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[SecretAgentFan]

I would be surprised if Quantum did not return. It is the new SPECTRE and they have set it up perfectly.

[BourneAgainBond]

wow thats all news to me
its to bad i hate when they leave things unanswered like what ever happened to mrwhite and i hate how bad the bond films are for recasting recurring characters
you just can't win
but i hope that they do bring back him and his character for dc's last 007 film to bring me closure and keep me interestingly invested into more films, its hard to do that when all you have to look forward to is another stand alone film, if not it will only clarify what i think of as a poor attempt at "rebooting" the series simply to apply to younger audiences with adding childish dialog and scenes to make more money without any thought about how a series of films may play out. i believe someone on here once said they thought i was a futurist for saying that they should plan a few films out for the rebooted series i guess they think that one of these days a bond film will lose money and they'll just fold up shop and call it quits or sometime in the foreseeable future we'll have world peace

"all the people die in them" i've noticed that everyone dc's bond has slept with has died from the tallywacker of death

"i know it was to early to promote you"

[Skudor]

To me the big problem with Quantum is the ludicrous name. Whether or not it was picked to make if fit with Quantum of Solace or not doesn't really matter - it's a silly name for an evil organisation in the mold of SPECTRE (which itself only works because it's a classic name now - any replacement risks being like its endless parodies in other films). Much better to leave it nameless as in Casino Royale and loosely fit various villains to it where it makes sense (perhaps through the elusive Mr White). It could have been great, but the Quantum name demeans it.

[Shrublands]

To me the big problem with Quantum is the ludicrous name. Whether or not it was picked to make if fit with Quantum of Solace or not doesn't really matter - it's a silly name for an evil organisation in the mold of SPECTRE (which itself only works because it's a classic name for now - any replacement risks being like it's endless parodies in other films). Much better to leave it nameless as in Casino Royale and loosely fit various villains to it where it makes sense (perhaps through the elusive Mr White). It could have been great, but the Quantum name demeans it.

Agreed... and it manages to make Quantum of Solace an even more daft name for the film too.

[Pussfeller]

There's no legal impediment to using SPECTRE. I don't know why they avoid a name with such cachet and history, unless they feel that they can't resurrect SPECTRE without also resurrecting Blofeld. But considering that Blofeld wasn't even named on screen until YOLT, there's no reason they couldn't just have an anonymous, faceless Number One, or no visible leadership at all.

[Captain Tightpants]

i was watching TSWLM the other day and was thinking maybe albert's character is like Karl Stormbergs and javier bardem is like jews, doesn't die and returns in bond24 working for quantum or something. just seems like there is a lot happening in the movie that it might work and it keeps you invested into another dc film. what do you think of how wrong i am?

Very wrong. Javier Bardem has been confirmed as the primary villain for some time now. It was also confirmed at the November press conference that SKYFALL has nothing to do with CR or QOS.

[BourneAgainBond]

i was watching TSWLM the other day and was thinking maybe albert's character is like Karl Stormbergs and javier bardem is like jews, doesn't die and returns in bond24 working for quantum or something. just seems like there is a lot happening in the movie that it might work and it keeps you invested into another dc film. what do you think of how wrong i am?

Very wrong. Javier Bardem has been confirmed as the primary villain for some time now. It was also confirmed at the November press conference that SKYFALL has nothing to do with CR or QOS.

Very right. They did say that and
very right there is no possibility that bond24 could have anything to do with or any relation to CR, QOS, and SF, that is set in stone period
very right primary villains only have one possible out come and he wont return to do more bond films its never happened before right
very right hes a main villain and only henchman can return to do more bond films i must have been confused

thanks for the laugh captain i haven't laughed that hard since i read your idea about the year of the dragon or some dumbcrap
its just perfect cause even though it suck my balls it applies to the largest single population in human history so it could really reach a large audience,
did you work with them on CR? if i understand correctly it was the first bond film to be released in china which is why i think it is so overrated.

sorry moderators but if you let this d ick make stupid comments like that towards any one who may have an idea and thinks to express it on what they thought was a bond forum for bond fans to do so them i suppose these comments of mine are as just as his, considering i'm just 1 of a few who would say hes a "post Nazi" just like a nazi his comments are cruel and his ideas are s hit, its be fun captain f uckface lets do it again some time

Edited by BourneAgainBond, 10 February 2012 - 10:18 AM.

[Vauxhall]

Classy stuff. Punctuation might give your post even more credibility.

[Captain Tightpants]

Punctuation might give your post even more credibility.

Or, you know, the coherent expression of ideas.

But hey, it's an internet forum. Making a post that can actually be read and understood is so 2011.

[Shrublands]

His punctuation reminds me of someone else that we once had around here.

[Captain Tightpants]

He has punctuation?

[Shrublands]

Well, lack of...

[BourneAgainBond]

ad hominem thats it

[Shrublands]

ad hominem thats it

Not quite. Yesterday, I had to read one of your posts twice before I could (sort of) understand what you were saying – punctuation would've helped you make your point.

[Captain Tightpants]

ad hominem thats it

So that justifies your abusive rant?

It's ironic, because ad hominem means to try and negate the truth of an argument by highlighting the negative characteristics of the person making the argument - which is precisely what you did when you referred to me as "captain face" and accused me of having " ideas".

Do you honestly believe that is in any way going to save you from the moderators? The only reason why you haven't been banned yet is because a moderator hasn't seen the post. Yet.

[BourneAgainBond]

that was only after i mad my arguments. you are still doing it.
do you understand that your first reply to my post,
implies that because skyfall is not connected to CR or QOS that bond 24 would also have nothing to do with CR, QOS or SF?

i understand the moderators may ban me b/c of my poor language and after you all made it so clear possibly b/c of my poor sentence structure and grammar

but i don't think i could careless if i was banned from a forum that completely dismisses someones points simply because of punctuation's and spends half a page of a thread completely avoiding the main topic

[Vauxhall]

...and spends half a page of a thread completely avoiding the main topic

Coincidentally, the deviation stemmed from one of your posts.

Back on topic: I imagine BOND 24 will certainly reference the events of SKYFALL, if one assumes that there's a change in M, but I don't think there will be a CASINO ROYALE / QUANTUM OF SOLACE sequel-style continuity.

[DamnCoffee]

Be careful, BourneAgainBond.

[Jim]

i was watching TSWLM the other day and was thinking maybe albert's character is like Karl Stormbergs and javier bardem is like jews, doesn't die and returns in bond24 working for quantum or something. just seems like there is a lot happening in the movie that it might work and it keeps you invested into another dc film. what do you think of how wrong i am?

Very wrong. Javier Bardem has been confirmed as the primary villain for some time now. It was also confirmed at the November press conference that SKYFALL has nothing to do with CR or QOS.

Gently now. Thundering in like that might provoke an adverse reaction.

i was watching TSWLM the other day and was thinking maybe albert's character is like Karl Stormbergs and javier bardem is like jews, doesn't die and returns in bond24 working for quantum or something. just seems like there is a lot happening in the movie that it might work and it keeps you invested into another dc film. what do you think of how wrong i am?

Very wrong. Javier Bardem has been confirmed as the primary villain for some time now. It was also confirmed at the November press conference that SKYFALL has nothing to do with CR or QOS.

Very right. They did say that and
very right there is no possibility that bond24 could have anything to do with or any relation to CR, QOS, and SF, that is set in stone period
very right primary villains only have one possible out come and he wont return to do more bond films its never happened before right
very right hes a main villain and only henchman can return to do more bond films i must have been confused

thanks for the laugh captain i haven't laughed that hard since i read your idea about the year of the dragon or some dumbcrap
its just perfect cause even though it suck my balls it applies to the largest single population in human history so it could really reach a large audience,
did you work with them on CR? if i understand correctly it was the first bond film to be released in china which is why i think it is so overrated.

sorry moderators but if you let this d ick make stupid comments like that towards any one who may have an idea and thinks to express it on what they thought was a bond forum for bond fans to do so them i suppose these comments of mine are as just as his, considering i'm just 1 of a few who would say hes a "post Nazi" just like a nazi his comments are cruel and his ideas are s hit, its be fun captain f uckface lets do it again some time

Almost immediately, as it turns out.

Is it the most damning criticism of the Nazis that their comments were cruel? The absolute rotters, with their bitchiness about the size of one's botty-bot and general garb preferences. Tsk! The Nazis, eh? Complete and utter acid-tongued stinkers, to a man. The big naughties.

You'll probably find, 'pon browsing a telephone directory, a Captain F Uckface. How he must have suffered; especially if he was up against the Nazis and their devastating put-downs.

I'm not going to ban you; I think you're rather lovely and will keep you as some sort of pet, or perhaps some vegetation.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, I hope you can teach him to behave. Or at least cut off unwanted branches.

It would also help to teach him the pleasures of interpunction.

[Jim]

It would also help to teach him the pleasures of interpunction.

I suspect it's underage.

[DamnCoffee]

I'm not going to ban you; I think you're rather lovely and will keep you as some sort of pet, or perhaps some vegetation.

I honestly can't stop laughing.

[Skudor]

I for one would love to see SPECTRE return, but as they've gone down the Quantum route it'd be nice of them to close the loop on that (even if it's only a matter of throwing Mr White down a huge phallus of some sort and minor references to having wrapped it all up).

[Pussfeller]

It would be simple enough to have Quantum turn out to be a subsidiary of SPECTRE.

[BourneAgainBond]

It would be simple enough to have Quantum turn out to be a subsidiary of SPECTRE.

i like it and would totally by into it. i could see a film about bond getting to the bottom of quantum only to find out its the tip of the iceberg.

[Captain Tightpants]

It would be simple enough to have Quantum turn out to be a subsidiary of SPECTRE.

"Chuck" did that. FULCRUM, the villains of the first two seasons, where revealed to be one arm of The Ring. And it sucked. There was no real explanation as to who either FULCRUM or The Ring were, and the whole thing reeked of the writers trying to use the credibility of FULCRUM to make The Ring seem like a worse villain by comparison.

If it has to be done - and I see no reason why, beyond fanservice (which should be avoided at all costs) - is to explain the following:

"Quantum is not new to this world, Mr. Bond. They have existed for decades, under various names, each one serving their needs. They started as the Phoebus Cartel in the 1930s. With the outbreak of war in Europe, they became the Trilateral Commission. Then the Majestic-12, and after that, the Bilderberg Group. There was even a time they existed as Ridolfi, Babington & Throckmorton, a law firm in London. And then they called themselves Quantum, at least until you came along. They may have disappeared for now, but with a new name and a new face, they will come back, and nobody will be any the wiser. The Freemasons? The Illuminati? The unnamed Zionist conspiracy that sought to destroy Clinton? Compared to Quantum, they are amateurs. And although they are no doubt plotting your absolute destruction, to them, it is nothing more than good business."

And then reveal that their latest iteration is SPECTRE.

[SecretAgentFan]

On the other hand, why does a crime syndication need a name? Those people surely know who they are. Do they want the attention that comes with branding?

"Just so you know, Mr. Bond. For future reference: it´s SPECTRE. Not QUANTUM. We put it to a vote and most of us liked the SPECTRE name. It makes for a better logo and has the nostalgia factor. But please, don´t tell anybody that we exist since we want to operate without interference by the outside world."

[Captain Tightpants]

On the other hand, why does a crime syndication need a name? Those people surely know who they are.

However much they try to hide it, they have a public face. Quantum operated through Greene Planet in South America, and it was made clear that members of their organisation were well known in the mining and telecommunications industries.

Also, I really like the idea of an evil law firm - "Ridolfi, Babington and Throckmorton" - that was named for three separate plots to assassinate the Queen. This doesn't have to (and shouldn't) be directly referenced in the story, but rather, exist as a name that people can pick up on if they're sharp-eyed.

[BourneAgainBond]

It would be simple enough to have Quantum turn out to be a subsidiary of SPECTRE.

i like it and would totally by into it. i could see a film about bond getting to the bottom of quantum only to find out its the tip of the iceberg.

spectre is made up of the top criminal organizations which is why i think it could work. at the same time though spectre is so iconic and has been left untouched for so long it might be better left alone.

when i start i asking myself questions about it, i feel like there is to many grey areas; who would be in charge of it? would that mean blofled return? if its truly a "reboot" would they attempt a blofled/spectre origin story? which would never live up to the original. if i remember correctly, blofled was part Polish and worked for that government but was selling secrets to the germans for their planned invasion, before the start of ww2.

anyway back to OFFICIAL skyfall synopsis

do you think in skyfall or any future bond films will ever do what they did in GE and have a PTS set in the past (9 years ago) or is that something that we'll probably never see again?

[marktmurphy]

14.30 mins in:
http://player.stv.tv...012-02-10-1800/

This guy seems think it's Bond's dad house in Scotland...