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[Adam]

Halle Berry is a good person? Are we forgetting about the whole hit-and-run incident?

Halle Berry's an annoying, lying, attempted murderer who really isn't that talented to begin with...and the Jinx character was just lame, no matter who played her; however, for some reason I have a feeling Jinx was unfortunately created solely for Halle Berry

[JackChase007]

I'm not the biggest fan of Halle Berry, and I was very worried when it was announced that she would be in DAD, but when I saw the movie, I was impressed. I think she did rather well and held her own. Was she revolutionary as a Bond girl? No. But she definately was memorable.

[iceberg]

Ms. Berry did alright with what she was given. Better her than someone else like Whitney Houston, who allegedly was rumored for the role.

Uh... nothing against Ms. Houston, but no thank you.

[DLibrasnow]

I think Halle Berry is a helluva lot more talented than Ms. Pike, who I simply can't stand...

[WarBird]

Well I'm against you on this one jeff. I thought Halle Berry was great in that movie. Don't get me wrong, but at some points she did sound a little dumb even though the rest of the movie was fine. She a great actor in my opinion and I'm sure in others too, but I don't think she was that bad. Oh well, everyone has there own tastes in movies/actors.

[Contessa]

I feel that Halle is a fine dramatic actress, but the role of Jinx was a poor fit for her. She isn't particularly physically commanding on screen, and her line readings lacked the sophisticated "knowing" edge that the part necessitated. (And with dialog like that, who needs enemies).

[JackChase007]

Well, I thought that Rosamund Pike was terrific, and blew Berry out of the water. She certainly stole her scenes...

[solitaire]

Originally posted by Adam
Halle Berry is a good person? Are we forgetting about the whole hit-and-run incident?

Halle Berry's an annoying, lying, attempted murderer who really isn't that talented to begin with...and the Jinx character was just lame, no matter who played her; however, for some reason I have a feeling Jinx was unfortunately created solely for Halle Berry

AN attempted murderer? That's a bit over the top. You certainly have every right to loathe her (for whatever bizarre reasons),but she was aquitted and paid her dues to the woman she injured by accident. Halle is a wonderful person,who would never hurt anyone on purpose. She was going through a lot of emotional turmoil in her life at that time.

[Carver]

I'm also with Solitaire on this one (although he/she is controversal and insulting on other topics, on this they are being right). That was a bit over the top from Adam there, from what I've heard, Halle was emotional and traumatised by the whole incident, and its not really right to call her anattempted murdere, however much you may hate her, she is not who you sau she is.

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by Adam
Halle Berry is a good person? Are we forgetting about the whole hit-and-run incident?

Halle Berry's an annoying, lying, attempted murderer who really isn't that talented to begin with...and the Jinx character was just lame, no matter who played her; however, for some reason I have a feeling Jinx was unfortunately created solely for Halle Berry

Good grief! "Attempted murderer"!!!!!

She DO something personal to you or your family??

That was a very stupid and ridiculous thing to say on an open forum.

Since we're "slicing the beef this thin", why don't we all talk about "YO MOMMA", Adam?

Is that a line from DAD you can somehow relate with?

That's the lowest thing I've seen written in this forum yet. And hasn't a cotton picking thing to do with the subject matter. Stick with the topic, son. Don't show your ignorance like that-it's unbecoming.

[iceberg]

Hee-hee.... Let the mayhem begin...

[Jamie007]

You arent alone Jeff. I couldnt stand Halle Berry. One of the worst Bond girls ever. I dont find her particularly attractive (too masculine and athletic. I want to see some curves!) and her acting was usual Bond girl acting (ie, not too good). I just dont see why she is so popular with everyone, she doesnt do anything for me. Now Miranda Frost, she was something!! You guys can have Jinx, I'll take Miranda over her anyday!
Jim

[iceberg]

If I had too choose between them, the outcome would be simple:

"Love you Halle, but Roz... get in the Aston Martin and let's go, you ice maiden, you."

Still I do have to say, Jamie, that I'm a little surprised about your comment regarding Ms. Berry's alleged lack of curves. It seems to me that she has more curves than the roads far up in the Japanese Alps...

Ciao

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by Jamie007
You arent alone Jeff. I couldnt stand Halle Berry. One of the worst Bond girls ever. I dont find her particularly attractive (too masculine and athletic. I want to see some curves!) and her acting was usual Bond girl acting (ie, not too good). I just dont see why she is so popular with everyone, she doesnt do anything for me. Now Miranda Frost, she was something!! You guys can have Jinx, I'll take Miranda over her anyday!
Jim

ROTF!!

I haven't a CLUE as to what YOU may be looking at Jamie, but hey, whatever blows your skirt up. I'll respect your opinion.

Love or hate Halle's acting abilities, she IS stacked. Period. Supertuff bod. That one aspect can't be denied, not even by most "Halle-haters".

Even THEY'LL give it up on THAT point.

[Adam]

Originally posted by solitaire
Halle is a wonderful person,who would never hurt anyone on purpose. She was going through a lot of emotional turmoil in her life at that time.

Oh I see, you & Halle Berry are BFF, that's how you would know this...

[Adam]

Originally posted by Glen Barrington
Since we're "slicing the beef this thin", why don't we all talk about "YO MOMMA", Adam?

Is that a line from DAD you can somehow relate with?

That's the lowest thing I've seen written in this forum yet. And hasn't a cotton picking thing to do with the subject matter.  Stick with the topic, son. Don't show your ignorance like that-it's unbecoming.

Don't condescend to me, I'm more intelligent than my rude comments would suggest...the primary reason I said most of that was b/c I KNEW it would garner angry responses from people who really shouldn't care if a celebrity gets slammed on an anonymous forum...

You really don't need to respond to that b/c I will doubtfully check this thread again

[Glen Barrington]

Very appropro signature, Adam.

You get what you give........

[Adam]

Originally posted by Glen Barrington
Very appropro signature, Adam.

You get what you give........

Hold on, I'm confused--were you planning on giving the punchline to that misguided quip in a later post?

OK I know I said, "You really don't need to respond to that b/c I will doubtfully check this thread again" and now I mean it...I swear...

[matt007_3k]

im with jeff319, i didn't like halle berry at all, number 1 like you all said very poor punchline/on-liners, second she copied most of the other bond girls (like the comming out of the water like honey, and not a damesl in distress like the girsl from LTK, TSWLM etc.) and i don't want to seem racist, thats the last thing i want to be, shes black/brown (whatever you want to call it) and shes the first bond girl whos like that, the only other one is Rosie carver in LALD, but Solitare was the bond girl in that movie not Rosie. But i did like the slang she uses like "yo moma", and another thing she over did things (such as the hip movement after she comes out from the water)

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by Adam



Hold on, I'm confused--were you planning on giving the punchline to that misguided quip in a later post?  

OK I know I said, "You really don't need to respond to that b/c I will doubtfully check this thread again" and now I mean it...I swear...

SURE you won't.....

Tadpoles ALWAYS swim back to the scene of the crime.

Bottom line here is your initial remarks were way, WAY over the top and apparently, I wasn't the only one who called you on it.

Think what you like. Halle was only one of many "hired guns" for this film. She didn't write the lousy lines she had to recite. They told her what to do, she got paid and it's over and done with. I agree with many of the posts that said she was fair at best, there have been better Bond gals, but some seem to hold her PERSONALLY responsible for Jinx's more mediocre moments in DAD. Excessive hip movement coming out the water? I'd say that was likely Lee T's call-not hers.

For those who may not think Halle can act (and didn't deserve her Oscar), I invite you to SKIP "Monsters Ball" and instead, go rent Spike Lee's "JUNGLE FEVER". Halle Berry's performance (as Samuel L. Jackson's girlfriend) will scare the hell out of you. No make up. No slinky gowns. No nothing. Just the most intense drug addict performance I've ever seen. Harrowing and completely convincing. THAT'S when I knew she was not just a pretty face, but that indeed, with the proper vehicle, she'd convince Hopllywood she COULD truly act her **** off. . And yes, she's had her share of bombs and turkey parts, also. Just like Pierce B, Sean C. etc. Like her, they took thier share of pundit flak and moved forward.

I had mixed feelings about Halle being in a Bond film, like a lot of folks. After seeing it a couple of times, I think she did what she was told to do, plus we got no character depth on Jinx. Some of her lines WERE barfers. Those shortcomings are the filmaker's doings, not so much her. I've read she had minimal input on her character anyway.

For an "accused murderer", as you Adam so sardonically and tastelessly put it, I'd say she has recovered nicely (from that nasty incident) and has been on one hell of a roll ever since. Perhaps she wasn't the best Bond girl, but she'd always be several cuts abouve, say a Tayna Roberts.

Hate the GAME, pal, not the PLAYER......and you keep YOUR condescending remarks in your hip pocket, OK?

[General Koskov]

I don't know about Roberts...I rather miss the hoarse 'James! James!' which is a much better substitute for lame-**** 'quips'.

My question is: why does she need a knife to eat a fig in bed?

[Jamie007]

Originally posted by iceberg
Still I do have to say, Jamie, that I'm a little surprised about your comment regarding Ms. Berry's alleged lack of curves.  It seems to me that she has more curves than the roads far up in the Japanese Alps...  
Ciao

Originally posted by Glen Barrington

ROTF!!

I haven't a CLUE as to what YOU may be looking at Jamie, but hey, whatever blows your skirt up. I'll respect your opinion.

Love or hate Halle's acting abilities, she IS stacked. Period. Supertuff bod. That one aspect can't be denied, not even by most "Halle-haters".  

Even THEY'LL give it up on THAT point.

I dont know, she just doesnt look feminine. I like long hair and soft feminine bodies. That rock hard stomach thing doesnt do it for me. I agree with you Glen about Halles 'Supertuff bod', but that doesnt turn me on at all.
Now Frost, thats feminine!

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by Jamie007



I dont know, she just doesnt look feminine. I like long hair and soft feminine bodies. That rock hard stomach thing doesnt do it for me. I agree with you Glen about Halles 'Supertuff bod', but that doesnt turn me on at all.  
Now Frost, thats feminine!

Jamie, now you never heard me say that Miranda Frost wasn't a hottie either!! LOL! She sure as hell was, and also had a killer bod to boot.

As I said earlier on (in the thread about what Fleming would've thought about them both), it's two flavors of some tasty ice cream. Just depends what you're in the mood for at the moment.

I actually thought Berry looked far sexier in "Swordfish". Hair was a little longer, tastier outfits and I make no reference to the infamous "boob scene" at all. (I wish she hadn't done that, but hey, I hope she really got her extra $500K as reported. If you're gonna flash, might as well get paid for it).

But I hear ya on the over sculptured bod thing....Some love it, others want more natural curves. A lot of actresses pay huge money to look like those two did.

[Robinson]

Originally posted by Adam
Halle Berry is a good person? Are we forgetting about the whole hit-and-run incident?

Halle Berry's an annoying, lying, attempted murderer who really isn't that talented to begin with...and the Jinx character was just lame, no matter who played her; however, for some reason I have a feeling Jinx was unfortunately created solely for Halle Berry

Adam, don't get your boxers in a twist. She was charged with leaving the scene of an accident and somehow pleaded "no-contest" to the charge and settled with the crash victim. Attempted Murder sounds like your dislike finding it's voice on this website.

Now as for annoying & not that talented, that's debatable. Certainly she's no more "untalented" as Denise Richards, Tanya Roberts and a host of other Bond Girls. Craw all you want about her Academy Award win but she did what many other actresses do: take a "showy" role that's so outside her image, that folks have to notice. Sorta like Marisa Tomei in "My Cousin Vinny" or Gwyneth in "Shakespeare in Love."

I think that what irks so many of us about Halle/Jinx is that she's too recognizeable a face to be a Bond Girl. Most Bond Girls are "discovered" or on the cusp of worldwide recognition. Hatcher, Richards and Berry were all household names by the time they did a Bond film. Is it any wonder that there were American women cast in the last 3 Bond flicks? The fault lies with MGM for their desire to market to the young 'uns. I'm half expecting Julia Stiles and/or Brittany Murphy to be cast in Bond 21.

For EON the formula should be this:

If the girl's on the cover of British Maxim: DISCUSS CASTING HER.

If she's on the cover of American Maxim: FORGET IT.

[Robinson]

Originally posted by Glen Barrington


I actually thought Berry looked far sexier in "Swordfish". Hair was a little longer, tastier outfits and I make no reference to the infamous "boob scene" at all.  (I wish she hadn't done that, but hey, I hope she really got her extra $500K as reported. If you're gonna flash, might as well get paid for it).  

But I hear ya on the over sculptured bod thing....Some love it, others want more natural curves. A lot of actresses pay huge money to look like those two did.

Uhhh, gents?! If someone's gonna be a government agent and physically be Bond's "equal," then their bodyfat index is gonna be less than you're used to. I know what it is, y'all have got images of Grace Jones as May Day in the back of your minds, on top of Moore/Bond, running things...

I'll agree that Berry looked better in Swordfish, especially the scene where's she's in her drawers & wearing a wire. That moved me more than her being topless.

FWIW, apparently Demi Moore's had over $300K worth of plastic surgery to appear as the villain in Charlies Angels 2. I'm sure she's banking on this being her "comeback" film. Whatever

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Jamie007
You arent alone Jeff. I couldnt stand Halle Berry. One of the worst Bond girls ever. I dont find her particularly attractive

She's a lot more attractive than that ugly Pike

[Jamie007]

May Day... eww..
I also agree that Halle looked much better in Swordfish. I still think Jinx was much better then Wei Lin (sp?), Paris Carver and Christmas Jones, but I hope in the next movie they bring back the classic bond girl. A sexy russian chick or something like that.

[Glen Barrington]

Originally posted by Robinson


Adam, don't get your boxers in a twist. She was charged with leaving the scene of an accident and somehow pleaded "no-contest" to the charge and settled with the crash victim. Attempted Murder sounds like your dislike finding it's voice on this website.

Now as for annoying & not that talented, that's debatable. Certainly she's no more "untalented" as Denise Richards, Tanya Roberts and a host of other Bond Girls. Craw all you want about her Academy Award win but she did what many other actresses do: take a "showy" role that's so outside her image, that folks have to notice. Sorta like Marisa Tomei in "My Cousin Vinny" or Gwyneth in "Shakespeare in Love."

I think that what irks so many of us about Halle/Jinx is that she's too recognizeable a face to be a Bond Girl. Most Bond Girls are "discovered" or on the cusp of worldwide recognition. Hatcher, Richards and Berry were all household names by the time they did a Bond film. Is it any wonder that there were American women cast in the last 3 Bond flicks? The fault lies with MGM for their desire to market to the young 'uns. I'm half expecting Julia Stiles and/or Brittany Murphy to be cast in Bond 21.

For EON the formula should be this:

If the girl's on the cover of British Maxim: DISCUSS CASTING HER.

If she's on the cover of American Maxim: FORGET IT.

I'm no yes puppet, but when someone puts it all in context far better than I possible could, then I simply have to agree and say "Touche!"

Denise Richards: Cutie pie? Yes. Window dressing in TWINE? Yes. Actress of depth, no.

Now, Demi (Gimme) Moore, that's one egocentric and vain lady. She's a classic example of what I said earlier about actresses who have the bucks will spend stupid mounts of money to have shapes (and washboard abs) like Halle and many others. Demi as actress always leaves me cold-she always comes off frosty and bitchy in her roles ("Ghost" is the exception, to be fair), but I will give her credit that she looked tasty (and buffed) as a corporate vampire in "Disclosure".

Yup, we need a nice, fresh face non-American gal with the guts of a Carole Bouquet. I liked the way her role was written, and the actress played the part well. Sophie Marceau was fine as wine to look at but chilly (and not real convincing) in the role.

I concurr that maybe the whole problem with HB and DE and TH (to a lesser degree) is too much recognition for box office boost. Kind of indirectly throws the thrust and tone of the picture off a bit. The hype on DAD over the female star was almost too much this last go round. This is a franchise that MADE female stars after a Bond film appearance.

Eon should really look at going that non-star Bond girl route. If I see a Jennifer Love-Hweitt or the like in the next one, I'm gonna barf. Plenty of undiscovered talent out there with international appeal.

[Jamie007]

Originally posted by Glen Barrington
Eon should really look at going that non-star Bond girl route. If I see a Jennifer Love-Hweitt or the like in the next one, I'm gonna barf. Plenty of undiscovered talent out there with international appeal.

I couldnt agree more.The last time they went for girls who werent well known was Goldeneye, and I think that that movie had by far the best girls of all the Brosnan movies.
Jim

[Glen Barrington]

I totally agree, Jim.

Famke Jannsen you want to "knock da boots" with and chase around the house with an egg beater (like Tom Hanks in "Bachelor party")!

Isabella Scourpo you can take home to meet Moms!

THEN chase her, too! I liked the way her character got into Bind;s head in GE. One of those tasty and rare scenes (on the beach) that prys open his most closely hidden aspects of his personailty.

So, of the "up and coming" talent, who would you all like to see given a go at it?