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[Max Zorin]

Hmm...well, it has been a while since I've seen it. I just remember not being terribly impressed by it.

[Qwerty]

Hmm...well, it has been a while since I've seen it. I just remember not being terribly impressed by it.

I disliked it the first time, because it did seem like the dialogue came first and the action came second.

Once you watch it a few times though, it really turns out well.

[Max Zorin]

I disliked it the first time, because it did seem like the dialogue came first and the action came second.

True, but the same can be said for the film "Collateral" which I thought was fantastic. So perhaps I should give Entrapment another go.

[Qwerty]

I disliked it the first time, because it did seem like the dialogue came first and the action came second.

True, but the same can be said for the film "Collateral" which I thought was fantastic. So perhaps I should give Entrapment another go.

I definitely would. Collateral is turning me off though, not sure about that one.

[Max Zorin]

I wasn't sure about it either. The concept seemed intriguing, and I love Micheal Mann's work, but I was a little weary of Cruise. While he has done some challenging work in the past (Born on the 4th of July, Rainman, The Last Samurai) he's also done Days of Thunder and Mission Impossible 2. Not to mention his horrible turn as Lestat in that vampire movie.

However, I was pleasantly surprised by him - and the movie. It exceeded all of my expectations.

[Qwerty]

Perhaps I will give it a try then. He was the thing I was most unsure about.

[zencat]

Not sure if I posted this here or not, but I made a LIST on Amazon. #1 on the list: The Postman. And I can watch Bring it On over and over and...

[DLibrasnow]

I saw that list....quite interesting.

[Qwerty]

Great list Zencat. I most recently saw Bring It On...high energy is one way to describe it. Armageddon on there is a bit of a surprise to me, I always thought people though of it just as good, as it is.

[Max Zorin]

I always enjoyed the Postman...Waterworld, too. I think Costner takes to much flak from fans and critics alike.

I'm surprised at the inclusion of Fight Club on your list, zencat. I wouldn't exactly call it a "guilty pleasure" or "better than you think". Many fans and critics agree that it may be the best film of the '90s.

(I don't agree with that at all, but that's just me.)

[Qwerty]

Whoa. Didn't see...Joe Verus the Volcano on there.

Interesting addition.

[Max Zorin]

Strangely enough, I too enjoy many of the films on that list. Not all of them mind you (Superman III is a crime against humanity - in fact ANY superhero movie that features RICHARD PRYOR as the villain is), but I do enjoy quite a few of them.

[Qwerty]

I always enjoyed the Postman...Waterworld, too. I think Costner takes to much flak from fans and critics alike.

Kevin Costner is a good actor, I've no problem with him.

I do think though, that anything directed at Waterworld is for the most part, deserved. I tend to agree with the usual comments on that flop.

[Loomis]

Caught up with another old guilty pleasure recently (once again, a Stallone flick), NIGHTHAWKS (1981).

See, that film isn't a guilty pleasure to me, it's a great film period. All the things that you find cheezy and unrealistic, I've enjoyed. Let's break it down:

STALLONE- Probably the best acting of his career w/ the exception of his Hoffa-esque character in F.I.S.T. Stallone actually underplays the role of "Deke" DaSilva. This was probably the only Stallone film that I wished I'd seen when it was released.

BILLY DEE WILLIAMS- He and Stallone have a decent rapport. Granted, he's the token Negro of this production but he's effective early on(the raid in the Bronx) and the scene after he get's sliced works IMO. Doesn't have that much to do and was probably able to jump right into production for STAR WARS: TESB. Hey, he was THE Black actor of the seventies with sex-appeal (sorry Jim Brown). Second billing and a nice paycheck in a cool thriller. We should all be that fortunate.

RUTGER HAUER- Pre-BLADE RUNNER, this is the film that made Rutger "the man" in many eyes. A terrorist, similar (and I'm sure based on) Carlos "The Jackal." A man who wants to be a celeb. The "make me beautiful" line with the plastic surgeon, revealed all you truly needed to know about the character. I'm sure he got the Roy Batty role based on his performance in NIGHTHAWKS. "You may drop the baby DaSilva but not the note," has got to be one of the coldest lines from that era.

LINDSAY WAGNER-Yeah, two days work and fourth billing on the credits. Only Brando got a better deal for SUPERMAN. She plays Stallone's fashion designing ex-girlfriend, who's propositioned by future pørn stud Jamie Gillis(!) Again, just cash the check and keep it moving.

THE CITY- My city, NYC in all it's late-70s grime and glamour. The fashion, locations and soundtrack(on BackStreet Records and Tapes) truly encapsulate the era. From the nightclubs to the hijacking of the Tramway, you can't say that flick was shot in Canada! BTW, the bodega(grocery store) where Wulfgar operates out of is 6 blocks from where I live(East Harlem).

THE SOUNDTRACK- Yeah, it's kitschy and "dated" but so's the film. Again, it's right for the era, where everyone what trying to get down with disco. Loomis, I had no idea that Keith Emerson was the E in ELP. Note: he also did the soundtrack for the IRON MAN cartoon that Marvel ran about 4-5 years ago. Don't like the score? Hey, I guess Giorgio Moroder wasn't available.

Yeah, that was "Brown Sugar" you heard in the background. It's on the DVD in it's proper place. Somebody tell me what the deal is with removing songs from films. I head that was a big thing with the original video release of SIXTEEN CANDLES.

I'm sorry Loomis, this film resonates with me and remains the only STALLONE film that I own(I'll get COPLAND at some point). JUDGE DREDD should be added to the list, but it's too disappointing to be a guilty pleasure. The only joy one gets is imitating Rob Schneider-imitating Stallone with his "Eye am th' luuaaawwwwhhh" bit.

Damn, I almost forgot.

PERSIS KHAMBATTA- The hottest celluliod terrorist I've ever seen(Liz Hurley in PASSENGER 57 doesn't cut it). Yes, 'ol girl from STAR TREK:TMP is back, with hair, high fashion duds and a gun. Yeah, she would've been the "it" girl of the 80s if it hadn't been for MEGAFORCE(add that one to the truly bad movies thread). Rest in piece girl.

You know, you're absolutely right on NIGHTHAWKS, Robinson. I gave it another viewing the other day, and was surprised by just how well-made and gripping it is. If only the script were a little bit better, but, still, yes, it's a terrific film.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Time Share, or Bitter Suite, whatever you know it as.

Tim rules.

[Genrewriter]

Hudson Hawk.

[The Dove]

Poltergeist III.. Okay so its the weakest of the three films, but I still kinda like it.. It still creeps me out the fact that Heather O'Rourke passed away before the film was completed (another victim of the so-called Poltergeist curse??).. and I think that the special effects were pretty well done (well except for that fake snow in the garage scene and the fake ice when Scott comes out through the frozen pool.. I also thought that just the whole setting (inside the Hancock tower in Chicago was awesome.) To me it is a film that had great potential, but sadly fell way short of it.. Still a fun movie to watch with all the lights off!!

[Jericho_One]

The Keep and Excalibur.

Thinking objectively, they're both bad, but I love them and find them quite intriguing in each viewing.

[Number 6]

I can't believe that I'm admitting this but I've always liked:

DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR

Terrible actors, terrible script and plot but I think it's a fun watch.

[Safari Suit]

Hmm, I don't really ever feel "guilty" about enjoying a film, but if we're talking about films which were dismissed by critics/large sections of the public, than anywhere from 40-60% of my favourites could fit in this category, including many already listed.

Edited by Safari Suit, 01 January 2007 - 12:24 PM.

[Seannery]

Hmm, I don't really ever feel "guilty" about enjoying a film, but if we're talking about films which were dismissed by critics/large sections of the public, than anywhere from 40-60% of my favourites could fit in this category, including many already listed.

Great post! A good deal of worthy films are just overlooked.

[DamnCoffee]

I like Catwoman

[Seannery]

Well not all overlooked films are worthy.

[moorebond82]

Well AVTAK and Casino Royale(1967) are on my list as are all The Nightmare On Elm Street films,Rock 'N' Roll High School,The Great Rock And Roll Swindle,The Black Cauldron

[Tarl_Cabot]

I enjoyed Tokyo Drift

[Juliet]

Not sure if these would be considered bad, but they are my guilty pleasures.
1. The Postman-Kevin Costner
2. Magnificent Seven-does a cast get any cooler than this?
3. To sir with love
4. Anything with Sean Bean.

[00Twelve]

The campier Bond flicks, Rocky IV & V, Die Hard 2, Duel, Bill & Ted, Batman Forever, Jaws 3, AVP, and the odd numbered Trek films.

[Gothamite]

Hook

- I don't even see this as being a guilty pleasure anymore. I just see it as under-rated. It has a very fun plot and all throughout you feel like a kid again. It also has the best movie-flying this side of the Christopher Reeve Superman films.

RoboCop 3

- This is quite a bad film, but it's awfully good fun, if you're in the mood.

Big Daddy

- A standard Adam Sandler flick, but with a lot of charm. I bought it on VHS years ago, and I often stick it in to unwind.

Edited by Gothamite, 03 January 2007 - 02:43 PM.

[mrsbonds_ppk]

1. A Man called Sledge
starring James Garner ( James is my favorite actor ever
so its cool to see him in this bad-boy role
because he always playes good-guys.)

2. Rocky V ( It kinda sucks, but i'm a true Rocky fan
so this one get's the softness of my heart a bit)


3. Oscar starring Sylvester Stallone ( I don't know what it is but.. I like it.)


Well there are more but I think that's all folks.

Edited by mrsbonds_ppk, 04 January 2007 - 10:24 AM.

[bond_girl_double07]

I can't believe I'm admitting this but:



My sister has this weird obsession with really REALLY bad horror films, and it's hilarious to watch her watch movies like this (Plus the title implies that Marsupials can be scary.. and that's somehow ridiculously funny to me )

I also love all of the 70's Blacksploitation films (Scream Blacula Scream comes to mind)