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[han4bond]

I think (read: hope) the timeline all but confirms that Christopher Nolan will be directing. It's all but impossible to make a Nov 2018 start date the way he likes to prep and shoot (no second unit). He'll probably take a few months off after Dunkirk, then take over writing duties from Purvis and Wade. The script will be ready by the end of spring for a summer/early fall start date, which will give them the majority of 2019 for post.

 

All speculation, but I think it's a sound theory based on Nolan's timeline and known interest. Involving Lee Smith and Hoyte Van Hoytema in Spectre (replacing two already world-class crew members) seemed to me like an obvious setup by the producers to get Nolan on board for the next one.

 

The biggest question mark is whether they'll also take this time to recast the role.

Edited by han4bond, 26 July 2017 - 08:56 PM.

[DavidJones]

Skyfall was basically a Nolan film, so there would be little point in getting him.

[rubixcub]

Hmm, almost a little surprised not to see Paul McGuigan on there, if it's true that he was one of the final two contenders for "Casino Royale", not to mention his success with "Sherlock".

 

Villeneuve's name in the conversation is not a surprise, though I also thought he'd be unlikely because of "Dune".  MacKenzie doesn't surprise me -- after "Hell or High Water" was an Oscar nominee for Picture, Acting, Writing, but not Directing, I figured he'd be in the "just critically successful enough without exceeding our price range" bracket.  I would've put Joe Wright in the same camp but then "Pan" happened.  Morten Tyldum was a nominee but not a winner, and apparently was in talks at one point; then they got Mendes back, and Tyldum did "Passengers".

 

Never heard of Demange.

 

Part of me thinks that, if the next one is successful, they'll try to keep that director around to usher in the next Bond's first installment.  And yes, interesting that two of the three have worked with Jack O'Connell...

 

Dave

Skyfall was basically a Nolan film, so there would be little point in getting him.

 

I would say SPECTRE was more of a Nolan film; they used his editors & cinematographer, plus it was overlong, like some of Nolan's recent efforts.

 

Dave

[han4bond]

Yes, Skyfall was heavily inspired by The Dark Knight; that doesn't make it a Nolan film any more than it makes Casino Royale a Nolan film for taking inspiration from Batman Begins. All very different movies. It's also confirmed that the producers are interested in him and he's interested in doing it, so they obviously don't feel they've already covered that ground.

[sharpshooter]

*rubs hands with joy* "Buckle up, ladies and gentlemen and please keep your hands inside the ride at all times..the Bond machine is about lift off.." I have no idea about any of these directors myself but hey I'm always up for a new face behind the camera..

My thoughts too. I'm not familiar with these directors, but I'm happy to see serious movement on Bond 25 now.

[Gobi-1]

Also Nolan has taken directly from Bond. Morgan Freeman showing Bruce Wayne all of his equipment is basically Q showing Bond all his new gadgets. The snow fortress in Inception was inspired by Piz Gloria in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Nolan freely admits these references. Bond and Nolan has both influenced each other. I think it's inevitable that Nolan will direct a Bond film at some point.

[PPK_19]

Well. Time to get excited about Bond again, after months of nothing!

Nice to see everyone's thoughts once again, I haven't been in these parts since Spectre ended! Hello Cbn again, my old friend.

Dennis Villeneuve directing would be fantastic. Him and Deakins together would craft a beautiful Bond film!

[DaveBond21]

It's great to have a date. November 2019.

 

That means we will know the title of the next Bond movie in around 15 months' time!! Not long to wait at all!! 

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[wdj89]

According to Variety, Yann Demange is the front runner and believed to be the choice and Warner Bros are considered the likely distributors.

Which would probably suggest, one last run with Craig and then reboot with Nolan, especially if EON sell and Nolan is given creative freedom by his pals at WB

Edited by wdj89, 27 July 2017 - 07:19 AM.

[Simon]

 

Weighing in with little knowledge, I would imagine the 'Selling' story has as much weight to it as the 'JBUniverse' story.  I can't imagine the Broccoli clan doing either.  It would fly in the face of everything they have been striving to do of late with the court cases to bring everything in under one roof.

 

I would counter this by saying that the reason Eon could want everything under one roof at last is so they can put the whole thing up for sale. It's much easier to pitch a sale if there are no niggling little drawbacks, like a half-ownership with MGM.

 

Good point.

 

Point conceded.

[Professor Pi]

According to Variety, Yann Demange is the front runner and believed to be the choice and Warner Bros are considered the likely distributors.

Which would probably suggest, one last run with Craig and then reboot with Nolan, especially if EON sell and Nolan is given creative freedom by his pals at WB

 

I like this idea.  SPECTRE might have been better under Nolan with a non-linear ending more Inception like than presented as real time events.  Skyfall was basically Bond copying Batman copying Bond.  Both films have teased whether or not Bond is alive ("Why not stay dead?", "The dead are alive".)  Nolan might say something really interesting with a story about hero worship as he would undoubtedly have some meta-comment about Bond and his iconography.

 

However, whether this should be canon would be highly controversial.  Also, if Nolan is given the keys to reboot, you can expect Tom Hardy as Bond, Marion Cotillard as one of the female leads, Michael Caine as M, and Hans Zimmer scoring.  Those developments would not be to everyone's liking here. But it'd be a big kick off to a 60th anniversary in 2022!

[DavidJones]

On a personal level, I would regret Nolan's involvement (I find his work pretentious, cold and bloated, but have a friend who is a big fan) and I avoid all films with Tom Hardy. So this would be one film which I would skip. It would be interesting to see if I could resist missing it. 

[Dustin]

I like some of Nolan's work, and some of it I don't mind at all. That's not so different from other directors and the flavour-of-the-month sonnyboys of the feuilleton are often a bit overrated and inflated in ego and import.

But all that's not what would keep me from giving Nolan a try. What does is the fact I really don't see how Nolan rebooting Bond would be a step forward - or even a move in any direction.

If we already know his main ingredients - Hardy, Cotillard, Caine - if we already know about the photography (Hoytema), the music (Zimmer) and the general look-feel of the film (Inception), why then do we need to see the film at all? To see 'what he does with it'? Frankly, currently I have trouble to imagine Nolan would really surprise with Bond, on any level. He'd very likely deliver a decent feelgood movie, sufficiently streamlined to the expectations of the audience and lauded by some critics no doubt.

But why should I feel the need to watch it - when it feels as if the Nolan-Bond is already around for years?

That's not to say I would boycott a Nolan-Bond. I'd just rather prefer it some way down the road, at a time when his shtick has run its course and Hardy is maybe M and there's no Zimmer and none of his trademarks and Nolan isn't going by his numbers. In twelve or 20 years maybe.

[PPK_19]

Daniel Craig lets slip that he's doing Bond 25?:

https://twitter.com/...126132368076800

[Dustin]

Who knows. Maybe they already wrapped shooting and it's all in postproduction now? What smashing good fun that would be if they came out June '18...

[Odd Jobbies]

Hmm, almost a little surprised not to see Paul McGuigan on there, if it's true that he was one of the final two contenders for "Casino Royale", not to mention his success with "Sherlock".

Have you seen his last movie, Victor Frankenstein?

 

Frankly, It's a mess. Has it's moments, but they are few.

 

I'm always excited to see a McGuigan movie, ever since Gangster No1, an outright classic imo. Lucky Number Slevin has style in buckets and gets better each time i see it. But a filmmaker is so often only ever seen as being as good as his last movie, meaning McGuigan needs a reboot - lower budget corker to get back on the Bond list.

 

As much as i respect his talent i wouldn't give him the reigns of Bond after Victor Frankenstein.

[Gobi-1]

If a Nolan Bond came out in 2021 or 2022 I wouldn't expect Michael Caine as M. He'd be pushing 90 at that point. I'd go with Nolan alum Tom Wilkinson. However I hope Ralph Finnes remains even in a rebooted timeline.

[Orion]

Caine, though a natural M given his past in the genre (indeed he essentially plays M in Kingsman), I agree will be too old by then. I'm hoping Fiennes is M for the long haul.

[wdj89]

mark rylance would be possible

[Pussfeller]

What is the cause of this renewed Nolan speculation?

[Professor Pi]

What is the cause of this renewed Nolan speculation?

 

He was asked about it recently and said he'd be interested but only if EON needed him.  Someone on this thread suggested that meant for a rebooted Bond 26, not 25.

[PPK_19]

I don't get this Caine as M nonsense! As someone pointed out, he is practically 100 years old already!

If Nolan did step in to direct Bond 25, he'd keep Fiennes et al. Surely.

Anyway, when do people expect to hear an official announcement about Craig returning for Bond 25?

[Dustin]

Anyway, when do people expect to hear an official announcement about Craig returning for Bond 25?

Reasonably - as soon as they can announce him. Which would indicate they currently can't i.e. something's keeping them. Since it's also reasonable to expect a general willingness of Eon to see him back the logical conclusion would be that the announcement of the Bond actor will be closely related to the studio deal. I'd say they will both be announced together - whenever that happens to be.

[SecretAgentFan]

Maybe EON has deliberately given BOND 25 an additional year because they want to/have to keep their options open: either getting Craig back or giving themselves a year to find a replacement. 

[Surrie]

Some chatter on twitter this morning about Craig not only returning for Bond25 but for 2 more additions, potentially released in quick succession of each other. 

 

http://movieweb.com/...ed-150-million/

 

Obviously very, very early days to be speculating such but could hold some weight if they wanted to complete the SPECTRE/Blofeld story with Craig.

[PPK_19]

 

Anyway, when do people expect to hear an official announcement about Craig returning for Bond 25?

Reasonably - as soon as they can announce him. Which would indicate they currently can't i.e. something's keeping them. Since it's also reasonable to expect a general willingness of Eon to see him back the logical conclusion would be that the announcement of the Bond actor will be closely related to the studio deal. I'd say they will both be announced together - whenever that happens to be.

 

 

Perhaps they are waiting for Logan Lucky to finish it's run in theatres before announcing, as not to overshadow it or something. But it's more likely the studio deal, as you said.

 

 

Some chatter on twitter this morning about Craig not only returning for Bond25 but for 2 more additions, potentially released in quick succession of each other. 

 

http://movieweb.com/...ed-150-million/

 

Obviously very, very early days to be speculating such but could hold some weight if they wanted to complete the SPECTRE/Blofeld story with Craig.

 

Yes I've seen this chatter. It's very very unlikely because if DC did another two films he'd be Sir Rog's age in AVTAK by the time he did his swansong! 

[Dustin]

Not to interfere with Logan Lucky...well, that's not terribly likely, regardless if they announce him with BOND 25 or not. Actors tend to be miffed when they do their promo work and all their counterparts are really interested in is another project altogether. And you definitely pick up on the vibes even if your assistant declares the topic off-limits.

BOND 25 and two more films? Shot and released in quick succession? Yes, take my money...

No really, this is almost guaranteed to earn an adventurous betting soul a fortune. Must be punters disease that made this rumour run.

[Surrie]

Not to interfere with Logan Lucky...well, that's not terribly likely, regardless if they announce him with BOND 25 or not. Actors tend to be miffed when they do their promo work and all their counterparts are really interested in is another project altogether. And you definitely pick up on the vibes even if your assistant declares the topic off-limits.

BOND 25 and two more films? Shot and released in quick succession? Yes, take my money...

No really, this is almost guaranteed to earn an adventurous betting soul a fortune. Must be punters disease that made this rumour run.

 

Sorry, Bond 25 + one more in quick succession... that's the rumour mill though. 

[Dustin]

Not to interfere with Logan Lucky...well, that's not terribly likely, regardless if they announce him with BOND 25 or not. Actors tend to be miffed when they do their promo work and all their counterparts are really interested in is another project altogether. And you definitely pick up on the vibes even if your assistant declares the topic off-limits.

BOND 25 and two more films? Shot and released in quick succession? Yes, take my money...

No really, this is almost guaranteed to earn an adventurous betting soul a fortune. Must be punters disease that made this rumour run.

Sorry, Bond 25 + one more in quick succession... that's the rumour mill though.

Not to worry. Still seems fantastically optimistic.

[tdalton]

 

Not to interfere with Logan Lucky...well, that's not terribly likely, regardless if they announce him with BOND 25 or not. Actors tend to be miffed when they do their promo work and all their counterparts are really interested in is another project altogether. And you definitely pick up on the vibes even if your assistant declares the topic off-limits.

BOND 25 and two more films? Shot and released in quick succession? Yes, take my money...

No really, this is almost guaranteed to earn an adventurous betting soul a fortune. Must be punters disease that made this rumour run.

 

Sorry, Bond 25 + one more in quick succession... that's the rumour mill though. 

 

 

Yeah, there's no way that's happening.