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The Spectre Gunbarrel and Bond Theme usage?


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#181 Professor Pi

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 12:28 PM

Nor am I.  But I mean EON's series versus the 'they' who used Blofeld and LeChiffre in NSNA and CR67.  So "original" or "official"--either works.

 

I really wasn't into them bringing Blofeld back two years ago, but am excited for it now.  It's a character EON has never fully got right, nor really killed for sure onscreen.  Did he survive DAF?  Probably didn't survive FYEO, but EON films are often vague about some things.



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Posted 14 November 2015 - 11:11 PM

I would have preferred the twangy guitar over the TND/TWINE type cue, but hey, I'll take it. Looks great (and makes the SF gunbarrel look even worse by comparison) and I like the subtitle about "The dead are..."

 

STILL didn't get the theme blaring over an action sequence though. GRRR. I think the car chase would have been improved with some of that twangy guitar JB theme as well. In fact, I don't think we heard the guitar bit of the JB theme at all this time out- did we?

 

EDIT: Yes we did - it was in the JB theme heard over the end titles.


Edited by dtuba, 17 November 2015 - 10:43 AM.


#183 Von Hammerstein

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 12:52 AM

I've seen Spectre twice in 2 different states and both times the audience cheered when the gun barrel appeared back in it's rightful place before the PTS.  Spectre is Craig's closest to a classic Bond film, much better than QOS and superior to even to Skyfall.



#184 sharpshooter

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 08:39 AM

I liked the build-up over the logos, and the blaring theme over the black screen. It really set the tone.



#185 mattjoes

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:23 PM

It's Craig's best gunbarrel. Classic design, great walk and turn that reminded me of Connery. I'm growing to like how he doesn't hide the gun; it's arrogant in the right way.

 

The music is appropriate but the arrangement is typical by now. We need a different sound from film to film. Newman did a good job with the score (I even like how he reused certain themes), but its sound is a bit too close to Skyfall's.


Edited by mattjoes, 19 November 2015 - 04:24 PM.


#186 AMC Hornet

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 08:24 PM

How many of the posters who've criticized Newman's re-using cues from Skyfall are the same posters who long to hear Barry's '007' theme re-used again?



#187 Mr Teddy Bear

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 11:36 PM

How many of the posters who've criticized Newman's re-using cues from Skyfall are the same posters who long to hear Barry's '007' theme re-used again?

 

Each time Barry used the 007 theme, it had it's own flair and flavour, while Newman reused his previous cues near verbatim. It didn't bother me, but I can see why it rubbed some people up the wrong way.



#188 AMC Hornet

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Posted 21 November 2015 - 04:09 AM

I haven't even noticed the similarities, as Skyfall isn't one of the scores I listen to much. There are so many short and long tracks on the last four albums that I just picked a few favorites and put them in a 'best of' playlist and disregarded the rest.

 

The advantage of doing that is, when Craig's era becomes vintage classic Bond, I can rediscover the scores all over again, like when the expanded scores were reissued recently.



#189 Professor Pi

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Posted 21 November 2015 - 11:52 AM

I'm willing to forgive Newman a bit on some of the 're-cues' as I think he was pressed for time more than making lazy artistic choices (those last 3-4 tracks especially, and they go on forever.)  I'd have preferred a James Bond theme, maybe even the original arrangement to underscore the back to Bond formula feel of Spectre than all the Skyfall rehash/recycle going on.  I am enjoying a lot of his new cues--The Pale King and the first three minutes of Backfire.  But the ejector seat was a clear call for a blaring Bond theme, not Grand Bazaar again.

 

David Arnold's scores varied much more from film to film, especially the percussive techno of TWINE/DAD to the spare and restraint in the CR/QoS scores. 

 

But something Bond composers other than Barry and Arnold have done really well is capture the feel of a location.  Martin's Live and Let Die, Hamlisch's Spy Who Loved Me, and Kamen's Licence to Kill in particular.



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Posted 24 February 2016 - 12:35 AM

Watching the BluRay of Spectre today, I was struck by just how yellow the gunbarrel is.

 

It's quite distracting now that I've noticed it.



#191 Gobi-1

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 08:24 AM

Watching the BluRay of Spectre today, I was struck by just how yellow the gunbarrel is.

 

It's quite distracting now that I've noticed it.

 

It's VERY yellow. I'm currently working on a fan video and I color corrected the Spectre gunbarrel for that very reason.

 

From the Blu-Ray

 

Yellow_Barrel.jpg

 

My Color Correction

 

White_Barrel.jpg

 

Looking at Spectre while I've been editing has made me really hate the color graded they used throughout the film. I ended up color correcting all the Spectre footage I'm using for my video.



#192 RMc2

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Posted 24 February 2016 - 04:33 PM

 

Watching the BluRay of Spectre today, I was struck by just how yellow the gunbarrel is.

 

It's quite distracting now that I've noticed it.

 

It's VERY yellow. I'm currently working on a fan video and I color corrected the Spectre gunbarrel for that very reason.

 

From the Blu-Ray

 

Yellow_Barrel.jpg

 

My Color Correction

 

White_Barrel.jpg

 

Looking at Spectre while I've been editing has made me really hate the color graded they used throughout the film. I ended up color correcting all the Spectre footage I'm using for my video.

 

 

That's a lovely colour correction there! What software do you use?

 

Please post a link to you video when it's done :)



#193 Gobi-1

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Posted 06 March 2016 - 10:10 PM

Here it is. The Gunbarrel is at the beginning.

 



#194 Walecs

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 11:46 AM

What the...?



#195 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 12:25 PM

Well seeing how sickly the original gunbarrel is compared to your edit Gobi-1, it makes me sad they didn't do that in the first place. Ugh.

 

AND the juxtaposition of Billy Ocean and the 007 cars proved to be a wonderful little music video there. :P



#196 RMc2

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 11:58 PM

Here it is. The Gunbarrel is at the beginning.

 

 

That, sir, is an excellent montage :)



#197 Hockey Mask

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 08:03 PM

Here it is. The Gunbarrel is at the beginning.


That was awesome! More work in it than may first appear. New slide whistle scene! Lady driver. Get in the backseat. Enjoyed the beep beeps too.

Edited by Hockey Mask, 09 March 2016 - 08:09 PM.


#198 DABOY

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:26 AM

I tried to recreate the gunbarrel to better fit the original 1962-2002 style as closely as I possibly could.

 



#199 DaveBond21

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Posted 17 March 2016 - 12:05 AM

I'm not an expert on the gunbarrels, but which one from the past does it resemble the most? Is it the Roger Moore era?



#200 mattjoes

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 02:02 AM

It's the just the classic gunbarrel design, but cleaned up so that the lighter parts are essentially textureless. In terms of how the sequence plays out, the fade out at the end reminds me of the From Russia with Love gunbarrel, because the circle doesn't lead into the first shot.


Edited by mattjoes, 19 March 2016 - 02:05 AM.