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[Jamie007]

Before she became well known, I always thought that Catherine Zeta Jones could have been a classic Bond girl, but shes too well known now.
I cant really think of anyone else. I really think they should stick to foreign or unknown actresses.
Hmm.. There is that girl from the start of TWINE, the girl who was in the boat chase and blows herself up in the balloon. I thought she was great. She should have been one of the main girls, not Denise Richards. I'd love to see the actress who played her return. It wouldnt be the first time an actress returned in a different role in a Bond film.
Jim

[DLibrasnow]

True, Maud Adams has been in three Bond films. She played Andrea in TMWTGG, Octopussy in OP, and she had a walk on part in AVTAK.

[iceberg]

Unknowns (and semi-unknowns and modestly known) for the Next Bond girl:

1. Amber Valleta
2. Bridget Moynahan
3. Saffron Burrows
4. Irene Jacob
5. Natasha Henstridge
6. Patricia Velasquez (she should've played Jinx)
7. Tia Carrere

[Carver]

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
True, Maud Adams has been in three Bond films. She played Andrea in TMWTGG, Octopussy in OP, and she had a walk on part in AVTAK.

She had a walk on part? Forgive me for knowing nothing, but where abouts was she in AVTAK?

[11 11]

Halle Berry is the most overrated movie star there is.

First she can not act

Second she is annoying and stuck up

Third she is not even good looking enough to be a Bond girl

Fourth she just is not sexy

I think that gives my opinion.

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by 11 11
Halle Berry is the most overrated movie star there is.

First she can not act

Second she is annoying and stuck up

Third she is not even good looking enough to be a Bond girl

Fourth she just is not sexy

I think that gives my opinion.

I can let three of four slide, you 're entitled to your viewpoint of course.

But the "annoying and stuck up part".....

Tell me, Have you met her? Do you know her PERSONALLY????

Sounds suspiciously like another "I don't really know jack about her playa hata". I can tell you this.....she's not hardly "full of herself" as say J. Ho is. And Jenny has 1/3 the talent.

I met her in a social setting once and she was very refined and sweet. Not a hint or arrogance. No "star trip". A great sense of humor. Sh eculd have just blown me off. People that I know that have worked in the film industry with her say she's VERY down to earth and treats foks the way she wants to be in return. She has also said that she wished she could have done more with the Jinx role but she was very confined and restricted by the produceres, writers and director.

Didn't think so (that you had personally met her). Leave the parts out that you can't possiblty back up. And don't take my word for it. I just know what I saw.

[11 11]

I guess you could call it a sixth sense then.

In my opinion, when a person is full of it they are stuck up.

I would have to say just look at her co-star in DAD, Pierce Brosnan.

Now Pierce is not stuck up, and you can tell. Now look at Berry, anyone with any sense about people can tell how her mind works, and what her motivations are.

I am sorry but if you are not the most beatiful woman, yet it is claimed you are?

You are not the best actress in the world, yet it is claimed you are?

You are not the best Bond girl, yet it is claimed you are?

You are not that great a movie star, but you are said to be the number one female star?

Do you really think none of this media bull **** comes from Halle Berry herself?

Is she just that lucky to have everyone kiss her *** like that?

Please, let us not argue over such nonsense.

[chad bradly]

Please this conversation is ****. Why are we debating her acting performance. Halle's performance was on par with all the past Bond girls. There is one reason this film is the "biggest Bond of all" her. It's the same James Bond (Brosnan) as the last three movies. The plotmovieacting isn't any better then the last three. It's MGM pushing Halle Berry. She is the hotest chick out there right now. Terri was big in 97, Denise was hot in 99, now Halle's the rage. They are the flavour of the month or in Halle's case the year. With her Oscar and other assets shes what pushed this movie over the top. Brosnan was great but he's always great, however as an actor he is the one element that remained the same in the last three movies. She is new and she is the difference why this movie did better then tha last three. There is no debating that.

[Glen Barrington]

Yeah, let's NOT!

Your arguement is based on pure speculation.

If you really believe all that nonsense you just wrote, then place some blame on her PUBLICIST, her MANAGER, her AGENT, the MEDIA.

I again come back to Jennifer Lopez, another media darling with a high profile.

Lopez was seen by MILLIONS on Barba Walters making stupid arrogant statements that many walked away withthe distinct impression she thinks she IS the best there is at everything. She caome off very haughty and concieted.

Berry, on the other hand, was on Jay leno recently and came across as personable, human, witty and basically taking things as they come. She doesn't make essessive demands (like Lopez), she doesn't come of as patronizing or condescending to her fans. And being bi-racial, she had to put up with a whole lot of **** that Lopez hasn't. Berry also had to work 5 times harder to make people see past the face and bod and see she had depth.

Beery paid some dues and got waived off of a lot of juicy parts before she got to this point. She literally clawed her way to respectability. Lopez (and her ilk) haven't. Until Berry did "Dorthy Dandridge", everyone thought she was just a prety face-no more than that. For her work, she got the Emmy. For such an unlikeable, unglamorous role, she got her Oscar.

As I said before, no, she wasn't the "best" Bond gal. But the picture's a done deal, she did her one shot and it's over.

To keep harping on her on a personal level is childish and immature. No one has to concern themselves-I doubt she'll be back in another Bond film. She's been there, done that now.

Hopefully, next time, they will go with a lesser known actress with an International appeal. And we can end all this asinine carping over someone folks like to use as a scape goat for all that was wrong with DAD.

[11 11]

I see you are misinterpreting my posts.

All I am saying is that in MY OPINION, when someone is full of bull ****, that makes some one stuck up.

Now, as I said the hype(bull ****) surronding Halle is downright ridicluous.

To me that equals stuck up, people have different views.

I for one would not be in the same room with the Julia Roberts/Tom Hanks/Halle Berry/Leo DiCaprios for this reason.

I could not stand that amount of self promoting bull ****.

As for all you say about Berry so what? Has nothing to do with bull **** self promotion.

About her agent/publicist, etc. who do you think pays them and tells them to do that? Could it be Berry?

As to J-Lo I personally could care less she has zero talent anyway. Stop arguing like I care about her, even Berry has more talent than she does.

Finally chill man, this is not intended as a personal attack or to piss off anyone ok?

You do not have to get so pissy really.

[chad bradly]

Hey Glennnn, I'm not sure if you are reffering to my response to this post or the original post. I thought Halle was fine. I'm just stating that without Halle's involvement this film would have been on pace to be the same or slightly bigger the TWINE. With Halle as big as she is right now it helped MGM push this film a little harder bring on more ad's and blow this picture up huge --- In a good way. Halle's cool as Jinx. Bond is Bond it will always do well (almost always), she just threw it over the top.

[Glen Barrington]

No pissines here, bro.

When you express ypurself in an extreme manner with a condescending tone, expect a similar reponse.

I wouldn't call it pissy.

You say you're an actor? Then why don't you call up one of the Publicists for
Julia Roberts/Tom Hanks/Halle Berry/Leo DiCaprio and maybe things will pick up for ya.

Because the TRUTH is if you were enjoying the level of fame and popularity any of these are (love 'em or hate 'em all), you'd be LOVING IT, too!

And milking it for all it's worth....Nomatter what you say to negate this fact, we all know it would be poo.

Chad, you are on the money. Brosnan was the one constant in all three films. They relay on "Flavor of the month" females to populate these Bond flicks. And Berry's particiation DID have a positive effect on box-office. They sure played up the Oscar Winner" aspect in the ads.

Whne you have this much money invested in a film, you use every trick to fill seats. I think it's called Marketing.

[11 11]

Glen I live in NZ I am not in with the Hollywood crowd and no I would not be interested in or "milking" it not my style.

People from NZ are a lot more down to earth than that, Sam Neill is from NZ, a perfect example. He makes some of the biggest movies ever, well bigger than what Berry has ever done, but you see none of that shallow promotion. We are just different from the states.

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by chad bradly
Hey Glennnn, I'm not sure if you are reffering to my response to this post or the original post. I thought Halle was fine. I'm just stating that without Halle's involvement this film would have been on pace to be the same or slightly bigger the TWINE. With Halle as big as she is right now it helped MGM push this film a little harder bring on more ad's and blow this picture up huge --- In a good way. Halle's cool as Jinx. Bond is Bond it will always do well (almost always), she just threw it over the top.

Chad, I was referring to this particular post above.

And I agreed with your observations. I don't always agree with what Marketeers do to push a film, but I understand WHY they do it.

Thanks for asking for the clarification.

[Robinson]

Originally posted by 11 11
Glen I live in NZ I am not in with the Hollywood crowd and no I would not be interested in or "milking" it not my style.

Okay 11 11. How 'bout we cast Rena Owen(Once Were Warriors) as a Bond Girl/Woman for Bond 21. Granted she's in her late 30's- so she could play 007's romantic interest and get killed off mid-way thru to pave way for the 20something ingeneue That's about to grace the cover of American "Stuff?"

FWIW- I love Rena Owen. You could have Temuera Morrison and/or Cliff Curtis as Bond Villians as well.

[11 11]

Robinson I live in Wellington and I heard that EON may move the Bond franchise there, just like LOTR is here.

Sounds good right?

Ye that could work casting her just fine.

[Glen Barrington]

This Rena Owens is not a bad choice. Attractive.

What do you both recommend worth viewing see that shows her acting chops well?

[iceberg]

Originally posted by 11 11
I guess you could call it a sixth sense then.

Wow. In addition to squirrels and fans frothing at the mouth, we now have psychics on this site, as well....

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by iceberg


Wow. In addition to squirrels and fans frothing at the mouth, we now have psychics on this site, as well....

Yep.

Like Sly Stone once said. "Everybody Wants To Be A Star" (in some capacity).

This includes being physic, I suppose.

I never saw any legit back up on the "full of BS" line, other than " I've got a Sixth Sense" about it. That's why I keep firing my PPK! LOL! I just am convinced that (in Berry's case), Adam is part of the usual big star backlash that occurs when someone gets big time, you see and hear their name to ad nauseum. A troll group emerges to simply bash with zero rationale. When you strip them down, it's really just they have grown to hate the name and person with it. The artist has actually said ot done nothing to perpetrate this. You've got your Madonna haters, Ashanti haters, J. Ho haters, Halle Berry haters, Russell Crowe haters, Julia Roberts haters, Clooney haters, Brosnan haters, Moore haters, and so on.

I used to chuckle when I first heard the line "Hate the GAME, not the PLAYER". But in this case, it really does make more sense.

[iceberg]

Too true, GB. That sad thing is that human nature being the way it is, we will find fault with anything. We're all guilty of it. None of us are safe from the wrath of our peers, especially not poor Halle... But she's still okay (both as a person and as Jinx) in my book. Okay, okay... never having met her, I suppose I'm basing my benign assesment of her on my sixth sense.

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by iceberg
Too true, GB.  That sad thing is that human nature being the way it is, we will find fault with anything.  We're all guilty of it.  None of us are safe from the wrath of our peers, especially not poor Halle...  But she's still okay (both as a person and as Jinx) in my book.  Okay, okay... never having met her, I suppose I'm basing my benign assesment of her on my sixth sense.  

Iceberg, my sentiments exactly!

"Sixth Sense"! That's a HOOT! You made me smile.

I don't know how much she got paid for her role, but after winning an Oscar, you usually get a nice 'bump up" in what you can demend in the film marketplace. It's funny how many who have won previously never learned how to parlay that high visibility achievement into forward momentum (as in Mira Sorvono, Marisa Tomei, Cuba Gooding, Jr, Woopie Goldberg, etc.), but I have no doubt Halle will. Unlike Lopez (and I love to use her as a similar example to Berry only) she not hellbent-she's just very driven and focused and I commend her for that. I would also think she learned something from the experience-how not to allow yourself to be boxed into a limited performance in a high-profile film.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

i truly hope she is gone for good, did not care for her at all, thought she took the attention away from bond and (that should never happen) and really tried to upstage bond. on the other hand i did like wai lin....she knew her place and did not get in the way of bond saving the day and i dont like these strong mouthy women coming in a bond movie and flexing their muscles at all its better to have hot women like christmas jones mary goodnight who dont get in the way

[chad bradly]

Bondfinesse 007 in another thread did you not say there was nothing wrong with DAD and were asking people (sorry telling people) to stop cutting up DAD. Now you are stating that you didn't like Halle Berry. Correct me if i'm wrong -- and I'm NOT -- Halle berry was a big part of DAD. How can you rip people for chat about what they felt was the worst scene in DAD - when you claim there wasn't any bad scenes, and now claim that Halle Berry wasn't any good. WOW

[BONDFINESSE 007]

no, i find nothing wrong with dad and there was no bad scenes, BUT BERRY IN AND OF HERSELF, SEPARATE FROM DAD I MOST CERTAINLY CAN AND CAN CUT HER UP BY HERSELF......WHY BECAUSE THIS WAS THE JAMES BOND MOVIE NOT THE HALLE BERRY SHOW. I DID NOT LIKE HALLE BERRY ANYWAY....BUT THAT IS NOT DAD,S FAULT.

[11 11]

As far as I am concerned Berry was the worst Bond girl of all time.

But again just an opinion.

[Glen Barrington]

Yawn.....

[killkenny kid]

Hey can we give Ms. Berry a break. I mean this the same franchise that gave us. Christmas Jones (Denise Richards) Stacey Sutton (Tanya Roberts) Bibi Dahl (Lynn-Holly Johnson) and Holly Goodnight (Britt Ekland). Halle wasn't that bad.

[Jamie007]

I liked Britt Ekland

[BONDFINESSE 007]

and christmas was to hot for words and britt ekland was hot as well

[killkenny kid]

That's cool with me, she's not my cup of tea. And I will not spend my time beating you up for it.