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[x007AceOfSpades]

Wan has only directed two good film. 'Saw' and 'Death Sentence'. Choosing him is a TERRIBLE idea.

[tdalton]

He's a dramatic improvement over Lin, who has never directed a good film.  

 

Wan's misfires as a director come down more to the scripts that he and Leigh Whannel put together.  When they put together good scripts, his films turn out well.  Saw is miles better than anything in Justin Lin's filmography.  

[x007AceOfSpades]

Dead Silence - Meh
Insidious - complete garbage

The Conjuring - Looks like complete garbage

 

Justin Lin has directed a good film, 'Fast Five'. It's easily the most fun and entertaining film in the Fast & Furious series since the first film.

 

But to think Saw is better than Fast Five is just absurd.

[tdalton]

I'll take an original concept like Saw, that's reasonably well made, over derivative franchise fodder like Fast Five.  

 

Fast Five, just like Tokyo Drift and Fast & Furious is terrible.  

[S K Y F A L L]

Saw sucks my balls. 

[x007AceOfSpades]

An original concept that quickly became stale after the third entry and is nothing more than torture porn. Well  made, yes, absolutely.

 

I'm curious as to how Fast Five is terrible in your opinion.

[tdalton]

An original concept that quickly became stale after the third entry and is nothing more than torture porn. Well  made, yes, absolutely.

 

But we're simply talking about James Wan's directing ability, aren't we?  Wan's involvement from a creative standpoint ended with the original film, so he's not really involved with the Saw franchise as a creative force.  The films became a franchise under director Darren Lynn Bousman with a script written by Bousman and Saw writer/co-star Leigh Whannel for Saw II.  If Wan did a solid job of directing the film, it doesn't really matter what the content of the film was if we're just assessing his skills as a director.  

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I'm curious as to how Fast Five is terrible in your opinion.

 

I have the same criticisms for it that I have for the other Lin-directed F&F films.  All of Lin's F&F films are basically just Michael Bay-type videogame movies, except without the "skill" that Bay demonstrates in his films.  As they were in Fast & Furious, the leads seem to be there simply to collect a paycheck, and the additions to the cast, mainly in the form of The Rock, feel as though they're done simply to grow the brand, and it simply just feels like the series has strayed a very long ways from the original, which was actually a pretty decent car movie.  

 

I will say, though, that the Rio location was pretty good.

Edited by tdalton, 13 April 2013 - 10:37 PM.

[S K Y F A L L]

I'm a sucker for the fast and furious films. I was in high school when the first one came out, so there is a lot of nostalgia that comes with it. I'm able to just laugh at the corny parts and enjoy the rest. I think its interesting how they have gone from racing to when we thought it was all over with TOKYO DRIFT then turn the series into heist type films with Fast Five and now they are talking about a Rock spin off. Just the titles of the films are interesting to me; 2 Fast 2 Furious, Fast Five. I thought Furious 6 would have been an alright title but I'm sure the producers insisted that it be FAF6.  I wonder what they will call the Rock spin off,...  FAF:SUV Edition? 

[S K Y F A L L]

[seawolfnyy]

First trailer for Catching Fire. Looks promising, but I think this trailer gives too much away.

http://www.ign.com/a...s-catching-fire

[Iceskater101]

I can't wait for this movie!

[x007AceOfSpades]

An original concept that quickly became stale after the third entry and is nothing more than torture porn. Well  made, yes, absolutely.

 

But we're simply talking about James Wan's directing ability, aren't we?  Wan's involvement from a creative standpoint ended with the original film, so he's not really involved with the Saw franchise as a creative force.  The films became a franchise under director Darren Lynn Bousman with a script written by Bousman and Saw writer/co-star Leigh Whannel for Saw II.  If Wan did a solid job of directing the film, it doesn't really matter what the content of the film was if we're just assessing his skills as a director.  

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>I'm curious as to how Fast Five is terrible in your opinion.

 

I have the same criticisms for it that I have for the other Lin-directed F&F films.  All of Lin's F&F films are basically just Michael Bay-type videogame movies, except without the "skill" that Bay demonstrates in his films.  As they were in Fast & Furious, the leads seem to be there simply to collect a paycheck, and the additions to the cast, mainly in the form of The Rock, feel as though they're done simply to grow the brand, and it simply just feels like the series has strayed a very long ways from the original, which was actually a pretty decent car movie.  

 

I will say, though, that the Rio location was pretty good.

 

 

His directing isn't too impressive either. Kevin Bacon's performance and the screenwriting made up for Wan failed at doing for 'Death Sentence'. Don't get me wrong, I love that film. We're not assessing his skills as a writer or as a director, rather as a filmmaker, that includes assessing his skills as both a writer and a director, and as a writer, he simply sucks.

Bay doesn't have skill, He's just someone who helped do special effects and made his way into directing blockbuster films. 'Tokyo Drift' Is the worst, mainly because It tried to almost emulate the style of the original and it failed (not commercially). Fast & Furious had potential, but blew it with almost a repeat of the original and 'Tokyo Drift'. Fast Five may have moved away from the original's street racing scene, but that's all it was. A street racing movie. Fast Five actually had a story. I'm not saying it's an Oscar Winner, but it's certainly a damn good entertaining popcorn flick.

[thecasinoroyale]

 That 'Star Trek Into Darkness' poster is epic!

 

 

 

Oh, this too....

 

[S K Y F A L L]

Wesley Snipes joins THE EXPENDABLES as Sly courts Mel Gibson to helm

 

Bryan Singer teases a Patrick Stewart as Xavier in DAYS OF FUTURE PAST on Set!

 

New STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS Character Posters

[tdalton]

 

An original concept that quickly became stale after the third entry and is nothing more than torture porn. Well  made, yes, absolutely.

 

But we're simply talking about James Wan's directing ability, aren't we?  Wan's involvement from a creative standpoint ended with the original film, so he's not really involved with the Saw franchise as a creative force.  The films became a franchise under director Darren Lynn Bousman with a script written by Bousman and Saw writer/co-star Leigh Whannel for Saw II.  If Wan did a solid job of directing the film, it doesn't really matter what the content of the film was if we're just assessing his skills as a director.  

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>I'm curious as to how Fast Five is terrible in your op

inion.

 

I have the same criticisms for it that I have for the other Lin-directed F&F films.  All of Lin's F&F films are basically just Michael Bay-type videogame movies, except without the "skill" that Bay demonstrates in his films.  As they were in Fast & Furious, the leads seem to be there simply to collect a paycheck, and the additions to the cast, mainly in the form of The Rock, feel as though they're done simply to grow the brand, and it simply just feels like the series has strayed a very long ways from the original, which was actually a pretty decent car movie.  

 

I will say, though, that the Rio location was pretty good.

 

His directing isn't too impressive either. Kevin Bacon's performance and the screenwriting made up for Wan failed at doing for 'Death Sentence'. Don't get me wrong, I love that film. We're not assessing his skills as a writer or as a director, rather as a filmmaker, that includes assessing his skills as both a writer and a director, and as a writer, he simply sucks.

Bay doesn't have skill, He's just someone who helped do special effects and made his way into directing blockbuster films. 'Tokyo Drift' Is the worst, mainly because It tried to almost emulate the style of the original and it failed (not commercially). Fast & Furious had potential, but blew it with almost a repeat of the original and 'Tokyo Drift'. Fast Five may have moved away from the original's street racing scene, but that's all it was. A street racing movie. Fast Five actually had a story. I'm not saying it's an Oscar Winner, but it's certainly a damn good entertaining popcorn flick.

 

 

My argument never was that Wan is a great filmmaker.  He's probably about where he should be as a filmmaker, making smaller-budget horror films and occasionally dabbling in lower rent action films.  My argument is simply that he's a better filmmaker than Lin, and that the F&F franchise is in much better hands with Wan than it is with Lin.  As far as I know, they're not asking Wan to write F&F7, he's just being asked to direct it.  Wan should be able to make a better picture simply on the basis that he's able to do some fairly impressive things with small budgets.  Now he's going to be given a film that has a summer blockbuster budget, and I'm looking forward to seeing how he's able to stretch that out and make a quality film.  Hopefully that can translate into more of a budget to do the car stuff for real.  The CGI that was especially apparent in Fast and Furious was an embarassment.

 

Regarding Bay, I agree, and that's why I put "skill" in quotations.  Bay really has very little skill as a director, but he makes the same kind of films that Lin has been making with F&F, which is to say they're just your standard videogame movies that are really void of pretty much any kind of artistry.  I would, however, take Bay any day of the week over Lin, as Bay can at least claim one good film to his name (The Rock), so there's always the chance that he could potentially stumble into making a decent film again.  Lin hasn't shown that ability.

[S K Y F A L L]

I go into the FAF films expecting to get a few laughs out of some corny scenes, poor acting, them breaking the laws of physics and maybe questionable CGI. That is one thing I like about them is that they aren't perfect or perhaps I'd be a Harry Potter fan of something else. I see what you mean that FAF7 will be better off with a director who will focus on the directing and perhaps even making a more real film like the original, which would be nice for an ending film. But to I think its to early to compare Wan and Lin, Saw and FAF are like apples and oranges. I don't see the Micheal Bay comparison either I think Bay has one up on Lin who really hasn't seen much action outside FAF. 

[S K Y F A L L]

 

FAST AND FURIOUS 7 Coming Sooner Than You Think!

[007jamesbond]

that star trek trailer look great.........we could see Kirk at his best and show why he is the captain of the Enterprise that will save his crew ........it almost here 

[SecretAgentFan]

Hey, that´s... great! And more space! Not just Earth-bound adventures. Beautiful, and lots of echoes from KHAN without Khan being Khan. 

Also, check out the new MAN OF STEEL trailer.

 

IMO, simply magnificent.

[S K Y F A L L]

I thought this was kind of funny, people kept suggesting if Nolan did a Bond film he would bring in his usual cast and now it appears that Interstellar will have Anna Hathway and now; Michael Caine Joins Christopher Nolan’s ‘Interstellar’ Cast

 

Pierce Brosnan to play French king

 

Christopher McQuarrie Races Towards ICE STATION ZEBRA!!

 

Adam Scott Slips Into The HOT TUB TIME MACHINE Sequel!

 

The New TRANSFORMERS Movie Adds A Hot Genre Babe!!

 

Fast and Furious 6 and 7 Casting Spoilers

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 08 May 2013 - 02:15 PM.

[thecasinoroyale]

Some new glimpses of our new 'RoboCop'...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a big chance to the old model we know and love, but hope it's as good as it can be! I notice they've kept his right hand human too.

[S K Y F A L L]

As long as they keep the same sound effects, I could careless about what he looks like. "Your move creep."

 

 

Michelle Yeoh to return for CROUCHING TIGER HIDDEN DRAGON 2: THE GREEN DESTINY!! Set to begin filming soon!

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 17 May 2013 - 08:59 PM.

[thecasinoroyale]

Seems like we have a release date for the 'Assassins Creed' movie starring Michael Fassbender:

 

Memorial Day 2015.

 

http://www.comingsoo...s.php?id=104453

 

 

Very excited for this BUT they do know it will be up against 'The Avengers 2' and that little sci-fi film 'Star Wars Episode VII'? What a summer that will be!!

[Iceskater101]

2015 will be the summer with the biggest franchises ever! I am definitely going to a lot of midnight premieres that summer.

[S K Y F A L L]

Steven Seagal might be joining THE EXPENDABLES 3!!

 

Has STAR WARS EPISODE VII Landed Its First Non-OT Cast Member?

[x007AceOfSpades]

More of the overrated Fassbender! Yay!

 

Hope Seagal can be in EX3, however.

[x007AceOfSpades]

It appears Warner Bros. Latest film with Sylvester Stallone, Bullet To The Head, is being released solely on Blu-Ray.... I don't like the sound of that.

 

I personally prefer DVD, even the BR is supposed to be superior, I don't see the magic in it, and I've a damn good HD set-up, but with this happening, this could very well symbolize the end of DVD manufacturing.

 

The Microsoft Xbox One and Sony PlayStation PS4 will have Blu-Ray drives in them, and Blu-Ray players are relatively cheap now, and so are the PC drives for them. If it the end, I guess I'm moving up, much to my dismay.

[thecasinoroyale]

Really? That's very odd - you can get it on DVD over here in the UK. I've yet to watch it actually.

 

It scares me seeing how DVDs are now presented just as the film with no bonus features anymore (bar maybe a trailer or image gallery), frmo what they used to be.

 

Are they already becoming the VHS to the Blu-ray takeover?

[x007AceOfSpades]

I realized it's out in The UK too, its crazy fun, you'll probably enjoy it. But its strange how its happening.

I guess its slowly going to happen with the big companies like Fox and Universal etc to follow

[S K Y F A L L]

I was wondering this myself recently. How long until they stop making dvds altogether, even worse will they stop making blu ray players that read dvd's? That would suck.