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[Vauxhall]

I'm quite interested in what the final track 30. "Adrenaline" could pertain to in the film.

I expect it's from the Whitehall attack. In an emergency situation adrenaline takes over. Mallory leaping into action, etc.

I believe you're right about that. Thanks!

As I mentioned previously, I think the sound of "Adrenaline" is too eastern to fit in as part of the London sequence. I liked the idea of it being the music when Bond is polishing off the scorpion drink.

[MattofSteel]

Agreed, Vauxhall.

[The Shark]

The music in the latest clip sounds like "The Enquiry", with the same building brass clusters and prepared piano. Guess it shows that the titles of the album tracks probably have nothing to do with what they contain - hence "Deep Water" being for the digger stunt.

[Vauxhall]

The music in the latest clip sounds like "The Enquiry", with the same building brass clusters and prepared piano. Guess it shows that the titles of the album tracks probably have nothing to do with what they contain - hence "Deep Water" being for the digger stunt.

"Deep Water" could relevantly describe the digger stunt, if the music in that sequence continues to where Bond falls from the bridge into deep water, and the bit sounds that sounds "The Enquiry" could be a recurring theme from later on in the cue. However, I reckon the titles are probably quite loose generally.

I was encouraged to see that the only reviews which mentioned the soundtrack referred to it positively.

[Harmsway]

At least one review--from Indiewire--didn't much care for the soundtrack.

[The Dove]

http://www.hollywood...el-craig-378796

The Hollywood Reporter review mentions that Newman's score allows for ample room for the Bond theme to make it's presence know, so I think that it's safe to say that for those of us who were worried about the lack of the Bond theme in those 30 second preview clips, we ain't heard nothing yet!!

[The Shark]

At least one review--from Indiewire--didn't much care for the soundtrack.

Not really. It said it was strong, but didn't quite give the action setpieces enough exhilaration.

[MattyO]

Long time lurker, bringing some attention to something no-one else has said. The UK iTunes store pre-order for the soundtrack lists an extra track "Old Dog, New Tricks". This to me sounds like it could be the final cue for the film, for the supposed MI6 ending that is heavily rumoured. If it is, I wonder why it isn't on the CD (unless it's too long to fit on the already maxed-out album!).

[thecasinoroyale]

Interesting find MattyO- and nice to see you posting here! Welcome!

"Old Dog, New Tricks" sounds VERY promising.

[MattyO]

I will take this opportunity to pipe in (not pipe down!) and say that the biggest draw for me to Bond movies is their respective soundtracks. It is the Bond franchise that put me onto film scoring and soundtracks - one of my first being Tomorrow Never Dies.

[Vauxhall]

Thanks for the info, MattyO. Good thinking. That sounds very likely to me!

At least two reviews have also referenced the expression and one said that the phrase is said by Eve.

Review extract:
"Brave new world,” 007 mutters grumpily, after his first encounter with a whizzy new Q (Ben Whishaw) who scarcely needs to shave yet. “Old dog, new tricks,” twinkles Naomie Harris’s sexy MI6 underling, her tone vaguely patronizing, as if teaching an elderly uncle how to send an email.

[QuantumOfRoyale]

Breadcrumbs could be the 'Bond reveal' in the PTS?

Probably from a line of dialogue about clues to the missing drive.

Yep, I’d say the MI6 agent Ronson has left a deliberate trail so that Bond can find him, and subsequently the computer with the data, together with those who are trying to acquire it.

Deep cover perhaps.

My theory is that it plays as Bond and M leave London and go off-the-grid and head to Scotland. I believe the "breadcrumbs" could be a trail left by Bond to leave Silva to them for the final showdown.

I just don't think it's the PTS music, because not only does it not seem nearly bombastic or complete enough, the soundtrack seems to, for the most part anyway, be generally in chronological order.

I think...

[killkenny kid]

http://www.hollywood...el-craig-378796

The Hollywood Reporter review mentions that Newman's score allows for ample room for the Bond theme to make it's presence know, so I think that it's safe to say that for those of us who were worried about the lack of the Bond theme in those 30 second preview clips, we ain't heard nothing yet!!

You have no idea, this score is a treat for Bond fans.

[MattofSteel]

From the samples I've heard, yeah, Bond theme's everywhere. Can't wait. Shark listed it in the other thread, something like 40% of the cues have it.

[Vauxhall]

Breadcrumbs could be the 'Bond reveal' in the PTS?

Probably from a line of dialogue about clues to the missing drive.

Yep, I’d say the MI6 agent Ronson has left a deliberate trail so that Bond can find him, and subsequently the computer with the data, together with those who are trying to acquire it.

Deep cover perhaps.

My theory is that it plays as Bond and M leave London and go off-the-grid and head to Scotland. I believe the "breadcrumbs" could be a trail left by Bond to leave Silva to them for the final showdown.

I just don't think it's the PTS music, because not only does it not seem nearly bombastic or complete enough, the soundtrack seems to, for the most part anyway, be generally in chronological order.

I think...

Nice idea. If so, I'm guessing the full on Bond theme will accompany the DB5 roaring out of the storage garage.

[Matt_13]

This. It has to be.

[Royal Dalton]

Erm...

I don't think "Breadcrumbs" is the gunbarrel music, as suggested in the other thread. The Bond theme is too short. I think that's more likely to be Bond laying a trail for Silva later in the film. Possibly from the scene where they collect the Aston Martin.

[sharpshooter]

This. It has to be.

Yeah. And the score does seem to be in chronological order.

Bond exiting the garage and driving like Bond does, ala with Solange in CR. Probably ending the scene and cue with a lingering shot of the car disappearing into the night.

[Vauxhall]

Erm...

I don't think "Breadcrumbs" is the gunbarrel music, as suggested in the other thread. The Bond theme is too short. I think that's more likely to be Bond laying a trail for Silva later in the film. Possibly from the scene where they collect the Aston Martin.

Ah. Obviously I missed this. Good point, RD. Credit to you.

[MattofSteel]

The score's not in chronological order. 'The Bloody Shot' is the pretitles train sequence track, and it's halfway through. That being said, large quantities of the score do seem to be in order, with a few standalone tracks like that having been moved.

Safe bet 'Breadcrumbs' has to do with the DB5, though. Yeah.

[QuantumOfRoyale]

Listening to "Mother" now. It's probably my favorite Newman non-Bond theme track on the soundtrack.

As I listen to it, I'm trying to envision the climax of the film. Silva is dead, but M has been caught in the crossfire. Bond, desperation and disbelief in his eyes, cradles M's bleeding, limp body in his arms, while she stares up at him; the strong, confident woman looking weaker than he's ever seen her before. Perhaps a silent tear or two running down her face.

Neither will speak. And, in her last moments, nothing between the two will need to be said.

And the movie ends with Bond gazing out at the London skyline, any sadness over M's passing covered up by the cool, collected mask of a Double O. Because soldiers, friends, will always fall, but the war carries on.

Well done, Mr. Newman

[Matt_13]

I wonder if the three minute mark in She's Mine signals the point where Bond and one of the bad guys tumble into the loch.

[The Dove]

I had a question about the exact track listing on the soundtrack...It seemed to me that the track "Old Dogs, New Tricks" wasn't listed initially on the amazon.de site but when the soundtrack became available through the swiss iTunes, it was there...Does anyone know if this is an iTunes exclusive bonus track? I want to pre-order the CD from amazon.com but I would want to know if I have to get this extra track from iTunes, if it ISN'T on the CD? Thanks!

[JimmyBond]

As far as I know, the track is not on the CD.

[Vauxhall]

According to Twitter user Skyfall007Fan, there are three different versions of the full Bond theme used at different parts of the movie:

The Name's Bond... James Bond (Arnold) - Bond arrives at the casino in Macau
Original version (presumably meaning Monty Norman's) - Bond and M pick up the Aston Martin DB5
Breadcrumbs (Newman) - tbc

[JimmyBond]

I've always thought Breadcrumbs would be used during the finale. Bond leading Silva and his group away from M or something.

[The Shark]

The Name's Bond... James Bond (Arnold) - Bond arrives at the casino in Macau

Thought something more sinister and atmospheric would suit that bit better (what with the weird glow of the dragons and fireworks), though what do I know? I haven't seen the film.

I wonder if the three minute mark in She's Mine signals the point where Bond and one of the bad guys tumble into the loch.

Either that or 0:48 into Deep Water (plus there's an ambient synth effect at 0:59 that suggests freezing water).

[MattofSteel]

Thought something more sinister and atmospheric would suit that bit better (what with the weird glow of the dragons and fireworks), though what do I know? I haven't seen the film.

I'd imagined the opening of Komodo Dragon was it, actually. Apparently not.

[Matt_13]

I would be stunned if they actually threw in the original Monty Norman recording. Hopefully when you all get to see it on Friday you'll let us in the States know what's going on!

[Harmsway]

Thought something more sinister and atmospheric would suit that bit better (what with the weird glow of the dragons and fireworks), though what do I know? I haven't seen the film.

I'd imagined the opening of Komodo Dragon was it, actually. Apparently not.

Me too. "Komodo Dragon" seemed well-suited to the imagery.