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[iBond]

Okay, I respect Roger Moore as James Bond...but his first gun barrel sequence...it's just not that good. I mean, I dig the way he looks without the bell bottoms we've been stuck with for his last five films, but he just aims really poorly. He shoots before he even has a chance to aim the gun. Does anyone agree with this? Even for you Moore fans out there, you must admit that it does get a little annoying seeing him shoot before he aims. This really gets to me...ugh.

[Capsule in Space]

Okay, I respect Roger Moore as James Bond...but his first gun barrel sequence...it's just not that good. I mean, I dig the way he looks without the bell bottoms we've been stuck with for his last five films, but he just aims really poorly. He shoots before he even has a chance to aim the gun. Does anyone agree with this? Even for you Moore fans out there, you must admit that it does get a little annoying seeing him shoot before he aims. This really gets to me...ugh.

Let me play Devil's Advocate here, iBond. With all due respect, Roger was the best at this! Bob Simmons practically flies out of frame, Sean Connery about falls over, and then there is Lazenby. Lazenby's wasn't too bad, I actually like the "treadmill effect" and the drop to one knee. Dalton's left arm looks like it is going to come out of its socket. Brosnan's is pretty good. His approach is very "matter of fact" like Moore's. I don't like anything that Craig does as Bond, so that leaves Moore the winner! In my opinion.

My favorite sequence is the one used in For Your Eyes Only. The 1980's style electric guitar, coupled with some copious amounts of cow bell, and the graceful Moore sauntering into frame to open fire with his PPK makes this one the best in the series. Do you have a favorite?

Edited by Capsule in Space, 24 March 2011 - 07:42 PM.

[cpt. sir dominic flandry]

Anyone remember that unused Dalton one where he literally jumped before shooting? I tend to agree with capsule that Rog was pretty good at these gun barrel capers.

[Capsule in Space]

Anyone remember that unused Dalton one where he literally jumped before shooting? I tend to agree with capsule that Rog was pretty good at these gun barrel capers.

I've never seen that Dalton clip, but it sounds like it was a bad idea.

[Syndicate]

Just for fun anyone if it on youtube. So that we can just check it out.

[Mr. Blofeld]

It's not on YouTube; I've checked before.

Also, this...

I don't like anything that Craig does as Bond

...instantly makes me disqualify your opinion on anything, Capsule; well done. You've gone against the grain on here, but now everybody hates you for it.

[Safari Suit]

Everyone, eh? Personally I find it pretty hard to hate a seemingly benign individual I've never met just because he doesn't like Daniel Craig, so maybe I'm not a real fan and should turn in my CBN membership card. Not owning one, that might prove tricky

[Royal Dalton]

Roger's 'blazer, flares and kipper tie' gunbarrel, from The Spy Who Loved Me trailer was good.

Dalton's gunbarrel is the best. The proper one, that is, not the hop, skip and jump version.

[Turn]

I don't mind the first Moore gunbarrel, but he's so slow on the draw in the second it makes you grateful for his sake Scaramanga cheated during the beach dual.

I may just like Dalton's the best, the complete package. Brosnan's looks good in the tux and walk but is far too stiff in the shot. And he aims so high, you hope he was aiming at an NBA player or Jaws.

Same with Craig, although he's more vertically challenged. That walk is more like a march. Please let him do a new one.

[DR76]

Both of Roger Moore's gun barrels were the best of the bunch. Why? Because he was the only one who held and aimed the gun properly. Which is ironic, considering his views on firearms.

I don't mind the first Moore gunbarrel, but he's so slow on the draw in the second it makes you grateful for his sake Scaramanga cheated during the beach dual.

It's about holding and aiming the gun properly, not being the fastest on the draw. You can be a fast draw and still be a lousy shot.

[jrcjohnny99]

I agree with most on here; Roger's is one of the best ones...
whats funny about your post tho is the subtitle 'Epic Fail";
That's one of those expressions that makes anyone using it sound 12 years old.
Not trying to be a dick but that phrase is so juvenile.

[David Schofield]

Everyone, eh? Personally I find it pretty hard to hate a seemingly benign individual I've never met just because he doesn't like Daniel Craig, so maybe I'm not a real fan and should turn in my CBN membership card. Not owning one, that might prove tricky

Seconded.

[Jim]

Everyone, eh? Personally I find it pretty hard to hate a seemingly benign individual I've never met just because he doesn't like Daniel Craig, so maybe I'm not a real fan and should turn in my CBN membership card. Not owning one, that might prove tricky

Seconded.

Thirded.

[Is that a word? It looks grotesque]

Rich variety of opinion is nice, as long as it's not all one-note anti-X, whatever X may be, which can become really very dull really very quickly.

[David_M]

I have to confess I don't understand the obsession with "the gunbarrel sequence." It's spawned numerous threads here and seemingly countless YouTube clips. Why? Bond walks in and shoots the gun, then it's over. I grant you it gave me a great thrill every time I saw it on the big screen (especially in the days before VHS and DVD, when it signaled a long-sought reunion with my hero), but really, if it's the highlight of the whole film, then the film is in big trouble. I mean, do Trekkies argue about whether it's cooler when the Enterprise zooms left-to-right in the opening credits to reveal Shatner's name or right-to-left for Nimoy's?

That said, I always thought Roger did it best. I like the way he seems to be just strolling along harmlessly until he shoots you..."La-di-dah-di- BANG!" Seems to fit his personality. Though he's also cool, I get the opposite vibe from Craig, who would look dangerous even while sleeping. His approach is more like, "I'm gonna kill somebody...I'm gonna kill somebody...how about...YOU!!"

[Jump James]

I have to confess I don't understand the obsession with "the gunbarrel sequence." It's spawned numerous threads here and seemingly countless You Tube clips. Why? Bond walks in and shoots the gun, then it's over. I grant you it gave me a great thrill every time I saw it on the big screen (especially in the days before VHS and DVD, when it signaled a long-sought reunion with my hero), but really, if it's the highlight of the whole film, then the film is in big trouble. I mean, do Trekkies argue about whether it's cooler when the Enterprise zooms left-to-right in the opening credits to reveal Shatner's name or right-to-left for Nimoy's?

That said, I always thought Roger did it best. I like the way he seems to be just strolling along harmlessly until he shoots you..."La-di-dah-di- BANG!" Seems to fit his personality. Though he's also cool, I get the opposite vibe from Craig, who would look dangerous even while sleeping. His approach is more like, "I'm gonna kill somebody...I'm gonna kill somebody...how about...YOU!!"

I don't think it's the highlight, but for some nerd-like reason it interests me enough to spend 8 minutes watching all the gunbarrel sequences on Youtube and decided who was this worstest and who was the bestest. It's like a mini/espresso Bondathon. The stuntman on the first few was probably the worstest.Craig is perhaps the bestest. And Rog was fine but the legs didn't look like much support.

[iBond]

Okay, I respect Roger Moore as James Bond...but his first gun barrel sequence...it's just not that good. I mean, I dig the way he looks without the bell bottoms we've been stuck with for his last five films, but he just aims really poorly. He shoots before he even has a chance to aim the gun. Does anyone agree with this? Even for you Moore fans out there, you must admit that it does get a little annoying seeing him shoot before he aims. This really gets to me...ugh.

Let me play Devil's Advocate here, iBond. With all due respect, Roger was the best at this! Bob Simmons practically flies out of frame, Sean Connery about falls over, and then there is Lazenby. Lazenby's wasn't too bad, I actually like the "treadmill effect" and the drop to one knee. Dalton's left arm looks like it is going to come out of its socket.

Yeah, but at least they all aim correctly. Connery is pretty awesome at doing it as well.

[Mr. Blofeld]

Rich variety of opinion is nice, as long as it's not all one-note anti-X, whatever X may be, which can become really very dull really very quickly.

I agree that "anti-X" seems to have become the norm, here; I hereby retract and apologize for my comments. Sorry, Capsule.

[iBond]

I have to confess I don't understand the obsession with "the gunbarrel sequence." It's spawned numerous threads here and seemingly countless YouTube clips. Why?

Because this is a message board and we can talk about it.

Edited by iBond, 25 March 2011 - 05:24 PM.

[0077]

I like them all. I have yet to find a gunbarrel sequence that I have yet to dislike. You know you're a diehard fan when you can pick a favorite sequence.

[Capsule in Space]

It is evident that I don't like Daniel Craig, and I don't like what EON is doing with James Bond. I think if EON continues in the direction they are taking then that will hurt the series. Many of you disagree with that assessment, and that is fine.

This forum has several threads criticizing Connery's weight in YOLT and DAF, Moore's age, and Brosnan's "model looks" and "pain faces". I happen to like all three of those actors, and I don't take it as a personal affront when they are criticized. Hopefully, no one takes it personally when I am critical of the Craig Era.

Perhaps many of you in this forum have only seen the negatives comments I have posted. If you want to see my positive side then check out the sections for Sean Connery, Roger Moore, and Pierce Brosnan.

Cheers!

I have to confess I don't understand the obsession with "the gunbarrel sequence." It's spawned numerous threads here and seemingly countless YouTube clips. Why?

Because this is a message board and we can talk about it.

Did you mention which one was your favorite yet, iBond? I'm curious.

Rich variety of opinion is nice, as long as it's not all one-note anti-X, whatever X may be, which can become really very dull really very quickly.

I agree that "anti-X" seems to have become the norm, here; I hereby retract and apologize for my comments. Sorry, Capsule.

Thank you Mr. Blofeld. We can put this behind us and move on with the discussion.

[jaguar007]

I just watched all the gunbarels and I think my favorite is Moore's second one. I also like Lazenby as his was very fluid. He certainly had the cockiest walk in his gun barrel. I like the stance of Craig in the CR opening but thought he walked too fast in the QoS.

[David_M]

And Rog was fine but the legs didn't look like much support.

Roger's legs don't bother me here, but they do freak me out in photos where he's in shorts or swim trunks. They're really skinny, aren't they? Almost sickly looking. In this respect, I think he actually benefited from being the "bell-bottom Bond." Those trousers did a good job of hiding the old toothpicks.

Because this is a message board and we can talk about it.

Well of course you can, I'm just wondering why you do. Anything in the books or films is fair game, it's just interesting to me that this facet draws so much more attention than, say, "best trampoline work in a Binder title sequence" or "which pre-gunbarrel logo was cooler: Transamerica, MGM-UA or Sony?"

[jaguar007]

"which pre-gunbarrel logo was cooler: Transamerica, MGM-UA or Sony?"

Clearly the one that was used originally from Dr.No-TB

[Satorious]

You know what? My favourite is actually the Bog-barrel one (Craig in CR). No idea why - it is just slick and cool, especially considering it's setting - it was a good pose and had just the right amount of urgency. But all this cool was completely undone by the hunchback approach he adopted for the QOS one. I think the Lazenby gunbarrel is pretty darn good.

ps. Other question - Transamerica. I miss that one!

Transamerica - yeah!!!

Edited by Satorious, 25 March 2011 - 11:25 PM.

[jrcjohnny99]

"which pre-gunbarrel logo was cooler: Transamerica, MGM-UA or Sony?"

Clearly the one that was used originally from Dr.No-TB

I'm totally a 70s Transamerica logo guy, the emerging into the "T" one...reminds me of when I fisrt started going to Bond pics...

[0077]

It is evident that I don't like Daniel Craig, and I don't like what EON is doing with James Bond. I think if EON continues in the direction they are taking then that will hurt the series. Many of you disagree with that assessment, and that is fine.

This forum has several threads criticizing Connery's weight in YOLT and DAF, Moore's age, and Brosnan's "model looks" and "pain faces". I happen to like all three of those actors, and I don't take it as a personal affront when they are criticized. Hopefully, no one takes it personally when I am critical of the Craig Era.

Perhaps many of you in this forum have only seen the negatives comments I have posted. If you want to see my positive side then check out the sections for Sean Connery, Roger Moore, and Pierce Brosnan.

Cheers

With due respect, you seem like someone who flat out refuses to watch the new movies and have formed your opinion since Daniel was first cast. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Bond movies of the present. Ignorance is not always bliss and you need to realize that 'the old ways' are over and probably will never come back.

The reboot needed to happen because the 95-02 era was truly destroying James Bond. My only regret is that the era never happening or becoming embarrassing in the first place.

[O.H.M.S.S.]

Personally I prefer the more athletic gunbarrels (Connery, Lazenby, Dalton) though I do love the FYEO and GE gunbarrels because of the excellent music that accompanies the sequence.

[Capsule in Space]

With due respect, you seem like someone who flat out refuses to watch the new movies and have formed your opinion since Daniel was first cast.

I saw Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace when they opened in theaters back in 2006 and 2008. The basis of my opinions regarding the Craig Era were formed after seeing the films.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Bond movies of the present.

I respectfully disagree. They are producing an inferior product that doesn't result in enough net revenue.

Ignorance is not always bliss and you need to realize that 'the old ways' are over and probably will never come back.

You are probably right that EON will no longer produce traditional Bond films, but hopefully they are pressured to change directions.

The reboot needed to happen because the 95-02 era was truly destroying James Bond. My only regret is that the era never happening or becoming embarrassing in the first place.

The Brosnan Era was very successful. The films' box office receipts and home video sales were near the top of the earnings list for each year they were released. More importantly, Brosnan's film performances garnered high net revenues. Brosnan reinvigorated the franchise after the Dalton Era and a six year hiatus. EON should have rewarded Brosnan by given him $20 million and percentage of the profits for a fifth Bond film.

[0077]

But Bronsan's films gradually suffered in story, some direction, and plot. Granted Pierce's movies had some quality elements about them but not many altogether.

And just because his term was successful, look at the by product as a whole. Outside of the Bond fansites the general audience wouldn't care about the character as we all do. They're just watrching the movie for the sake of a Bond movie and nothing else.

Pierce Bronsan is not the be all and end all of James Bond.

[FLEMINGFAN]

By the by, Sir Roger Moore actually did three gunbarrels that the public viewed: One for the trailers (suit), one for his widescreen films (suit) and one for his Panavision films (tuxedo).
Whereas all the others only did one walk through for the gunbarrel that was officially released for their respective films.
(One cannot really count the leaping Dalton one on the rough print or the test ones of Sir Roger wearing a hat and another of him dropping his pants)