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[The Dove]

I'm sure it will eventually grow on me but I see it working better in the context of the film, matched with Daniel Klienmen's credits, then as a piece that stands on it's own.

My thoughts exactly, Gobi-1..

[sharpshooter]

I'm sure it will eventually grow on me but I see it working better in the context of the film, matched with Daniel Klienmen's credits, then as a piece that stands on it's own.

Like 'Die Another Day', maybe. I thought that worked very well with the title sequence.

[Hockey Mask]

I'm sure it will eventually grow on me but I see it working better in the context of the film, matched with Daniel Klienmen's credits, then as a piece that stands on it's own.

100% agree. And I thought was pretty evident after hearing the 15 second sneak preview.

You put that song against the Casino Royale credits and I bet it works very well.

Edited by 00Hockey Mask, 25 September 2015 - 07:29 AM.

[Shrublands]

Is the song referring to Bond's feelings about Swann, perhaps?

 

I'd agree with that idea.

The song is a bit of a surprise, nothing like the intro would suggest. It's growing on me now I'm getting used to it.

[Vauxhall]

"I never shoot to miss, but I feel like a storm is coming"

 

We know Sam Smith has sight of the script before writing the song - a reference above to 007 being, in Mr White's words "a kite dancing in a hurricane"?

 

Guess it could be. 

 

Also reminded me of the fact Bond says the line "there's a storm coming" in SKYFALL (and there's a very similar line in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES).

[thecasinoroyale]

Thing is, this isn't a Bond song - it's a Sam Smith song and will ride on his name alone.

 

I like the lyrics and the meaning behind them, but his voice isn't right to me and I doubt it'll grow on me sadly. I'll listen to it when I have to but I won't go out of my way.

 

 

 

 

....and it's only going on the iPod later as it's my duty as a 007 fan to have all the songs in my collection.

[sharpshooter]

The song is a bit of a surprise, nothing like the intro would suggest. It's growing on me now I'm getting used to it.

Me too, actually. Getting used to the structure and tone helps a lot. 

[The Shark]

You put that song against the Casino Royale credits and I bet it works very well.

I think the only thing getting in the way of that is the end of the chorus when Smith switches from chest voice to falsetto ("How do I live"). It's tender but I can't imagine it with any images of Bond shooting rotoscoped heavies, let alone skulls and octopuses. Maybe Bond saving a basket of kittens.

I think the closest parallel in the Bond theme canon would be For Your Eyes Only.

[007jamesbond]

I do wonder if the song was sung by a female singer would it sound better 

[thecasinoroyale]

I wonder how the credits will look. Nothing nightmarish as 'Skyfall' I expect.

 

And a music video? Probably have Sam singing in that dark, dingy place where Bond finds his name on the wall.

[Jim]

Liking that. Does go on a bit though.

[PPK_19]

A lot of negativity on Twitter about the song. People saying stuff like "nails on a chalkboard" and "awful lyrics"

[sharpshooter]

I wonder how the credits will look. Nothing nightmarish as 'Skyfall' I expect.

I think the titles could be reflective. Pensive. 

[Marcin]

Perhaps it's a ridiculous question but I wonder if the lyrics are related to the plot in any way? I mean, was Sam Smith simply told to write words that match the music, or was he briefed with the story, hence "I've spent a lifetime running; And I always get away; But with you I'm feeling something;That makes me want to stay" and "How do I live; How do I breathe; When you're not here I'm suffocating; I want to feel love run through my blood; Tell me is this where I give it all up".

[sharpshooter]

The lyrics do relate to the plot, from what I know.

[thecasinoroyale]

Gutted he didn't mention a 'spectre' or anything. 

[KM16]

It's a nice little love song. No doubt fits in with the OHMSS redux theme this film seemingly has going for it. I imagine this is the Bond producers 21'st century response to We Have All the Time in the World.

[sharpshooter]

For the Craig era, I still greatly prefer YKMN and SF. But upon consideration, I do think this is better than AWTD. Some of the falsetto I'm not terribly fond about. But it's far from a disaster. I do think it's a grower. 

[iexpectu2die]

I do wonder if the song was sung by a female singer would it sound better

More conventional, perhaps.

[Karloff]

Okey. So there is good stuff and bad stuff. The orchestral arrangements are great and really feel like a classic Bond. The lyrics are good. The overall melody of the vocals are good as well. The chorus is interesting. It isn't bombastic at all, but probably the most low-key part of the song. But... I don't really like his voice. It's OK in his other songs, but with the bombastic Bond-like orchestra in the background he sounds like Mickey Mouse when he switches over to the falsetto. His powers his voice with his noise, not his stomach. I would have preferred if he sang the whole song with his normal voice, which has a much powerful tone. I hope it grows on me, but for the moment I'm a bit disappointed.

 

But i still hope that Newman will use the song in the score of the film. 

Edited by Karloff, 25 September 2015 - 07:48 AM.

[dirtymind]

This was always going to have mixed reactions. It's Sam Smith.

[The Dove]

*Shudder* That high part in the chorus.. Sounds like Mickey Mouse singing...

(Ahh I see you and I are thinking along the same lines, Karloff)

[Jim]

The lyrics do relate to the plot, from what I know.

 

Spoiler

I wonder how much (I never did see the leaks, and don't want to know). But if what I understand of what I've unavoidably been subjected to is correct, this isn't just the theme for the film, it's the theme of the film.

[thecasinoroyale]

If it is reflective of the film itself,  as most songs are, I don't know if it's good or not Bond is getting so sentimental and romantic in his career! It's all very....dramatically romantic for 007.

[sharpshooter]

 

The lyrics do relate to the plot, from what I know.

 

Spoiler

I wonder how much (I never did see the leaks, and don't want to know). But if what I understand of what I've unavoidably been subjected to is correct, this isn't just the theme for the film, it's the theme of the film.

 

Spoiler

I think so as well. I think this piece of dialogue "they say you're finished - I think you're just getting started" is quite telling. That could be the dilemma Bond faces. Does he keep running or does he stop to smell the roses?

[The Shark]

Perhaps it's a ridiculous question but I wonder if the lyrics are related to the plot in any way? I mean, was Sam Smith simply told to write words that match the music, or was he briefed with the story, hence "I've spent a lifetime running; And I always get away; But with you I'm feeling something;That makes me want to stay" and "How do I live; How do I breathe; When you're not here I'm suffocating; I want to feel love run through my blood; Tell me is this where I give it all up".

He read the screenplay.

[Shaun Forever]

It's not bad, I just think it lacks that killer chorus, you are waiting for it to get going, and it never really does.

 

 

Still, that's on one hearing, I'm sure it will grow.

[thecasinoroyale]

Maybe Bond still longs for Vesper.

[SecretAgentFan]

I´m loving it now.  And it is absolutely a Bond film song.  However, it is very different from most of them, in its conception as a lament (great word, I know) even original.

 

And now people probably want something less original.

 

But that´s the thing with Bond songs - they will always divide people.

[Logie]

I see Sir Roger's given it a thumbs-up on Twitter, although it must be said he appears to be in the minority. Quite a few saying it reminds them of Michael Jacksons 'Earth Song' - even Radio 1 are having a little dig!

 

https://twitter.com/...313013293215744