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#121 Shrublands

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 02:09 PM

My bet is on the press conference being held on 4th December. 



#122 Simon

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 02:35 PM

I sincerely hope Blofeld stays in the past.  Trading on DB5s and nemises-old really should be left IN the past.

 

And I am also not really expectant of nor looking forwards to the press conference.  15 minutes of absolutely no answers, half truths and denials has left me cynical.

 

I also hate Christmas and occasionally kick the cat.



#123 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 02:59 PM

My bet is on the press conference being held on 4th December. 

I'm going the say the day before, December 5th.

 

We shall see, Shrublands! :P



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Posted 24 November 2014 - 03:39 PM

I'm not really for bringing Blofeld back because it's rewriting Bond history again, this time in the biggest way. Plus with Craig down to his last 2 films probably bringing in Blofeld now if he's going to be a recurring nemesis doesn't make so much sense to me.



#125 DaveBond21

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 09:30 PM

Even if Blofeld is in the movie, they won't announce it in the press conference.



#126 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 05:52 AM

According to the news ticker on my personal facebook, several sites are now reporting that Waltz is playing Blofeld. Hmmm.



#127 SPECTRE ASSASSIN

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:04 AM

Until he is confirmed to play Blofeld or not the filmmakers will obviously not share the same character traits from previous Blofelds like being bald, scar, white cat etc (Blame Mike Myers). But if there is one actor who can make this character interesting it's Waltz. Especially if the role is well-written.

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:29 AM

I'm not saying it's been confirmed, but rather interesting seeing it being "confirmed" by all these sites that are just essentially reporting the same thing.

 

One thing is for sure, if Waltz IS to play Blofeld, should he shave his head bald, he'll certainly look rather menacing. Seeing him in The Zero Theorem, I couldn't stop thinking how unnerving he looked bald, compared to having hair. He just looked creepy, even though his character was this eccentric, mathematician.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:35 AM

Until he is confirmed to play Blofeld or not the filmmakers will obviously not share the same character traits from previous Blofelds like being bald, scar, white cat etc (Blame Mike Myers). But if there is one actor who can make this character interesting it's Waltz. Especially if the role is well-written.

Exactly right.



#130 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:35 AM

Did anybody report that Waltz is contracted for more than one film?  Because if he indeed is the rebooted Blofeld he would have to stick around, woulndn´t he?

 

I wonder if Craig´s last Bond will feature a rebooted Tracy then...



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:57 AM

Did anybody report that Waltz is contracted for more than one film?  Because if he indeed is the rebooted Blofeld he would have to stick around, woulndn´t he?

 

I wonder if Craig´s last Bond will feature a rebooted Tracy then...

That is interesting, and as far as I know, he hasn't been contracted for more than one. Maybe he has, and it just isn't being reported and is being help tightly under wraps, but I think this is potentially a one film for him.



#132 sharpshooter

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 07:08 AM

Even if Blofeld is in the movie, they won't announce it in the press conference.

Indeed. It will be Eve Moneypenny all over again.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 07:40 AM

But if he indeed turns out to be Blofeld, I sincerely hope that this time they won´t have a new Blofeld time and again.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 08:09 AM

But if he indeed turns out to be Blofeld, I sincerely hope that this time they won´t have a new Blofeld time and again.

 

I agree. And if he does indeed reappear in Bond 25, which could be Craig's last, it would be interesting to see how they handle things. I think Waltz/Blofeld could leave the series presumed dead or something like that after some epic confrontation.



#135 Simon

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 11:05 AM

I personally hope he isn't Blofeld, or indeed any recurring past villain.  The expectation will be bloody overwhelmingly high, and there will bound to be disappointment.

 

Rather he creates his own fresh villain - if in fact he is a villain.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 12:34 PM

Let's hope he has a confrontation with Bond and gets a nasty open wound on his right eye leaving a nice scar.  :)



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 12:47 PM

I'm usually one of the first to say move forward, but a new interpretation of Blofeld doesn't bother me. If anything, it excites me. Who would have thought we'd even be entertaining this idea in 2015? It's been a massive time between drinks. I think a Waltz interpretation of Blofeld can be excellent in its own right, with or without that iconic name attached. I highly doubt the Dr Evil parody would even enter the equation. The producers know of this and would obviously steer clear. 



#138 Shrublands

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:18 PM

If Blofeld is in this, I'd imagine that the bald head, scar and Nehru jacket will be gone. 

But could they resist the Turkish Angora Cat?

 

I could see a scenario where the cat turns up later in the film, once we've seen a fair bit of Blofeld without it.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:30 PM

He could sell information to both sides, ala his origins in the novels. This could link up with the 'friend/foe/bit of both' comments from Baz. 



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 03:37 PM

I personally hope he isn't Blofeld, or indeed any recurring past villain.  The expectation will be bloody overwhelmingly high, and there will bound to be disappointment.

 

Rather he creates his own fresh villain - if in fact he is a villain.

 

I also really hope it's not Blofeld because I would love to see a new villain because that's always nice. If he does turn out to be Blofeld, I won't be too upset because I do love him in pretty much any role or movie that he is in.

 

If Blofeld is in this, I'd imagine that the bald head, scar and Nehru jacket will be gone. 

But could they resist the Turkish Angora Cat?

 

I could see a scenario where the cat turns up later in the film, once we've seen a fair bit of Blofeld without it.

 

 

I could totally picture him holding a cat.. if this happens.. I am going to be excited. Let's hope the cat comes back if Blofeld does.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 04:36 PM

Blofeld is not just iconic for James Bond but for cinematic villainy as a whole, and like you say, in 2015, to see him back on screen would be magnificent amidst a host of screen villains who have so much influence from him in some shape or form.

 

Come on EON...we showed you 'Skyfall' still had 007 going in the 21st century now let's have a little present to say thanks! ;)



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 05:17 PM

I'm not a fan of bringing Blofeld back either. I'd like to see some fresh ideas rather than having the same story told again and again. Unless of course Eon has a clear and imaginative vision of using him to deepen Bond's character. And not repeating Vesper's scheme at the same time - the natural consequence of having Blofeld back would be reintroducing Tracy as well. For me, Bond losing two of the women he loved in little over one decade.. it's to soon.
Anyway, let's hope that there is something more behind the idea than marketing considerations and lack of inspiration.

Edited by Marcin, 25 November 2014 - 05:24 PM.


#143 The Dove

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:10 PM

Well at least I think we can all agree 100% that will NOT be having a Charles Gray, Blofeld-in-an-old lady-with-wig and makeup villain.. LOL :P 

 

EON certainly would not be re-hashing the same old Blofeld from years past, so I'm fully expecting them to have something unique and original which will be a welcome aspect to the character.. Seriously, I don't get all the griping and whinging about this.. Did people complain about bringing Gen. Zod back for Man of Steel (horrible movie anyways, in my opinion), or where where the complainers for all the villains in The Dark Knight movies? And people certainly were NOT bitiching about the Aston Martin DB5 returning in Skyfall..in all four of my theatrical viewings that scene ALWAYS got a huge round of applause! 

 

This being said, I do have great respect for everyone here and their opinions..lets just wait with excitement and see what EON has for us. If the movie turns out to suck because Christoph Waltz's villain, whoever he may be, fails to live up to expectations then we can voice our irritations.

 

Let them have the character for Bond 24, kill him off and them move onto someone new for Bond 25. Blofeld doesn't have to return afterwards, necessisarily.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:34 PM

Remember, it appears that when the script idea was first forwarded to the-powers-that-be their immediate notion was "this should be a two film story". It seems that Mendes persuaded them otherwise.

 

But what could have made them think that in the first place? I'd say that a story that told of rise and fall of James Bond's archenemy, Blofeld could well have been it. 



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:41 PM

One more thing. In my opinion it would be a mistake not to connect Quantum with SPECTRE somehow. After all, the world is not big enough for two transnational villainous organizations that no one has ever heard of and have people everywhere :). It doesn't even have to be explained verbatim — a simple suggestion, like Blofeld saying something like "You look surprised, Mr. Bond. After all you've encountered one of our initiative before.." would do fine.

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:43 PM

Maybe Logan had too much Blofeld between the two films and Mendes found a way to cut it way down. The result is a one film arc but not something Logan could work with, resulting in their parting of ways. I wonder if we'll get any insight into who is being credited with writing it at the conference.

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:59 PM

 

But if he indeed turns out to be Blofeld, I sincerely hope that this time they won´t have a new Blofeld time and again.

 

I agree. And if he does indeed reappear in Bond 25, which could be Craig's last, it would be interesting to see how they handle things. I think Waltz/Blofeld could leave the series presumed dead or something like that after some epic confrontation.

 

If Blofeld does return, I would not want him to be 'presumed dead.' That's what happened the first time because EON lost the rights to the character. Give him a proper ending. Hopefully at the Castle of Death. Now that I think about it, what kind of an ending what that be for the Craig era? Bond kills Blofeld with his bare hands and is presumed KIA by his superiors after he suffers amnesia escaping from the Castle of Death. Then in the PTS for Bond 26, he shows up and attempts to assassinate M....



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 07:03 PM

 

 

But if he indeed turns out to be Blofeld, I sincerely hope that this time they won´t have a new Blofeld time and again.

 

I agree. And if he does indeed reappear in Bond 25, which could be Craig's last, it would be interesting to see how they handle things. I think Waltz/Blofeld could leave the series presumed dead or something like that after some epic confrontation.

 

If Blofeld does return, I would not want him to be 'presumed dead.' That's what happened the first time because EON lost the rights to the character. Give him a proper ending. Hopefully at the Castle of Death. Now that I think about it, what kind of an ending what that be for the Craig era? Bond kills Blofeld with his bare hands and is presumed KIA by his superiors after he suffers amnesia escaping from the Castle of Death. Then in the PTS for Bond 26, he shows up and attempts to assassinate M....

 

 

Yes, it would be just wonderful if the Craig era ended like that.



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 07:56 PM

Do you guy really believe Waltz will play Blofeld or that Blofeld will be the film's villain?

If so, I've got some swamp land I can sell you...

For those of you who have short memories, three years ago around this time fan forums were all abuzz that Ralph Fiennes or Michael Sheen were going to play... Blofeld. Don't believe me? Do a google search. Oh yeah, and Javier Bardem was going to be a rebooted Jaws. He had the looks, so it was said.

I'll *almost* guarantee you that Blofeld will NOT be in this film.

Bringing back Blofeld is a dumb move. A fan-boy dumb move. Only fan-boys want it.

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 08:15 PM

Yes, this fan-boy certainly does want it! I can think of nothing better.