Commander
Posted 30 October 2015 - 02:32 PM
Commander
Posted 30 October 2015 - 02:57 PM
I thought we could use this thread for the "boring" side of things and keep an eye on how well 'SPECTRE' does at the box-office in the UK and around the world and how it fares with 'Skyfall' and the competition. So far, it's broken UK records for a Tuesday.
Lieutenant
Posted 30 October 2015 - 03:07 PM
it depends what age of 'kids' we're talking about . Now that i think about it, here in the U.S. i havn't seen kids younger than late- teens at a james bond film during the Craig or Brosnan era's
Edited by FlemingBond, 30 October 2015 - 03:08 PM.
Commander RNVR
Posted 30 October 2015 - 05:00 PM
I thought we could use this thread for the "boring" side of things and keep an eye on how well 'SPECTRE' does at the box-office in the UK and around the world and how it fares with 'Skyfall' and the competition. So far, it's broken UK records for a Tuesday.
A darned good reason why it was released on Monday 26th October - same time as premiere?
In most parts of the UK it is half term week. Boost from kids off school, along with some parents off work and grandparents available to take to flicks with kids?
Ah that explains. Was at the 12.30 screening at the Odeon Leicester Square yesterday (had to see it a second time before catching he flight home) and I was amazed that the cinema was almost fully packed and that there were so many young folks. "Don't hey have to be at school at this time?" I thought 
Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 09:46 AM
Word is, that as of end of business Friday in the U.K. - £27.5m ($41.5m) which is huge.
On track for a £40m ($60m) opening 6.5 days.
Lt. Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 04:51 PM
Edited by 00Hockey Mask, 01 November 2015 - 05:03 PM.
Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 07:16 PM
There is little or no reason for inflation adjusted figures as in the 60's people did not go around saying, 'I will wait for the DVD release.'
The ONLY way to see the film in those days was IN the cinema - so people went.
To my mind, inflation adjusted figures for a series as long as the Bond series may only begin to make sense by decade.
Lt. Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 07:25 PM
No offense but that is ridiculous. You can take what you want from the list but there are hundreds of things that differ from one generation to the next...multiplexes, advertising, video games, population, DVD...There is little or no reason for inflation adjusted figures as in the 60's people did not go around saying, 'I will wait for the DVD release.'
The ONLY way to see the film in those days was IN the cinema - so people went.
To my mind, inflation adjusted figures for a series as long as the Bond series may only begin to make sense by decade.
Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 07:26 PM
Ah that explains. Was at the 12.30 screening at the Odeon Leicester Square yesterday (had to see it a second time before catching he flight home) and I was amazed that the cinema was almost fully packed and that there were so many young folks. "Don't hey have to be at school at this time?" I thoughtI thought we could use this thread for the "boring" side of things and keep an eye on how well 'SPECTRE' does at the box-office in the UK and around the world and how it fares with 'Skyfall' and the competition. So far, it's broken UK records for a Tuesday.
A darned good reason why it was released on Monday 26th October - same time as premiere?
In most parts of the UK it is half term week. Boost from kids off school, along with some parents off work and grandparents available to take to flicks with kids?
Lt. Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 07:33 PM
Edited by 00Hockey Mask, 01 November 2015 - 07:35 PM.
Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 09:13 PM
But Hockey man, your list of variations only makes the desire to compare even more ridiculous. You are actually supporting my argument.
If population varies so much, then, right there is one huge factor to make comparing a 1960's box office take to a 2010's BO take completely irrelevant.
My main point was, comparing 1960 to 2010 is pointless. The factors that make it so are Not confined only to DVD, but also to the many factors you allude to.
I could also cite a liking for modern day audiences to get more of a kick out of wrecking bus shelters as an alternate form of entertainment to that which a cinematic Bond film offers...
Lt. Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 09:32 PM
Edited by 00Hockey Mask, 01 November 2015 - 10:40 PM.
Commander RNVR
Posted 01 November 2015 - 10:21 PM
Ah that explains. Was at the 12.30 screening at the Odeon Leicester Square yesterday (had to see it a second time before catching he flight home) and I was amazed that the cinema was almost fully packed and that there were so many young folks. "Don't hey have to be at school at this time?" I thought
I thought we could use this thread for the "boring" side of things and keep an eye on how well 'SPECTRE' does at the box-office in the UK and around the world and how it fares with 'Skyfall' and the competition. So far, it's broken UK records for a Tuesday.
A darned good reason why it was released on Monday 26th October - same time as premiere?
In most parts of the UK it is half term week. Boost from kids off school, along with some parents off work and grandparents available to take to flicks with kids?
You've got it! Half term in most of UK (might be half term for bits that weren't last week this coming week!) There is method in the "madness" of opening in the UK on the last Monday in October, instead of the usual long weekend!
Incidentally stromberg my congratulations because;
Spoiler
Someone noticed 
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I had various theories, but when it was finally resolved in the movie, I knew that it was on my list. What I didn't expect was
Lieutenant
Posted 01 November 2015 - 10:31 PM
But an unadjusted list is far more deceptive when Skyfall made five times the money over Thunderball but sold half the tickets. The truth is far closer to the unadjusted numbers.
Unadjusted numbers give you one "truth" and that is tickets sold.
Don't you mean adjusted numbers give you tickets sold? That's the purpose of inflation-adjusted figures for ticket sales, after all...
Comparing adjusted figures is fun! But yes, it does have it's problems. In the 60s, there were far fewer cinemas in America, making it difficult for portions of the population to see a Bond film; at the same time, everyone had to go to the cinema to see a Bond movie. There are many more films released annually now than back then; but marketing is much more potent and studios spend significantly more on it than they did in the 60s. So is it all swings-and-roundabouts?
Lt. Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 10:40 PM
Yes. Adjusted. Thanks.But an unadjusted list is far more deceptive when Skyfall made five times the money over Thunderball but sold half the tickets. The truth is far closer to the unadjusted numbers.
Unadjusted numbers give you one "truth" and that is tickets sold.
Don't you mean adjusted numbers give you tickets sold? That's the purpose of inflation-adjusted figures for ticket sales, after all...
Comparing adjusted figures is fun! But yes, it does have it's problems. In the 60s, there were far fewer cinemas in America, making it difficult for portions of the population to see a Bond film; at the same time, everyone had to go to the cinema to see a Bond movie. There are many more films released annually now than back then; but marketing is much more potent and studios spend significantly more on it than they did in the 60s. So is it all swings-and-roundabouts?
Lt. Commander
Posted 01 November 2015 - 11:46 PM
Edited by 00Hockey Mask, 01 November 2015 - 11:46 PM.
Commander
Posted 02 November 2015 - 12:04 AM
I am sure comparing takings and figures over the decades might be fun, in some senses. But if the deemed worth is to actually tell one something of meaning and merit, and for the figures to actually tell a story, then it is a completely pointless exercise.
The numerous variables are completely incalculable since they are subject to such wide ranging evolutions in the populace.
One might as well study if telecoms companies are more successful now than in the 60s? Inflation adjust that one.
Midshipman
Posted 02 November 2015 - 03:29 AM
If they can make Star Wars and the Marvel movies into annual installments, can we please get more Bond? I don't want to wait 3-4 years every time. 
Commander
Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:29 AM
Does the box office really mean anything?
I mean how do they account for things like populstion growth and number of theaters, etc?
Commander
Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:22 AM
It means the new Bond is a huge hit, on course to best even SKYFALL.
Which is good news for future endeavours, obviously.
Commander
Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:25 AM
I think the general public will get more overall entertainment from 'SPECTRE' than 'Skyfall'. For casual fans and film lovers, this does deliver lots of the ticks they may want to see from a DC Bond film.
It's us hardcore fans who pick apart things the most, but generally I think it's very appealing and on course to do well for the UK. It's already nearly half-way to the total of 'Skyfall' in just its first week.
Commander
Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:30 AM
It means the new Bond is a huge hit, on course to best even SKYFALL.
That would be something special if it could. I guess it's not impossible. Thunderball had a solid box-office run after Goldfinger's glowingly positive reception.
Lt. Commander
Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:12 PM
Commander
Posted 03 November 2015 - 03:32 AM
I have had my doubts that it will top Skyfall due to the massive exposure due to the olympics but I'm hopeful.
It's had a solid start - it's all obviously about sustaining that effort. It'll be interesting when the international box-office comes into play.
Commander
Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:19 AM
In the American scheme of things, we Are the International box office...
Commander
Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:26 AM
Going by the Sony leaks, execs are expecting around $200million domestic and $500million international.
Commander
Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:29 AM
'Skyfall' had a whole year of marketing both consciously and subconsciously to the globe thanks to the 50th Anniversary. So much Bond fever swept the world and 'Skyfall' was the ultimate celebration of that year and the series for people to immerse themselves in. Nothing will top that. It'd be interesting to see what the film would have taken without the 50th Anniversary year backing it up.
Commander
Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:49 AM
'Skyfall' had a whole year of marketing both consciously and subconsciously to the globe thanks to the 50th Anniversary. So much Bond fever swept the world and 'Skyfall' was the ultimate celebration of that year and the series for people to immerse themselves in. Nothing will top that. It'd be interesting to see what the film would have taken without the 50th Anniversary year backing it up.
It wasn't just necessarily the 50th Anniversary, but the overall marketing was top notch. I couldn't go anywhere or see anything without running into Skyfall.
With Spectre, it only feels as if the marketing has just kicked in full blown within the last month reminding everyone about a new Bond film.
Lieutenant
Posted 06 November 2015 - 12:38 AM
Going by the Sony leaks, execs are expecting around $200million domestic and $500million international.
So they're expecting a worldwide total of $700m? Interesting, no wonder they were so concerned about the budget. I'm betting $880m worldwide 
Lieutenant
Posted 06 November 2015 - 02:54 AM
Skyfall got great reviews and word of mouth which helped it keep going for several weeks. we've yet to see if that will play out again