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[A Kristatos]

Three more references that I spotted on other threads here:

DAD reference when M asks Bond "what took him so long" just before he dies. Jinx asks Bond the same thing after she is rescued from the ice hotel in DAD.

And whether intentional or not, there are two NSNA references here. First, the aforementioned "exploding pen" comment from Q could be referenced from both GE and NSNA (theoretically NSNA had it first ).

Second, Silva telling his henchmen "not to touch M, she's mine" is similar to Fatima Blush telling her henchmen not to touch Bond, "he's mine" in NSNA during the motorcycle chase.

Come to think of it, Bond on a motorcycle in SF also references NSNA and TND.

Who says EON doesn't plagiarize "unofficial" Bond movies?

[starschwar]

Let's talk about Silva-centric references:

Silva was an MI6 operative who got captured by a communist country. M abandoned him and left him to be tortured. This is essentially the predicament Bond found himself in at the start of Die Another Day. The real kicker? In DAD, M scolded Bond for not taking his cyanide.

Also, I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere, but I didn't notice it in this thread. Silva's hair is pure Zorin.

Prosthetic teeth. A stretch, but some think that's a shout out to Jaws? I don't see it, personally.

He plays a deadly game with Bond, utilising a one-shot pistol. Very Scaramanga-ish, if you ask me.

He has his own island, like many villains before him: Dr No, Blofeld, Scaramanga, to name a few.

[007jamesbond]

Patrice shout out to Oddjob? I mean he just fight Bond twice and he didnt not say anything at all? Like Oddjob he was silent and no dialogue at all. I guess he is the silent assassin

[A Kristatos]

I have two references to other non-Bond films and tv shows that I observed. First, I love the funny look on Bond's face when the Komono dragon approaches the thug he is fighting. That look along with the hand motion he uses to try to divert the guy he is fighting reminds of something Indiana Jones would do in the same situation. Craig channels Harrison Ford perfectly!

I also love the huge homage to the American TV show "Lost". Silva on an abandoned island with computers capable of monitoring anyone's vital information in the outside world was one of the major plot points of "Lost", but it was nice seeing it play out in a shorter movie than myself sitting through several seasons of a tv show (no spoilers for "Lost" as I am almost through season three, with the intent of watching the rest of the series. ).

I also got a kick out of the Bond producers choosing Hashima Island as the location for Silva's lair. Hashima Island, located just 9 miles southwest of Nagasaki, Japan was featured on the History Channel in the U.S. as part of the series "Life After People", showing what would happen to everything if there were suddenly no people on earth. This island used to house a coal mine, and housed the 5300 workers and family members while the mine was in operation. However, in 1974 Mitsubishi officially closed the mine and all 5300 people packed up and left leaving everything on the island to deteriorate. While most of action scenes that took place there were filmed in the EON studios, it looked like the scene where they were first seen walking around the island was actually filmed. That or that was one heck of a great set! Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this. The distant shots of the island though were definitely filmed there as Bond and Silva's henchmen approached the island. Definitely one of the most unique locations ever in a Bond film, and an appropriately creepy fit for Silva's character!

Edited by A Kristatos, 12 November 2012 - 04:58 AM.

[john.steed]

Whether this was done on purpose or not, Skyfall has an interesting inverse on a common scene in a Bond film. In many, many, Bond films, beginning with Dr. No and up through and including Quantum of Solice, the climactic scene has Bond invading and/or destroying the villian's base of operation. Finally, after 50 years, in Skyfall, it is the villain who takes the offensive, invading and destroying Bond's ancesteral home.

[Iceskater101]

Yeah I think that's interesting too. I think it adds a darker feel to the Bond movies. I feel like besides License to Kill, this might be the darkiest Bond movie.

[OHMSS Spion]

The fight on top of the train with Patrice definitely had shades of the Bond/Grant fight in From Russia With Love, particularly when Bond is choking Patrice with the wire from the hard drive.

[Animal Clans]

The only homage I can think of that I don't see mentioned here, and it may be an unintentional one, is at the very beginning of the film, the first room we actually see lit up is a dingy white bathroom, looking very similar to where Bond scored his very first kill in CR.

[Vauxhall]

The only homage I can think of that I don't see mentioned here, and it may be an unintentional one, is at the very beginning of the film, the first room we actually see lit up is a dingy white bathroom, looking very similar to where Bond scored his very first kill in CR.

Good point. That's another one that crossed my mind at the time, and I'd forgotten about it since. Welcome to CBn.

[occhile007]

Does anyone know what the GB sticker on the back of the DB5 was?

[radio_wmn]

It isn't exactly an homage, but I'm sure we all realized that, in the last scene, the "new" offices for Moneypenny and M are exactly like the old office from the Connery-Moore-Bernard Lee-Lois Maxwell days. Right down to the hat rack by the door and the leather-padded inner door to M's office. Far more traditional than the ultra-modern offices from the past few films.

And again, not exactly an homage, but the "new" M looks an awful lot like a young Bernard Lee - his hair and his three-piece suit. And Moneypenny's dress at the end is very much in the style of the 1960s - exactly the kind of thing Lois Maxwell would have worn in the Sean Connery films.

So we've come full circle.

Unlike many of the other things mentioned in this thread which are almost certainly coincidences borne out of 23 movies, the old office is definitely an homage!

Yes you're right. But it's not JUST an homage - it's a reversion to the norm. I think we can safely assume that the next Bond movie(s) will have the traditional opening scenes: Bond arrives at the office, banters with Miss Moneypenny, receives his brief from M, and swings by Q branch for his equipment. That sequence of scenes has been absent, and now they have set the table for it to resume in a natural way.

Am I the only one who found that aspect of the film rather... forced? We have a male M who, as tonyvenhuizen states, looks like the original EON "M", an office which looks like the original EON office, a secretary/AA named "Moneypenny" with whom Bond has a sort of a past, and (presuming it can be put back together again) the old DB5 with ejector seat and so on. All that's missing is for us to look up at the door of the garage that housed the DB5 and see that it's really a blue, 1960's style police call box with (name your favorite Doctor) inside...

Given how much we've reverted back to the original movies, should we presume that Bond 24 will be a set piece taking place in the 1950s? (If so, would it sell? And how would TPTB explain the rest of the time warp?)

Edited by radio_wmn, 13 November 2012 - 07:08 PM.

[Vauxhall]

Does anyone know what the GB sticker on the back of the DB5 was?

Each country has a unique vehicle registration code, in which GB represents the United Kingdom. These are particularly common in Europe. The one on the back of the DB5 was quite a traditional-looking plate, but it still does the same job.

[occhile007]

Does anyone know what the GB sticker on the back of the DB5 was?

Each country has a unique vehicle registration code, in which GB represents the United Kingdom. These are particularly common in Europe. The one on the back of the DB5 was quite a traditional-looking plate, but it still does the same job.

Thanks Vauxhaul. Good find. Whenever the day comes for me to purchase my own DB5, i'll make sure to have that sticker on there too. haha

[Matt_13]

There's a moment during the lodge showdown shortly after Bond exits the DB5 and heads into the building, where Craig is shot from a low angle looking straight, then snapping his head to the right, the entire shot in silhouette. It reminded me of a similar shot in Goldfinger's PTS where Connery made the same basic maneuver.

[sharpshooter]

I was watching Moonraker today and had an observation. Going on the trailers, Silva’s introduction of walking slowly up to Bond from a distance is similar to Jaws walking up to Manuela in his clown outfit during the Rio mardi gras.

[nickjb007]

The elevator scene bond grabs in skyfall is similar to the scene of Connery in Diamonds Are forever going up to the penthouse in the casino.

[A Kristatos]

I was watching Moonraker today and had an observation. Going on the trailers, Silva’s introduction of walking slowly up to Bond from a distance is similar to Jaws walking up to Manuela in his clown outfit during the Rio mardi gras.

That might be a bit of a stretch. Also considering that Manuela did not know who he was until the last second.

[byline]

Not really a film homage, but seeing the initials AB on the knife, of course that refers to Andrew Bond, but I was also reminded of Albert Broccoli.

[starschwar]

It isn't exactly an homage, but I'm sure we all realized that, in the last scene, the "new" offices for Moneypenny and M are exactly like the old office from the Connery-Moore-Bernard Lee-Lois Maxwell days. Right down to the hat rack by the door and the leather-padded inner door to M's office. Far more traditional than the ultra-modern offices from the past few films.

And again, not exactly an homage, but the "new" M looks an awful lot like a young Bernard Lee - his hair and his three-piece suit. And Moneypenny's dress at the end is very much in the style of the 1960s - exactly the kind of thing Lois Maxwell would have worn in the Sean Connery films.

So we've come full circle.

Unlike many of the other things mentioned in this thread which are almost certainly coincidences borne out of 23 movies, the old office is definitely an homage!

Yes you're right. But it's not JUST an homage - it's a reversion to the norm. I think we can safely assume that the next Bond movie(s) will have the traditional opening scenes: Bond arrives at the office, banters with Miss Moneypenny, receives his brief from M, and swings by Q branch for his equipment. That sequence of scenes has been absent, and now they have set the table for it to resume in a natural way.

Am I the only one who found that aspect of the film rather... forced? We have a male M who, as tonyvenhuizen states, looks like the original EON "M", an office which looks like the original EON office, a secretary/AA named "Moneypenny" with whom Bond has a sort of a past, and (presuming it can be put back together again) the old DB5 with ejector seat and so on. All that's missing is for us to look up at the door of the garage that housed the DB5 and see that it's really a blue, 1960's style police call box with (name your favorite Doctor) inside...

Given how much we've reverted back to the original movies, should we presume that Bond 24 will be a set piece taking place in the 1950s? (If so, would it sell? And how would TPTB explain the rest of the time warp?)

I don't think the ending is meant to be a literal lead-in to the classic continuity. There's a lot that can't be reconciled between the two continuities (not the least of which being the technological and historical discrepancies). I just saw it as a metaphor: Craig's Bond is done with his early reboot phase. He's now at the same point of his life as Connery's Bond, when the original series began.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

It isn't exactly an homage, but I'm sure we all realized that, in the last scene, the "new" offices for Moneypenny and M are exactly like the old office from the Connery-Moore-Bernard Lee-Lois Maxwell days. Right down to the hat rack by the door and the leather-padded inner door to M's office. Far more traditional than the ultra-modern offices from the past few films.

And again, not exactly an homage, but the "new" M looks an awful lot like a young Bernard Lee - his hair and his three-piece suit. And Moneypenny's dress at the end is very much in the style of the 1960s - exactly the kind of thing Lois Maxwell would have worn in the Sean Connery films.

So we've come full circle.

Excellent. That may be my favorite part of the film.

I think Severine is clearly an updated Andrea Anders from TMWTGG replete with each woman having a scene in a Macau casino, the scene of her in the shower recalls Miss Anders shower and Bond surprising her.

[Trevelyan 006]

Silva has a lot in common with Alec Trevelyan:

Silva has made a fortune by electronically making stock markets raise or fall, something similar with Alec's hacking of the Bank of England.
In their initial meeting, Silva mocks Bond about his patriotism and loyalty to M, and he tells him he has now "his own missions" - remember Alec asking James to join his "little scheme"?
Oh, and of course, Silva has a deformation he got after a mission went awry, and he feels betrayed by M and seeks revenge at all costs.

I felt the same way. Just the simple ex-MI6 agent who was "betrayed by the firm", then becoming nearly forgotten about until they decided to exact their revenge.

And here I though this was all just my own wishful, over-thinking!

And like Janus, Silva definitely has two faces.

That is putting it mildly...

[sharpshooter]

Bond failing his tests and M passing him anyway - Bond getting his clean bill of health from Warmflash in TWINE.

[Aisforauric]

Bond firing his Father's rifle from the hip reminded me of Sean Connery's playfully successful round of clay pigeon shooting in Thunderball.

[Melancholy Productions]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but it seems like the music at around 1:45 on the soundtrack on 'Enquiry', might be a reference to a similar cue heard in Dr. No?

[starschwar]

Assuming the gunbarrel sequence is back where it belongs in Bond 24, its placement here could be considered a QoS homage. The rifling appears to be a hybrid of the CR and Binder styles, with the cgi rolling reflections of Kleinmann's version. Bond's pistol doesn't actually appear to fire, much like Moore's TSWLM-AVTAK sequence.

[Matt_13]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but when Eve visits Bond in Macau, he is seen carrying a PPK while wearing nothing but a towel around his waist. Reference to Bond's encounter with Tatiana in FRWL?

[Shaun Forever]

I was watching Moonraker today and had an observation. Going on the trailers, Silva’s introduction of walking slowly up to Bond from a distance is similar to Jaws walking up to Manuela in his clown outfit during the Rio mardi gras.

Does anyone else think we are clutching at straws now?

[sharpshooter]

An observation, not saying it's an intentional homage:

 

Goldeneye: Alec points a gun at Bond, Bond kicks a ladder leaver and falls down while Alec shoots.

Skyfall: Silva points a gun at Bond, Bond uses the machine gun of a nearby goon to break the ice and fall down while Silva shoots.

[Shrublands]

The Man With the Golden Gun - Bond retrieves a highly unusual assassin’s bullet and takes it to MI6 to be analysed. The information provided sends Bond off on a trail that will lead to Macau.  Soon he finds himself visiting a floating Casino and meeting a beautiful woman who seems at liberty but is actually the slave of the film’s main villain. This woman asks Bond to kill her tormentor for her, he eventually will kill this man, however it will be too late for this mysterious, tragic woman.

 

Skyfall - Bond retrieves a highly unusual assassin’s bullet and takes it to MI6 to be analysed. The information provided sends Bond off on a trail that will lead to Macau.  Soon he finds himself visiting a floating Casino and meeting a beautiful woman who seems at liberty but is actually the slave of the film’s main villain. This woman asks Bond to kill her tormentor for her, he eventually will kill this man, however it will be too late for this mysterious, tragic woman.