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[thecasinoroyale]

I think you need a general film fan friendly title - 'Quantum Of Solace' was noted by Fleming fans but most viewers thought it was another silly title.

 

If you have something like 'The Hildebrand Rariety', 'The Property Of A Lady' or even at a stretch 'Risico', you're going to have the majority of audiences feel a little confused and turned off by how random they sound. Fleming fans would love it and what they mean, but to turn them into a solid tie to a film narrative wouldbe really difficult to convince audiences it's a decent Bond title, not just a random mix of words.

 

'Dr.No', 'Goldfinger', 'You Only Live Twice', 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service', 'The Man With The Golden Gun', 'Licence To Kill', 'GoldenEye', 'Casino Royale', 'Skyfall'... these work with clear reference to the plot, a character or narrative.

 

'From Russia With Love', 'Live And Let Die', 'A View To A Kill', 'The Living Daylights', 'Die Another Day'... they start to push it and make people think a little and wait to be convinced...

 

It's an important choice I think but I don't feel Fleming can safely provide a solid Bond title to really tie up the film with audiences in a satisfactory way, as 'Quantum Of Solace' proved.

[Professor Pi]

I think they've done alright with their non-Fleming or Fleming inspired titles (Licence to Kill, GoldenEye, The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day, even Skyfall.) 

 

The only way to shoehorn something like "007 in New York" would be to have some title like the unused 70s script, "James Bond of the Secret Service" or simply "007" and then in the film, title the locations as they did in Quantum of Solace ("in New York", "in Siena" etc.) Or name a pre-title sequence "007 in New York."  But I'd rather see the other three remaining short story titles before that happens.

 

I'm warming up to The Property of a Lady.  It'd also be a great title song.

[Pussfeller]

If Fleming had scribbled "Jimmy Takes a Poo" on a cocktail napkin, some fan would insist that it should be used as the title for the next Bond film. "007 in New York" really has nothing to recommend it, except for the fact that Fleming came up with it. 

[Professor Pi]

If Fleming had scribbled "Jimmy Takes a Poo" on a cocktail napkin, some fan would insist that it should be used as the title for the next Bond film. "007 in New York" really has nothing to recommend it, except for the fact that Fleming came up with it. 

 

True!  If memory serves, the story itself is Bond mulling over a recipe while on an airplane. 

 

[Walecs]

As much as I love most of Fleming creations, I think 007 in New York (both the story and the title) suck.

 

It would be a nice nod to the fans including it in a dialogue like:

[M and Tanner talking about a Bond's mission]

M: Where are Quantum operatives?

Tanner: They've been chased by 007 in New York.

 

Yet, it would look like just a coincidence.

[AMC Hornet]

"Where's 007?"

"In New York."

[Pussfeller]

Specifically, in Buffalo. He spends most of the film bowling and eating hot wings. 

[Aziz Fekkesh]

"007 in New York" is so prosaic - it also sounds like the title of an Asterix book.

 

For no VERY good reason I've always thought that "Another Man's Poison" would be a good Bond title. Arguably, it could be seen to be vaguely homoerotic for which the Hashima-Island-server-farm-tied-to-a-chair scene paved the way.

 

I also like "Property of a Lady" and any number of chapter titles.

 

"All Cats are Grey in the Dark"

"Death for Breakfast"

"All the Time in the World"

 

Must dash. Gibson time.

 

Aziz

 

 

P.S. - Ooh! I'm a Midshipman! Lovely.

Edited by Aziz Fekkesh, 27 January 2013 - 10:51 PM.

[S K Y F A L L]

I can't imagine them using 007 In New York unless they change it which I think they should because they haven't used a country in a title since From Russia With Love.

Something like Operation New York would work for me. 

[Aziz Fekkesh]

"New Amsterdamned"? (sort of done already)

 

"From Soho to SoHo"?

 

"Skyscraper"?

 

"Stainless Steel Deli"?

 

 

Okay, giving it a rest.

Aziz

Edited by Aziz Fekkesh, 28 January 2013 - 12:38 AM.

[rubixcub]

Glad to see SHATTERHAND got a welcome reception.

 

I tend to like the one-word titles; they always have a 'big' feel to them.

 

THE PROPERTY OF A LADY is my other favorite, mainly because it has a similar sound to titles like THE SPY WHO LOVED ME or FOR YOUR EYES ONLY.  Plus, it's been over 20 years since we've had a "romantic" Bond theme and I think the title would lend itself well to that.

 

I would favor SH for 24 and TPOAL for 25, but that's just my personal preference.

 

Dave

Edited by rubixcub, 30 January 2013 - 11:15 PM.

[Aziz Fekkesh]

Ooh! Now I'm even MORE in favour of "The Property of a Lady" because of the abbreviation "TPOAL"! Seriously, it's almost as good as TWINE.

 

Talking of ladies' property, I recently visited the Marjorie Meriweather Post mansion in DC where you can't heave a brick without hitting a Fabergé egg. That woman must have had it in sackfuls.

Edited by Aziz Fekkesh, 02 February 2013 - 12:42 PM.

[007jamesbond]

oh great! that poster with the capital letters.... 

 

something not have the words Die, death, or kill as it end up a crappy movie 

[Iceskater101]

Eh Property of a Lady seems kind of stupid to me. I don't know why, I like the generic Quantum of Solace and Skyfall. Those sound really bad ass. I don't know how they would work Property of a Lady in the story.

[seawolfnyy]

Eh Property of a Lady seems kind of stupid to me. I don't know why, I like the generic Quantum of Solace and Skyfall. Those sound really bad ass. I don't know how they would work Property of a Lady in the story.

Well they managed to work 'Octopussy' into the story....

[DaveBond21]

"007 in New York" is so prosaic - it also sounds like the title of an Asterix book.

 

For no VERY good reason I've always thought that "Another Man's Poison" would be a good Bond title. Arguably, it could be seen to be vaguely homoerotic for which the Hashima-Island-server-farm-tied-to-a-chair scene paved the way.

 

I also like "Property of a Lady" and any number of chapter titles.

 

"All Cats are Grey in the Dark"

"Death for Breakfast"

"All the Time in the World"

 

Must dash. Gibson time.

 

Aziz

 

 

P.S. - Ooh! I'm a Midshipman! Lovely.

 

All the Time in the World is an interesting one with a nod to Bond history.

 

 

 

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[Pussfeller]

I also like it. Dialogue from past films could be a rich source of titles. One line in FRWL comes to mind:

 

Give a Wolf a Taste 

[Aziz Fekkesh]

I quite like that!

 

Is that one of Kerim's lines from FRWL?

 

How about:

 

"Blunt Instrument" (CR)

"Spend the Money Quickly" (O)

"Nobody Has to See You Leave" (LTK)

"Straight Up, With a Twist" (GE)

"Shaken, Not Stirred" (TSWLM et al)

 

Oops, it's Gibson time again.

[AMC Hornet]

When EON uses "Shaken, Not Stirred" as a film title I'll know that the well has finally run dry.

 

Indeed there are lines - not only from the films, but the books as well - that would make good titles. Even some film score track titles have merit. Next time I watch/read/ listen through I'll make a note of some of them.

[Single-O-Seven]

"007 in New York" is so prosaic - it also sounds like the title of an Asterix book.

 

For no VERY good reason I've always thought that "Another Man's Poison" would be a good Bond title. Arguably, it could be seen to be vaguely homoerotic for which the Hashima-Island-server-farm-tied-to-a-chair scene paved the way.

 

I also like "Property of a Lady" and any number of chapter titles.

 

"All Cats are Grey in the Dark"

"Death for Breakfast"

"All the Time in the World"

 

Must dash. Gibson time.

 

Aziz

 

 

P.S. - Ooh! I'm a Midshipman! Lovely.

 

All the Time in the World is an interesting one with a nod to Bond history.

 

 

 

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If the OHMSS plot or Bond/Tracy story is ever re-told in some form, then All the Time in the World would make a suitable title for it.

[Walecs]

 

"007 in New York" is so prosaic - it also sounds like the title of an Asterix book.

 

For no VERY good reason I've always thought that "Another Man's Poison" would be a good Bond title. Arguably, it could be seen to be vaguely homoerotic for which the Hashima-Island-server-farm-tied-to-a-chair scene paved the way.

 

I also like "Property of a Lady" and any number of chapter titles.

 

"All Cats are Grey in the Dark"

"Death for Breakfast"

"All the Time in the World"

 

Must dash. Gibson time.

 

Aziz

 

 

P.S. - Ooh! I'm a Midshipman! Lovely.

 

All the Time in the World is an interesting one with a nod to Bond history.

 

 

 

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If the OHMSS plot or Bond/Tracy story is ever re-told in some form, then All the Time in the World would make a suitable title for it.

 

Totally agree! Now I want this done!

[FutureJamesBond]

I don't know if anyone here remembers this, but there was a fake title for Bond 23 (Skyfall) called "Red Sky at Night." I liked it, it actually sounds like a Bond movie to me.

[Single-O-Seven]

I don't know if anyone here remembers this, but there was a fake title for Bond 23 (Skyfall) called "Red Sky at Night." I liked it, it actually sounds like a Bond movie to me.

After having seen the film I'd say there is some merit to that title having been considered, as it certainly fits the climax of the film. I'm happier with Skyfall however.

[Pussfeller]

And if they ever do a campy remake of TSWLM, they could call it "Sailor's Delight". 

[TheSilhouette]

One of the titles for an early draft of Skyfall was "Once Upon A Spy"

[Leon]

If Fleming had scribbled "Jimmy Takes a Poo" on a cocktail napkin, some fan would insist that it should be used as the title for the next Bond film. "007 in New York" really has nothing to recommend it, except for the fact that Fleming came up with it. 

 

Haha, so bluntly put, I completely agree with the sentiment. I do feel it's easy to get too hung up on scraping the Fleming barrel for titles. I've seen many people suggesting things taken from the books such as, 'The Undertaker's Wind'.. a flatulent villain? '007 in New York' sounds ridiculous for a film title. What to follow it, 'James Bond Goes on Holiday'? '007's Big Day Out'?
 

 

Eh Property of a Lady seems kind of stupid to me. I don't know why, I like the generic Quantum of Solace and Skyfall. Those sound really bad ass. I don't know how they would work Property of a Lady in the story.

 

Indeed, that title is just not a Bond movie title. To be frank, even the short story it's from was some of Fleming's duller work. I thought Skyfall was a great effort, very Fleming-esque. Quantum of Solace I didn't mind, but I could still understand why so many people thought it was just a bit weak. The actual movie bugged me much more though.

 

The Death Collector is the only Fleming-based title I think would be good really. Risico would be ok I guess, but it's such a specific title. I don't know how many people suggesting Risico know that the word was used jokingly as a mish-mash, half English word in conversation with a Corsican. It does mean risk but in Dutch, so they could get straight to work shoehorning in some Dutch connection...maybe Bond could go get baked in a coffeeshop in Amsterdam.. a chase sequence through the canals on mushrooms.

[The Shark]

Bring on SHATTERHAND.

[Leon]

Bring on SHATTERHAND.

Shat a hand.

[AMC Hornet]

Just watched an old episode of Man in a Suitcase (The Whisper) where Colin Blakely's character - a former mercenary - was referred to as "the Death Collector."

That's what Dr. Guntram Shatterhand was called in the chapter of the same in You Only Live Twice.

I've seen that title suggested in this very forum, so it's out there - unless some people still think it's still to close to Jeffrey Deaver's The Bone Collector?

[Revelator]

A while back I went through all of Fleming's chapter titles to see if any could be usable film titles. I came up with the following list. Obviously not every  title will be to everyone's liking, but it's an interesting enough pool to select from:

 

A Whisper of Love, A Whisper of Hate

Cards With a Stranger

The Eye That Never Sleeps

Bitter Champagne

We Don't Like Mistakes

The Job Comes Second

Death is So Permanent

The Slaughterer

The Wizard of Ice

The Beautiful Lure

Black on Pink

The Killing Bottle

Ten Pints of Blood

The Finger on the Trigger

The Long Scream

Reflections in a Double Bourbon

The Pressure Room

Crime de la Crime

The Richest Man in History

Take It Easy Mr. Bond

SPECTRE

How to Eat a Girl

When the Kissing Stopped

The Shadower

The Gambit of Shame

Death For Breakfast

Downhill Only

Fork Left For Hell

Blood-lift

Hell's Delight

The Death Collector

Slay It With Flowers

The Question Room

Blood and Thunder

The Easy Grand

 

I'm rather fond of: "A Whisper of Love, A Whisper of Hate" (a good candidate should the producers go back to long titles), "The Job Comes Second," "The Wizard of Ice" (though I have no idea how the hell they'd work it into a movie), "Black On Pink" (gambling and sex connotations), "The Long Scream" (nice and punchy), "Crime de la Crime", "Take It Easy Mr. Bond" (I know, it's goofy, but it has a nice ring to it), "How to Eat a Girl" (filthy!), "The Shadower" (not a real word, but evocative nonetheless), "The Gambit of Shame", "Blood-lift" (you could turn it into a one word title like Skyfall), any of the hell titles (including the title Fleming almost used for OHMSS: "The Belles of Hell"), and "Blood and Thunder," which is both attention-grabbing and was once an often-used phrase for James Bond-style action stories.