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#481 sharpshooter

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:44 AM

Couldn't agree more with Kotto. His words covers it all. Nothing more to speak about for me.

I agree as well. Bond isn't always going to look the same when the role is recast, obviously. Some actors may have some Fleming Bond traits but not others. For example Dalton has black hair but green eyes. Which I don't really think matters much at all. But like Kotto, I think the character should remain white as Ian Fleming established. A black actor would be much more of a dramatic shift than merely having a lighter hair colour. There is literally no prior grounding in the history of the character for James Bond being black, and I personally don't think it should happen. Especially just because.



#482 Daddy Bond

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 10:21 AM

Having such a major shift in the character, from say, black to white, or even male to female, would be too radical a shift from the original character Fleming created.  If you want to make such a shift, simply create a new character. 



#483 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 11:38 AM

People are still worried.

 

Major sigh...



#484 Gothamite

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 02:39 PM

Having such a major shift in the character, from say, black to white, or even male to female,

 

A shift from male to female is a much more drastic a shift than white to black...


Edited by Gothamite, 08 April 2015 - 02:39 PM.


#485 quantumofsolace

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 11:41 PM

http://www.new-magaz...a-Bond-rumours/

 

 

http://www.vulture.c...james-bond.html



#486 Guy Haines

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 02:48 PM

Interesting interview all round with Yaphet Kotto. I recall another interview he did with, I think, Starlog magazine years ago, before anyone had even thought about a black James Bond, in which, as I recall, he thought the Bond producers and crew had the whole franchise so well run they could cast anyone, even him, as Bond and it would work.

 

I'm intrigued that he could have been Jean-Luc Picard in Star Trek;TNG. That would have been interesting, and probably not that different an interpretation from that of Patrick Stewart.

 

Roger Moore was full of praise for Yaphet Kotto's acting skills in his diaries on the making of LALD. He didn't create a caricatured villain at all - save for the slightly ludicrous business of disguising himself as "Mr Big". But as Dr. Kananga he is a cultured, dangerous man and his racial background was irrelevant. 



#487 Call Billy Bob

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 02:52 PM

Yaphet Kotto will always be a favorite to me for one scene: his perfect reaction to John Hurt's chest exploding in Alien.



#488 quantumofsolace

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Posted 09 April 2015 - 09:41 PM

Why Idris Elba shouldn't give up on playing James Bond

http://www.theguardi...ying-james-bond



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Posted 10 April 2015 - 02:34 AM

My thought is that we may get a black/multiracial 007 in the future at some point, but obviously it will not be Mr. Elba (too old). When it does happen, it will be with an actor who is so obviously born to play the part, that the general public will embrace him wholeheartedly, and even the most conservative doubters will say, eh, why not?

 

Of course, I do not know who that is, or will be. Perhaps he isn't even born yet. The point is that whoever it is, he'll be ready to play the part, and we'll be ready for him to play it. When he appears, we'll know.

 

One day.



#490 quantumofsolace

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 07:02 PM

http://www.independe...a-10194479.html



#491 DavidJones

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 07:22 PM

Bond's white. Anyone doesn't like that, make a time machine and go and convince Fleming to make him black.



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Posted 24 April 2015 - 08:15 PM

Bond's white. Anyone doesn't like that, make a time machine and go and convince Fleming to make him black.

 

Bond's also supposed to be British, but that hasn't stopped them from looking outside Britain to cast the role.  Perhaps someone should use that time machine to go back and help EON with their casting decisions.



#493 Odd Jobbies

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 10:30 PM

Two wrong's don't make a right.



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Posted 24 April 2015 - 10:44 PM

Two wrong's don't make a right.

 

That's not the case here, though.  You can't deride one actor's potential to play the part because he doesn't fit Bond's description in one key area but then be in favor of casting another actor even though he fails to meet another key piece of the criteria.



#495 quantumofsolace

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Posted 25 April 2015 - 12:39 AM

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#496 DavidJones

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 04:43 PM

 

Bond's white. Anyone doesn't like that, make a time machine and go and convince Fleming to make him black.

 

Bond's also supposed to be British, but that hasn't stopped them from looking outside Britain to cast the role.  Perhaps someone should use that time machine to go back and help EON with their casting decisions.

 

 

But you can hide an accent.

 

I'm not against there being a black Bond, but I can see what people who don't mean.

 

I don't think Elba would be good: he simply isn't handsome enough. Colin Salmon would have been very good indeed, I think.



#497 the man with the BB gun

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Posted 01 May 2015 - 07:36 PM

I think Elba's time to play bond has passed but having said that I would like to see him in a bond film...as a villain.



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Posted 01 May 2015 - 10:53 PM

I think Elba's time to play bond has passed but having said that I would like to see him in a bond film...as a villain.


Yes, this would be good. If you beliebe the whispers, EON spoke to him a fair while back about a possible role in this film.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 06:26 AM

When I was a kid in the Eighties my brother and I would often play Bond 'What Ifs'. One of our frequent 'What Ifs' was to imagine different actors in the role, and a recurring favourite was casting the great Sidney Poitier as Bond. Poitier had in our view the requisite style, grace, steel and gravitas. Even to two little white kids steeped in all the Bond films to-date and the white actors who had played him it seemed a wonderful fit.

 

The defining element of Bond the character is not his race or skin colour: It is his 'Britishness' and his dedication to Queen and Country. Other signature elements include his extreme physical competency, his suave sophistication, quick thinking, the sardonic humour, his highly tuned and uncompromising sense of taste and his hedonistic leisure pursuits. I think Idris Elba is absolutely 'British' enough to fully and convincingly inhabit Bond as we know and love him and would nail all these other key attributes as well. I'd love to see him take on the role after Craig but I just fear he will be too old by then.



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Posted 13 May 2015 - 10:04 PM

Michael Fassbender and Tom Hardy are probably best actors to replace Daniel Craig. Elba can become a good Bond too but he is not my first preference 



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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:53 PM

NO.

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:59 PM

Michael Fassbender and Tom Hardy are probably best actors to replace Daniel Craig. Elba can become a good Bond too but he is not my first preference 

 

Fassbender will be well into his forties when Craig hangs it up.  He's 38 now, and assuming that Craig does Bond 25, he'll be 41 when that film is presumably released, and then 44-45 when he would debut in the role, depending on how many years they take between films.  Tom Hardy is in a similar situation.

 

I think the oldest that they should go for when they recast the role is 40.  They definitely shouldn't be replacing Craig with someone who is already midway through his forties, that much is for certain.



#503 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 08:14 AM

Agreed.  And I actually hope that EON will again turn to a hardly known actor (like Craig had been).  Others are bringing too much baggage from their earlier roles.



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Posted 25 May 2015 - 12:30 AM

And I actually hope that EON will again turn to a hardly known actor (like Craig had been).  Others are bringing too much baggage from their earlier roles.

 

I'm sure this will be the case. The film franchise version of the character is so well established now it is bigger than any actor. TBH if all of this was happening six years ago Idris Elba _would_ be that relatively unknown actor - to date he has still mainly done only TV roles (as big as Luther and The Wire are). As it is his time has gone before it even came.

 

I think EON will go for an unknown, they will go for a 'true' actor like Craig, and they will go for something a little unexpected like Craig was (i.e. the 'Blond Bond' - remember that controvery at the time? Seems laughable now).



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Posted 24 September 2015 - 12:20 PM

Okay, I admit this is a pretty tired topic now that has well and truly had it's day, and I'm as sick as the next person of seeing the same old arguments hashed and rehashed, but I came across this tonight so just had to share it.

 

Here is Idris Elba as Bond in the SPECTRE trailer:

http://www.vulture.c...acebook_vulture


Edited by Emrayfo, 25 September 2015 - 03:16 AM.


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Posted 24 September 2015 - 12:35 PM

*sniffs* I feel so proud a thread I made in 2012 is still going strong. :)



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Posted 24 September 2015 - 04:12 PM

Fassbender will be well into his forties when Craig hangs it up.  He's 38 now, and assuming that Craig does Bond 25, he'll be 41 when that film is presumably released, and then 44-45 when he would debut in the role, depending on how many years they take between films.  Tom Hardy is in a similar situation.

 

I think the oldest that they should go for when they recast the role is 40.  They definitely shouldn't be replacing Craig with someone who is already midway through his forties, that much is for certain.

 

To be fair, Timothy Dalton was 41-43 when he debuted as Bond ;)



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Posted 25 September 2015 - 03:24 AM

 

Fassbender will be well into his forties when Craig hangs it up.  He's 38 now, and assuming that Craig does Bond 25, he'll be 41 when that film is presumably released, and then 44-45 when he would debut in the role, depending on how many years they take between films.  Tom Hardy is in a similar situation.

 

I think the oldest that they should go for when they recast the role is 40.  They definitely shouldn't be replacing Craig with someone who is already midway through his forties, that much is for certain.

 

To be fair, Timothy Dalton was 41-43 when he debuted as Bond ;)

 

 

I don't want Fassbender for the cinematic Bond but I would love to see him tackle a 1950s/60s "period" Bond based on an exact rendering of the novels, in a HBO-type of TV show. Hie has a bit of that Hoagy Carmichael look and he's quite rangy. His German would also come in handy. http://debrief.comma...t-in-the-1950s/



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Posted 25 September 2015 - 02:36 PM

We're still having this conversation, huh?

 

The answer, then, is no.  He's already 43, and even if Craig makes this his last one -- kind of doubtful since he signed for a 5th and SP isn't likely to fail at the box office -- that would STILL have Elba starting the role at 46 -- older than the youthful-looking Roger Moore was when he started, and too old to have any significant run at the role.  Released at 3-year intervals, the best he could hope for would be about 3, and that's IF Craig doesn't do a 5th (BIG "if").

 

That being said, he's being touted as an early front-runner to win this year's Best Supporting Actor Oscar for a showy villain role (an African warlord with a squad of child soldiers) in "Beasts of No Nation".  If he does win, I see him being HEAVILY touted to play a villain in either Craig's last or the next Bond's first.

 

I've been brainstorming off of the ideas that were originally in play for "The Property of a Lady" in the early 90s, with Bond's mentor being a turncoat villain, and if people really see Elba as Bond-like, then who better to essay the part of the secret agent who taught Bond everything he knows -- a man who was Bond before Bond was, even -- than a 50-something Idris Elba?  With all the delving into Bond's past, and the enriching of Bond's character, now is perhaps the best time to beg the question of his future by drawing a parallel with a used-up, embittered, psychologically drowning former agent who outlived his usefulness as a field agent.  Perhaps he even held the 007 code name before James Bond did, with the question looming: what's to become of Bond once he's no longer 007?  The timing is ripe for a story like this.  (And yes, I've been itching to share this for weeks since I first started percolating the idea.  Do we have a Fan Fiction section?)

 

Dave



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Posted 25 September 2015 - 03:59 PM

We do: http://debrief.comma...iction-posting/