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[Qwerty]

Definitely recommend it Righty. Well worth it.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I know one thing...I am keeping my copies of the original trilogy (pre-1997 Special Editions) in a safe place.

You can have neighborhood SW showings in 10 years and charge a fortune! That VHS set will be worth a killing!

[Qwerty]

I know one thing...I am keeping my copies of the original trilogy (pre-1997 Special Editions) in a safe place.

You can have neighborhood SW showings in 10 years and charge a fortune! That VHS set will be worth a fortune!

Nice!

[Johnboy007]

I can't imagine watching the STAR WARS TRILOGY before '97. Who wants to see Jabba as a human in A NEW HOPE and then as a slug in RETURN OF THE JEDI?

Jabba was not in STAR WARS, nor in human form.

Or the fuzzy crap under Luke's speeder?

I always assumed it was heat from the speeder's emissions, much like cars on a really hot day.

You really should watch the Original versions, they aren't the garbage you think they are.

[Qwerty]

As a human in A New Hope?

...as a human?

[Johnboy007]

As a human in A New Hope?

...as a human?

Perhaps he has him confused with Greedo, even though he wasn't human.

I'm confused.

[Righty007]

Jabba was a human being in the original A NEW HOPE and a slug in the original RETURN OF THE JEDI. He is now a slug in both thanks to the '97 Special Editons.

[Johnboy007]

Jabba was not a human in any of the movies. Jabba was not originally in A New Hope. And was brought in, in 1997, in the form he was in from Return of the Jedi.

[Tarl_Cabot]

The landspeeder looks fine in the older film!

there are a few very cool shots that are added to the new editions but most are totally unneccessary and distracting. The joy of older SW movies is watching the magic unfold with limited resources;SW is great because of the ingenuity of a young film maker with enormous creativity who achieved unimaginable results with modest means. Now, that we have CGI and money to burn and almost none of the new effects are as captivating...it just looks fake for the most part and cartoonish. Some of the vistas of the planets are awesome but for the most part, I'd rather have seen an 80's era produced prequel trilogy. Just me...

[Johnboy007]

Probably going to get yelled at for this but:

Greedo:

Jabba:

[Righty007]

I just watched the feature before the '97 A NEW HOPE Special Edition today! George Lucas said he replaced the human Jabba with the slug Jabba so that the trilogy would be consistant.

[Righty007]

I know who Greedo is and I know who Jabba is. I also know that Jabba was originally human.

[Johnboy007]

http://imdb.com/title/tt0076759/fullcredits

No Jabba. (no bother )

[Qwerty]

As a human in A New Hope?

...as a human?

Perhaps he has him confused with Greedo, even though he wasn't human.

I'm confused.

Yeah, simple deal as I understand it now.

[Tarl_Cabot]

That Jabba scene should have stayed on the cutting floor. The dialogue is almost exactly the same as the Greedo scene. It also makes no sense for a gangster of Jabba's level to make threatening visits if his henchman just completed on on his behalf. That show's Lucas' lack of artistic vision and wisdom regarding the re-workings...he already made good choices. If it aint broke, don't fix it G-Lu!

[Qwerty]

I just watched the feature before the '97 A NEW HOPE Special Edition today! George Lucas said he replaced the human Jabba with the slug Jabba so that the trilogy would be consistant.

Bah, silly Lucas.

[Righty007]

I just watched the feature before the '97 A NEW HOPE Special Edition today! George Lucas said he replaced the human Jabba with the slug Jabba so that the trilogy would be consistant.

Bah, silly Lucas.

He had visuals. Apparently what happened was the '97 scene was made from a cut scene. Now I understand.

[Qwerty]

If it aint broke, don't fix it G-Lu!

Well if they're his films, it's most definitely his choice.

I think they're fine as they are.

[Harmsway]

Well if they're his films, it's most definitely his choice.

It's just a shame he's making some mistakes, IMO anyway.

[Qwerty]

Well if they're his films, it's most definitely his choice.

It's just a shame he's making some mistakes, IMO anyway.

Yes, I agree with you.

[Johnboy007]

This is the definitive list of the rumoured changes that I have seen:

http://www.jwfan.net...iewtopic&t=5194

[Harmsway]

This is the definitive list of the rumoured changes that I have seen:

http://www.jwfan.net...iewtopic&t=5194

If I remember correctly, that list turned out be complete fan boy speculation. There isn't any Yoda in ANH, no senate dissolution scene, no completely redone Obi Wan / Vader duel complete with Duel of the Fates, and I don't think there's any Vader goes to Palpatine ending. Nothing anywhere near that drastic in any of the 3 films. Lucas has touched up his films, but they're just a few touches up here and there on the Special Editions - and most of the corrections are on SFX rather than anything else.

[Johnboy007]

This is the definitive list of the rumoured changes that I have seen:

http://www.jwfan.net...iewtopic&t=5194

If I remember correctly, that list turned out be complete fan boy speculation. There isn't any Yoda in ANH, no senate dissolution scene, no completely redone Obi Wan / Vader duel complete with Duel of the Fates, and I don't think there's any Vader goes to Palpatine ending. Nothing anywhere near that drastic in any of the 3 films. Lucas has touched up his films, but they're just a few touches up here and there on the Special Editions - and most of the corrections are on SFX rather than anything else.

Good to know, I posted it as rumoured, I certainly hope you are correct!

While it's more than likely that it was Photoshopped, there are pictures of a Hayden Christansen being, at the end of ROTJ.

[Qwerty]

Interesting link except for that one picture.

[Glor (009)]

There is always hope. Once Lucas dies his estate will certainly release whatever versions will make them the most money and that will be the originals.

To all who say "he can do whatever he wants with them..."

Just because you "can" do something doesn't mean you should. If you bought an original Van Gogh and decided to "update" it with some additional painting of your own, you would own it and it would certainly be your right to do that. You wouldn't be surprised at all if people got upset about it.

Not only does GL have a right to do whatever he wants with his films, all of his fans have a right to say whatever they want about him. IMO he is pretty egotistical to think he can make the originals better when they were already beloved by millions.

[JackChase007]

IMO he is pretty egotistical to think he can make the originals better when they were already beloved by millions.

And the thing is that he's basically trying to convince us that we are wrong and don't know better. How can he tell us what to think?

[Qwerty]

IMO he is pretty egotistical to think he can make the originals better when they were already beloved by millions.

And the thing is that he's basically trying to convince us that we are wrong and don't know better. How can he tell us what to think?

Well if he has the power to...

I guess he must think it a truly fantastic idea to do so though.

[JackChase007]

IMO he is pretty egotistical to think he can make the originals better when they were already beloved by millions.

And the thing is that he's basically trying to convince us that we are wrong and don't know better. How can he tell us what to think?

Well if he has the power to...

I guess he must think it a truly fantastic idea to do so though.

Well, then he must think wrong from what it seems.

[Harmsway]

IMO he is pretty egotistical to think he can make the originals better when they were already beloved by millions.

And the thing is that he's basically trying to convince us that we are wrong and don't know better. How can he tell us what to think?

Well if he has the power to...

I guess he must think it a truly fantastic idea to do so though.

The problem with how Lucas works is that there's never a definitive vision in his mind where he's happy enough to let things be, step back, and say "It's done."

[Qwerty]

IMO he is pretty egotistical to think he can make the originals better when they were already beloved by millions.

And the thing is that he's basically trying to convince us that we are wrong and don't know better. How can he tell us what to think?

Well if he has the power to...

I guess he must think it a truly fantastic idea to do so though.

The problem with how Lucas works is that there's never a definitive vision in his mind where he's happy enough to let things be, step back, and say "It's done."

Maybe, he'll finally do that soon after he's done with completing the series.