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#451 marktmurphy

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 11:16 AM

Pleasingly the BBC's Sherlock has been commissioned for a series of three 90 min episodes, to come in 2010.

Bit of a shame: I'd hoped the pilot would have been on by now. It's called 'A Touch of Pink' apparently!

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 01:37 PM

For those of you who are excited about the Ritchie thing, the second trailer:


Thanks for posting, Safari. Lookin' better and better to me. A two-fisted, brooding Sherlock works just fine for me.

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Posted 18 July 2009 - 05:19 PM

Don't worry ma'm. I'm a professional!

What's this? Sherlock is known to avoid relations with women! What this has to do with him? I am strongly dissapointed by the trailers so far and I don't think that I'll change my mind when I see the film(I doubt if I'm gonna watch it ayway!)

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 01:33 PM

Here's a bit of fun: the new BBC Sherlock series has music by David Arnold!

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 04:20 PM

I'm still on the fence about this new adaptation;
I am interested to see what they show at Comic-Con and I'll report on that afterwards...

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 04:22 PM

Here's a bit of fun: the new BBC Sherlock series has music by David Arnold!


Yumster.

Very much looking forward to this. More than the "film" (Watson punching Holmes in the face? M a woman? Blond Bond? Etc).

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 01:07 PM

Here's a bit of fun: the new BBC Sherlock series has music by David Arnold!


Yumster.

Very much looking forward to this. More than the "film"


Yes, me too. It's a much more exciting prospect for me- some casting that seems pretty spot-on; enormously talented writers; and an intriguing new spin on Holmes. And now music from that Bond chap. A guy on another forum spoke to Arnold and he told him this: the guy got the impression that Arnold was doing the incidental scoring for it too, but I wouldn't like to say if that's right or not- he doesn't usually do TV scores; just themes.
Apparently he also said that he did his version of the Dr Who theme (for the Paul McGann CD plays) because Mark Gatiss asked him. Knocked it up in a morning! So they must be good buddies: Arnold even popped up in a League of Gentlemen.

I'll watch the Holmes film as a bit of fluff and I'm sure it'll be fun, but the BBC's one I find myself actively excited about.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 09:13 AM

ITV3 are currently showing 'Sherlock: Case of Evil', the sort of young, action Holmes TV film from a couple of years ago starring James D'Arcy which I've heard is pretty decent and fun. The next showing is Saturday night at 10.55pm so I think worth setting the box for.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 11:16 PM

ITV3 are currently showing 'Sherlock: Case of Evil', the sort of young, action Holmes TV film from a couple of years ago starring James D'Arcy which I've heard is pretty decent and fun. The next showing is Saturday night at 10.55pm so I think worth setting the box for.

I thought this was a pretty interesting Holmes film. Much more of a radical take and "reboot" than the Ritchie film (which is really not looking all that unconventional to me).

#460 marktmurphy

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:59 AM

Thanks Zen; definitely sounds worth a watch. Bert Coules recommended it too, so I'll give it a go.

One of Holmes' rivals: Sexton Blake gets a bit of attention this week on BBC Radio 2- he was a contemporary of Holmes and had a great many stories written about him. Also a pipe-smoking detective working out of Baker Street, he was a bit more action packed, fond of using his fists against the super villains he came up against! Sort of a combination of Holmes and Bond, I suppose.

I've been partial to a bit of Sexton for a little while now, and now there's a new radio adaptation which sounds rather fun; there's just been an hour long documentary about Blake on Radio 2 which is worth a listen and they played a few clips from this which sounds rather fun and funny!

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/b00lv1rk

Sexton Blake! The name that spells hurtling adventure and doom for villainy. Britain's iconic and most prolifically chronicled sleuth explodes back into action in a brand new series of thrilling adventures; 40 years after his last public incarnation.

In a series of thrilling adventures packed with incident and hilarity, Sexton Blake (Simon Jones), and his plucky assistant Tinker (Wayne Forester), aided by Mrs Bardell (June Whitfield) battle diabolical masterminds, bewitching thieves and sinister fiends, out-thinking them in the head and out-punching them in the jaw!

This cinematic audio romp is a period-set reinvention of Blake's glory years - during the 1920s and 30s and includes a cameo appearance by BBC Radio's 1960s Sexton Blake - the late, legendary and coolly dashing William Franklyn.



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Posted 30 July 2009 - 03:24 PM

The ever awesome Double O Section has a review of The Rivals of Sherlock Homes DVD.

http://doubleosectio...ock-holmes.html

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 08:00 PM

Some good news for us Region 1ers. We're getting the surviving Cushing BBC series episodes and an R1 A Study in Terror -- finally!

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 10:52 PM

Some good news for us Region 1ers. We're getting the surviving Cushing BBC series episodes and an R1 A Study in Terror -- finally!


Great news, havent seen "study in terror' in yearrrrsssss; always remember it as being pretty good;
anyone see Rupert Everertt as Holmes? (did he do just one?) was it any good?

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 11:00 PM

Just read there was a 2002 adaptation of the Hound of the Baskervilles which allegedly is one of the closest produced. Anyone seen this to verify?

Also earlier this week I stumbled upon a series of Sherlock Holmes games some of you may be familiar with. Produced by a French company called Frogwares. Been playing Holmes versus Lupin (holding out to see if the rumored 360 port of the most recent release, Holmes v. Jack the Ripper, actually happens) and I daresay it's quite a bit of fun, if not overly Doyle. Supposedly the first two games are much more Doyle-esque, and I intend to get to them soon enough. Anyone else play these games?

And again also, impossibly delighted to hear about those releases. Cushing has always been my favorite Holmes, even if Brett was equally, arguably more, genius in the role.

#465 marktmurphy

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 11:13 AM

Just read there was a 2002 adaptation of the Hound of the Baskervilles which allegedly is one of the closest produced. Anyone seen this to verify?


The BBC one? It wasn't great.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 05:02 PM

Finally a CBn-like website that keeps up with current Holmes whatnot.

http://www.sherlocknews.com/

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 05:58 PM

Just read there was a 2002 adaptation of the Hound of the Baskervilles which allegedly is one of the closest produced. Anyone seen this to verify?


The BBC one? It wasn't great.


Watched it later that same day, actually. I enjoyed it *shrug* Thought it had the potential to set up an interesting series. Mapped out the whole thing in my head out of boredom.

Anywho, Sherlock Holmes vs Arsene Lupin (billed as Sherlock Holmes: Nemesis in North American releases) is a lot of fun. Not a terrible lot of mystery, given the format. I mean it's there, but it's not really a mystery mystery. Still, I enjoyed it immensely, and the puzzles were, for the most part, decently challenging. Next time I have money I'm definitely going to pick up one of the older games, maybe the remastered version of The Awakened, since that appears to be the most lauded. Recommend the games to anyone who doesn't already play them.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 06:35 PM

Some good news for us Region 1ers. We're getting the surviving Cushing BBC series episodes and an R1 A Study in Terror -- finally!


Great news, havent seen "study in terror' in yearrrrsssss; always remember it as being pretty good;
anyone see Rupert Everertt as Holmes? (did he do just one?) was it any good?

I really enjoy A Study in Terror. BTW, Judi Dench is in it.

The Everertt Holmes film was ok. I don't remember all that much. What is interesting (and unexpected) was Everertt turned in a performance that was very old school. Instead of the manic Holmes, he played him as very laconic, sleepy, a genius with his head (and nose) in the air. Very much like Wonter and Norwood. It was the way to play Holmes until Rathbone redefined him (and Brett took it a step further).

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 01:08 AM

Found and reading a copy of the script for the current film, dated March 14, 2008. A good read, and certainly seems like it will make a good movie, but not sure it will make a good Holmes movie. I'm fine with changing aspects of the character. I quite liked the changing of the relationship between Watson and Holmes in the 2002 Baskervilles, and I like the way they modified stories and characters for Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century (the reason I got into Holmes, actually). But some of it seems...poor. For example, Holmes no longer uses cocaine and morphine in this draft. Fine. Drug usage has been scrapped from other portrayals. But they replace it with alcohol, as if they want to keep him on something, but not cocaine. It just feels like a bit of a poor trade-off to me. The beginning is also slightly...disconcerting. It's a little less Sherlock Holmes and a little more Captain Fisticuffs. Still, once we move beyond that, it starts getting good, and it's seeming like the movie will be good, if they haven't changed this draft too terribly (which judging by the trailers and little snippets out there they haven't). Will edit in my grade for it when I've finished, simply because I feel like doing so. If anyone would like to read the script, I would be more than happy to supply a link to my source.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 07:55 PM

First pic I've seen from Steven Moffat's new series for the BBC with a modern take. I bet this is going to be pretty awesome.

http://www.sherlockn...-by-steven.html

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:30 PM

I'm fine with changing aspects of the character. I quite liked the changing of the relationship between Watson and Holmes in the 2002 Baskervilles,


That's the one with Richard Roxbourgh, right? Loved that one personally. They cut some of the best and most atmospheric sequences of the book, but it was still by far the best adaptation I have seen of the novel. In fact, probably my favourite Holmes film (except The Great Mouse Detective, off course!).

Anybody seen the Sherlock Holmes TV-film starring a certain Roger Moore? Any good?

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:41 PM

I'm fine with changing aspects of the character. I quite liked the changing of the relationship between Watson and Holmes in the 2002 Baskervilles,


That's the one with Richard Roxbourgh, right? Loved that one personally. They cut some of the best and most atmospheric sequences of the book, but it was still by far the best adaptation I have seen of the novel. In fact, probably my favourite Holmes film (except The Great Mouse Detective, off course!).


Yeah. I quite liked it as well. Roxburgh was an okay Holmes, imo. Very good, but not so much that I'd adamantly want him to keep on. Ian Hart, however, I think was the best John Watson we've had to date. Still, I am a bit sad that was a one-off thing, Roxburgh-Hart Baskervilles. I quite like what my brain mapped out, and I thought the two men worked very well together. Oh well, a boy can dream.

And thanks for that link, zen. Looks like it's going to be very good indeed. If nothing else worth a once-through.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:43 PM

I also really liked that 2002 Richard Roxbourgh Hound.

The Moore film, Sherlock Holmes in New York, is not very good. But fun to watch as a curiosity.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:01 PM

I'm fine with changing aspects of the character. I quite liked the changing of the relationship between Watson and Holmes in the 2002 Baskervilles,


That's the one with Richard Roxbourgh, right? Loved that one personally. They cut some of the best and most atmospheric sequences of the book, but it was still by far the best adaptation I have seen of the novel. In fact, probably my favourite Holmes film (except The Great Mouse Detective, off course!).


Yeah. I quite liked it as well. Roxburgh was an okay Holmes, imo. Very good, but not so much that I'd adamantly want him to keep on. Ian Hart, however, I think was the best John Watson we've had to date. Still, I am a bit sad that was a one-off thing, Roxburgh-Hart Baskervilles. I quite like what my brain mapped out, and I thought the two men worked very well together. Oh well, a boy can dream.


It's a shame they did not make an entire series of TV-films with those guys.

The Moore film, Sherlock Holmes in New York, is not very good. But fun to watch as a curiosity.


I honestly think I would find even the worst movie an interesting curiosity if it starred Roger Moore.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:05 PM

If you want a curiosity might I suggest Basil Rathbone? Holmes vs Nazis always makes me giggle.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:21 PM

I love Rathbone in anything, so I'll see if I can find any of his Holmes movie at the local library.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:31 PM

BTW, I just got the Region 2 DVD of The Sever Per Cent Solution. I wanted to have a widescreen version in the collection while I wait for a R1 version. But talk about sloppy packaging. On the back of the sleeve they have a photo of Christopher Plummber from Murder By Decree. B)

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:33 PM

Sloppy seems a bit of an understatement.

Edit:

Well I finished the script today. And to quote the finale of my lengthy rambly post from elsewhere about it:

As a script, I give it a B.
As a Sherlock Holmes script, I give it a C-.

But it was a first draft, and judging from the trailers, some stuff has definitely been changed (the most obvious changes seem to have been changed for the better) so I'm hopeful that C- becomes, at the very least, a C+.

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 02:05 AM

Robert Duvall's bloody awful in that film.

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 01:00 PM

First pic I've seen from Steven Moffat's new series for the BBC with a modern take. I bet this is going to be pretty awesome.

http://www.sherlockn...-by-steven.html


Oh marvellous; yes- first I've seen of anything from it as well. Can't wait to be honest; should be cracking.