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[jaguar007]

True, but their hearts will always remain British...unless Eon sells the rights to Universal or something.

Keep in mind that Cubby, Michael and Barbara are American and Harry was Canadian. I believe Danjaq is based out of Santa Monica.

[Royal Dalton]

The first nine were British.

[iBond]

True, but their hearts will always remain British...unless Eon sells the rights to Universal or something.

...I believe Danjaq is based out of Santa Monica.

Where did you hear that?

[JimmyBond]

True, but their hearts will always remain British...unless Eon sells the rights to Universal or something.

...I believe Danjaq is based out of Santa Monica.

Where did you hear that?

You're on the internet, you don't think it's maybe not so hard to find where it's located?

[iBond]

Just asking where you found it out. I know I'm on the Internet. But nevermind, I'll just look for it on my own.

[Capsule in Space]

The first nine were British.

And I think Moonraker was pretty much French!

[iBond]

Pierce Brosnan was James Bond and will always be James Bond. The same goes to all of the other actors wither you like them or not. I mean, once you play James Bond, as Dalton said, "It's in [your] blood."

[JimmyBond]

Pierce Brosnan was James Bond and will always be James Bond. The same goes to all of the other actors wither you like them or not. I mean, once you play James Bond, as Dalton said, "It's in [your] blood."

I don't think anyone is debating whether or not Pierce Brosnan is and was James Bond. I mean he played a character called James Bond in four movies. That's not in question. What some people are saying is that in the grand scheme of things his four films just don't really stand up to the earlier films. Now I like three out of four of his films but there's only one film of his that I really feel captured the magic of the Best Bond films, and what film that was will surprise you.

[jaguar007]

but there's only one film of his that I really feel captured the magic of the Best Bond films, and what film that was will surprise you.

TND???

[JimmyBond]

but there's only one film of his that I really feel captured the magic of the Best Bond films, and what film that was will surprise you.

TND???

Die Another Day, actually. I know it's not a popular opinion around these parts, but I feel it has Brosnan's best performance as Bond. It's also the funnest of the Brosnan outings, followed by Tomorrow Never Dies.

[iBond]

Nice to see someone give his last film credit. It was enjoyable but I wouldn't call it my favorite of his four films.

[Capsule in Space]

Nice to see someone give his last film credit. It was enjoyable but I wouldn't call it my favorite of his four films.

Here's some more credit, iBond. DAD wasn't that bad of a Bond film, and at the very least it was a lot of fun. Brosnan was superb.

[DR76]

I had high hopes that Brosnan would be cast as Bond back in 1986. But when I saw "THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS", my disappointment ended. However, I also enjoyed Brosnan during his tenure as Bond. And his movies also made a great deal of money. I don't see the reason behind the bad rap.

[jaguar007]

Nice to see someone give his last film credit. It was enjoyable but I wouldn't call it my favorite of his four films.

Here's some more credit, iBond. DAD wasn't that bad of a Bond film, and at the very least it was a lot of fun. Brosnan was superb.

Actually I also don't think DAD is quite as bad as many people do. The last 1/3 is pretty bad but with the exception of a few scenes, the first 2/3 is pretty good. It is still a better movie than TWINE.

[00 Brosnan]

Nice to see someone give his last film credit. It was enjoyable but I wouldn't call it my favorite of his four films.

Here's some more credit, iBond. DAD wasn't that bad of a Bond film, and at the very least it was a lot of fun. Brosnan was superb.

Actually I also don't think DAD is quite as bad as many people do. The last 1/3 is pretty bad but with the exception of a few scenes, the first 2/3 is pretty good. It is still a better movie than TWINE.

There's no doubt in my mind that GE and TND stand far above TWINE and DAD in the overall series. When it comes to TWINE vs DAD... I find DAD to be a much more exciting film to watch, but overall I rank it lower, because when the film is bad...it's really bad.

As Jaguar says minus a couple moments in the first 2/3 of the movie, DAD is pretty good. I never really liked Gustov Graves as a villain, but I thought Zao was pretty interesting. After the Aston Martin scenes on the ice and through the palace (which I think is awesome by the way) the film is hard to watch. Too much CGI, too much Jinx is what brings this movie down all around pretty much.

TWINE isn't quite as exciting overall as DAD, but it's low points aren't near as low as DAD's. The script makes more sense, I think Sophie Marceau (Elektra King) is an excellent & believable villain, the film has some exciting actions scenes of its own, and I find Denise Richards far..far more tolerable than Halle Berry's character Jinx.

[JimmyBond]

I agree with you that Die Another Day is an exciting film to watch, but cannot for the life of me agree that TWINE is good at all It's just a horribly dull film that never rises above mediocrity with horribly staged action sequences (except for the boat chase) and a plot that never allows itself to have any fun, the movie is dull, all the actors give dull performances, and the film is just no fun to watch.

TWINE is without a doubt my least favorite Bond film.

[00 Brosnan]

I admit TWINE isn't the most exciting film in the series by a long shot, but I just can't get myself to rank it lower than DAD.

As I said, I find DAD to be much more exciting, when it's good it's really good, but when it's bad..it's very, very bad. There are certain scenes in DAD that literally embarrass me as a fan of the series...mostly scenes with bad CGI (and there were a few) and everything after the Aston Martin scenes at the Ice Palace when Bond rescues Jinx.

TWINE is more even-keeled, it is mediocre all along you are right.. It's highs aren't as good as DAD's, but it's lows aren't near as bad as DAD's either. Nothing in TWINE makes me embarrassed to be a Bond fan.

[JimmyBond]

TWINE is more even-keeled, it is mediocre all along you are right.. It's highs aren't as good as DAD's, but it's lows aren't near as bad as DAD's either. Nothing in TWINE makes me embarrassed to be a Bond fan.

I can't say I disagree with the first part of that. But I'd rather revel in silliness than revel in mediocrity. TWINE is just not fun to me, periods. Whereas with DAD I just get a kick out of the whole movie. Yes it does dip into the absurd a few too many times in it's second half, but I dig it. It also helps that Brosnan is giving what is probably his best performance as Bond out of his four films.

[jaguar007]

It's highs aren't as good as DAD's, but it's lows aren't near as bad as DAD's either. Nothing in TWINE makes me embarrassed to be a Bond fan.

Personally I think Denise Richards as Christmas Jones is a series low.

As Jimmy Bond said, at least with DAD you can have some fun with it.

[The Shark]

It's highs aren't as good as DAD's, but it's lows aren't near as bad as DAD's either. Nothing in TWINE makes me embarrassed to be a Bond fan.

Personally I think Denise Richards as Christmas Jones is a series low.

Denise Richards is only the silicone tip of the iceberg. There's more.

[00 Brosnan]

It's highs aren't as good as DAD's, but it's lows aren't near as bad as DAD's either. Nothing in TWINE makes me embarrassed to be a Bond fan.

Personally I think Denise Richards as Christmas Jones is a series low.

Lol. I can certainly understand why many people don't like Denise Richards in TWINE. She's no Eva Green as far as acting ability is concerned that's for sure. I just never had much of a problem with her. The role is what it is, it didn't have much depth in the film regardless of who played it.

It's weird for me b/c I generally tend to favor the more action-oriented films in the series like Thunderball, For Your Eyes Only, Live and Let Die, Tomorrow Never Dies, etc.

I'll have to watch DAD again soon with this in my mind. I just have a hard time getting over the prevalent (and poor) CGI and Halle Berry's acting. Those two elements are just so incredibly bad they affect the entire film for me.

Edited by 00 Brosnan, 11 May 2011 - 11:41 AM.

[DR76]

TWINE isn't quite as exciting overall as DAD, but it's low points aren't near as low as DAD's. The script makes more sense, I think Sophie Marceau (Elektra King) is an excellent & believable villain, the film has some exciting actions scenes of its own, and I find Denise Richards far..far more tolerable than Halle Berry's character Jinx.

Lucky Denise Richards. She's tolerated because . . . what? She didn't indulge in a moment of African-American slang? Didn't have the bad luck to be a female agent who got caught twice? Oh I forgot. It's okay for Bond to get caught more than once in a one movie, but's it's not okay for a female government agent to do the same. Especially when she uses street slang in one scene.

[jaguar007]

I certainly would not rank Halle Barry as one of the better Bond girls, but I would not rank her at the bottom with the likes of Denise Richards and Tanya Roberts either.

[iBond]

Ugh, Jinx is far superior to Sutton.

[00 Brosnan]

TWINE isn't quite as exciting overall as DAD, but it's low points aren't near as low as DAD's. The script makes more sense, I think Sophie Marceau (Elektra King) is an excellent & believable villain, the film has some exciting actions scenes of its own, and I find Denise Richards far..far more tolerable than Halle Berry's character Jinx.

Lucky Denise Richards. She's tolerated because . . . what? She didn't indulge in a moment of African-American slang? Didn't have the bad luck to be a female agent who got caught twice? Oh I forgot. It's okay for Bond to get caught more than once in a one movie, but's it's not okay for a female government agent to do the same. Especially when she uses street slang in one scene.

What are you going on about? Another post from you with seemingly racial undertones I see.

I have no problem with Halle Berry the actress. She's a beautiful woman and I personally have dated girls from a variety of races. I don't like what you seem to be insinuating.

I don't like the character Jinx simply because she isn't at all believable as an NSA field operative. She comes off as too soft. There are plenty of examples (in film) of believable female field operatives. They are generally quick-thinking, highly skilled, and well trained physically....Jinx is none of that. Wai Lin in TND is a believable government agent, Jinx...just no. For an NSA agent, she sure sucks at her job. She does have some cringe-worthy lines in the film, but so does Bond.

Richard's role for one wasn't as big as Berry's. That's a big difference right there. Second, while I understand the criticism of Richards cast as Nuclear Scientist, it's a film that doesn't involve very many scientific elements. She's basically there as Bond's love interest and to defuse a bomb in one scene and I didn't find it too unbelievable. She also doesn't have several just plain bad lines/jokes.

Edited by 00 Brosnan, 12 May 2011 - 11:14 AM.

[jamie00007]

As horribly miscast as Denise Richards was, she doesnt have me cringing with every line she speaks like Jinx, to the point where I have to fast forward through some scenes. "you said something about going down... together?" Argh, who comes up with that crap? Denise Richards really wasnt that bad if you can get past the extreme miscasting.

[Capsule in Space]

As horribly miscast as Denise Richards was, she doesnt have me cringing with every line she speaks like Jinx, to the point where I have to fast forward through some scenes. "you said something about going down... together?" Argh, who comes up with that crap? Denise Richards really wasnt that bad if you can get past the extreme miscasting.

The answer is Purvis and Wade. The "geniuses" that brought us Casino Royale

[JimmyBond]

As horribly miscast as Denise Richards was, she doesnt have me cringing with every line she speaks like Jinx, to the point where I have to fast forward through some scenes. "you said something about going down... together?" Argh, who comes up with that crap? Denise Richards really wasnt that bad if you can get past the extreme miscasting.

Actually Jinx says "Looks like we're going down together." And maybe you find that line cringe worthy, but I like it. Because of the way Jinx says it it's as if she has accepted she is going to die in that plane. Only Bond's quick thinking is what keeps them alive.

[jaguar007]

Both Denise Richards and Halle Barry had some very bad dialogue (actually I think Halle had worse dialogue) but I think Barry was better at delivering the lines. At least she came across like she knew it was crap but was going to have fun with it. For all the open space in her little head, Denise came across like she was trying to play an important and serious role, and she just does not have the talent to play an important and serious role.

Also part of my problem is the CHristmas Jones character at all. She seems like an afterthought just so TWINE would not have a downbeat ending. You can take her out of every scene and the movie would play exactly the same with the exception of the romantic "fireworks" ending.

[jamie00007]

It was one lame sex joke too many for me by that point I'm afraid.