered) for On Her Majesty's Secret Service when he was in his early to mid 20s, so it's not that surprising that they might consider someone of that age again.

Edited by tdalton, 30 May 2005 - 01:41 AM.

[zencat]

Thank you ACE and all for the kind words and the vote of confidence in CBn. If Bond #6 is a twentysomething, maybe hearing it now will have helped take the shock away from the official announcement...and if he isn't, I hope you'll all be too relieved to be angry at us for the scare.

[KB 007]

My guess would be (and this is purely just a guess on my part) that they're waiting to see how the reboot goes with Batman Begins.  If that film is a critical or financial (or both) failure, then they might want to rethink the reboot strategy. 

Except with Bond, it wouldn't be a reboot, it would be changing the character. Batman is more like a story. It's how his parents were murdered, how he became Batman, etc. Bond isn't a story, it's a character. Where Bond went to college or whether or not he had zits is just trivial, it isn't essential to Bond. How Bruce Wayne became Batman or how Anikin became Darth Vader is essential.

(Not disagreeing with you tdalton, just wanted to use your post to get my point across.)

[tdalton]

[quote name='KB 007' date='29 May 2005 - 22:48'][quote name='tdalton' date='30 May 2005 - 01:27']
My guess would be (and this is purely just a guess on my part) that they're waiting to see how the reboot goes with Batman Begins.

[Seannery]

[quote name='tdalton' date='30 May 2005 - 04:06'][quote name='KB 007' date='29 May 2005 - 22:48'][quote name='tdalton' date='30 May 2005 - 01:27']
My guess would be (and this is purely just a guess on my part) that they're waiting to see how the reboot goes with Batman Begins.

[tdalton]

[quote name='Seannery' date='30 May 2005 - 00:05'][quote name='tdalton' date='30 May 2005 - 04:06'][quote name='KB 007' date='29 May 2005 - 22:48'][quote name='tdalton' date='30 May 2005 - 01:27']
My guess would be (and this is purely just a guess on my part) that they're waiting to see how the reboot goes with Batman Begins.

[DLibrasnow]

I'm not saying that the success or failure of Batman will determine the direction CR takes, but it is possible that if it is a MAJOR flop, then EON MIGHT reconsider a reboot if that is indeed the idea that they are going with as of now.

And if Batman is a giant success????