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[bondfisher007]

When bond is in the Van with XXX he is laughing and not taking it seriously when jaws is trying to attack them. This ruins the spy who loved me and makes it the worst bond moore film.

[Virgosy]

I agree. It discredits everything.

[Major Tallon]

I've never cared for it either.

[DamnCoffee]

I wouldn't say it ruined the entire movie.

[dinovelvet]

Agreed. If there was any scene that ruined the credibility of a film featuring a seven foot henchman with metal teeth, a villain with an underwater base and giant boat that swallows submarines, and Bond detonating two nuclear warheads with no apparent fallout or after effects on the world, then this is it.

[zencat]

[Agent Leiter]

When bond is in the Van with XXX he is laughing and not taking it seriously when jaws is trying to attack them. This ruins the spy who loved me and makes it the worst bond moore film.

While I don't care much for the scene in question myself, surely it is a bit much to say it alone makes the entire movie bad.

Are there any things in the movie you find to be positives? If so, surely they offset that one scene by a bit?

[00Twelve]

On the other hand, there are Anya's legs in that black dress.

See? Everything evens out.

[elizabeth]

DEAD wrong.

[Bryce (003)]

When bond is in the Van with XXX he is laughing and not taking it seriously when jaws is trying to attack them. This ruins the spy who loved me and makes it the worst bond moore film.

To quote another Bond: "You've got to be joking."

dinovelvet - LOL! Cheers mate!

What he said.

[sharpshooter]

It's probably my favourite Moore Bond scene. Got to love the high class look of disgust Moore gives Jaws, who is at the peak of his rage. Unfazed and unflappable against total bedlam, seeing the humour in such a scenario. I mean, who wouldn't want to be that cool in that situation? If I could, yes I would. But it's human nature to panic and feed adrenaline. But not with Moore Bond. Yin and yang, man!

[bondfisher007]

When bond is in the Van with XXX he is laughing and not taking it seriously when jaws is trying to attack them. This ruins the spy who loved me and makes it the worst bond moore film.

While I don't care much for the scene in question myself, surely it is a bit much to say it alone makes the entire movie bad.

Are there any things in the movie you find to be positives? If so, surely they offset that one scene by a bit?

The 2nd half of the movie is really well done. after bond leaves the train is when the movie starts to be awesome. the 1st half is really boring with bond chasing jaws and acting like a comedian

[Vauxhall]

When bond is in the Van with XXX he is laughing and not taking it seriously when jaws is trying to attack them. This ruins the spy who loved me and makes it the worst bond moore film.

While I don't care much for the scene in question myself, surely it is a bit much to say it alone makes the entire movie bad.

Are there any things in the movie you find to be positives? If so, surely they offset that one scene by a bit?

The 2nd half of the movie is really well done. after bond leaves the train is when the movie starts to be awesome. the 1st half is really boring with bond chasing jaws and acting like a comedian

I put forward the opposing view - that the first half of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME is largely stronger and more enjoyable than the second. Overall, I consider it a good outing throughout though.

[jrcjohnny99]

When bond is in the Van with XXX he is laughing and not taking it seriously when jaws is trying to attack them. This ruins the spy who loved me and makes it the worst bond moore film.

While I don't care much for the scene in question myself, surely it is a bit much to say it alone makes the entire movie bad.

Are there any things in the movie you find to be positives? If so, surely they offset that one scene by a bit?

The 2nd half of the movie is really well done. after bond leaves the train is when the movie starts to be awesome. the 1st half is really boring with bond chasing jaws and acting like a comedian

I put forward the opposing view - that the first half of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME is largely stronger and more enjoyable than the second. Overall, I consider it a good outing throughout though.

I think I agree, I think the first half of the movie is outstanding (much the same as MR); I think the Egypt scenes overall may be my favourite of the entire series.
Spy does use it's humor a little too obviously at times and it desperately misses a JB score, but overall, it's a terrific Bond movie and one of the 3 or 4 that alternate as my favourite.

If there's a single scene that 'almost' ruins a Bond movie for me, it would be the cross dressing Blofeld in DAF...

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

When bond is in the Van with XXX he is laughing and not taking it seriously when jaws is trying to attack them. This ruins the spy who loved me and makes it the worst bond moore film.

While I don't care much for the scene in question myself, surely it is a bit much to say it alone makes the entire movie bad.

Are there any things in the movie you find to be positives? If so, surely they offset that one scene by a bit?

The 2nd half of the movie is really well done. after bond leaves the train is when the movie starts to be awesome. the 1st half is really boring with bond chasing jaws and acting like a comedian

I put forward the opposing view - that the first half of THE SPY WHO LOVED ME is largely stronger and more enjoyable than the second. Overall, I consider it a good outing throughout though.

I think I agree, I think the first half of the movie is outstanding (much the same as MR); I think the Egypt scenes overall may be my favourite of the entire series.
Spy does use it's humor a little too obviously at times and it desperately misses a JB score, but overall, it's a terrific Bond movie and one of the 3 or 4 that alternate as my favourite.

If there's a single scene that 'almost' ruins a Bond movie for me, it would be the cross dressing Blofeld in DAF...

Totally agree about the cross-dressing Blofeld. I abhor that scene.

[Garth007]

I wouldn't say it ruined the whole movie. I would say it ruined the next 30 minutes of the movie, but thats it. Now Halle Berry ruined the rest of Die Another Day. lol

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

I wouldn't say it ruined the whole movie. I would say it ruined the next 30 minutes of the movie, but thats it. Now Halle Berry ruined the rest of Die Another Day. lol

I'd say the CGI bullet ruined it for me!

[hilly]

Ruins the entire film? Is this not a slight over-reaction?
I can't think of a Bond film that has been ruined by a single scene. Sure there are moments in a few of them that make me cringe a bit (the Moonraker gondola chase, the AVTAK fire engine chase, TMWTGG Kung Fu schoolgirls, the CGI ice surfing in DAD to name but a few)but I can't say as they make me throw up my hands in horror and switch the film off..

[Garth007]

I wouldn't say it ruined the whole movie. I would say it ruined the next 30 minutes of the movie, but thats it. Now Halle Berry ruined the rest of Die Another Day. lol

I'd say the CGI bullet ruined it for me!

yeah that part was stupid to lol more i watch that movie tho the more i like the first half of the movie. that being said the second half of the movie was bad.

[Bryce (003)]

I can say that over the years and films, there certainly have been bits that made me roll my eyes here and there, but "ruined" the whole of the film as itself? Out of one minute?

As to TSWLM - I'll defend it to my dying day if need be. Not that I have to, but I'll reseve the right to "agree to disagree"

- Locations

- Ken Adam's set design of both Atlantis and the Liparus

- Anya's dress at the Mojave Club

- Jaws

- Fight with Sandor

- Lotus

- PTS

- Bond being cool in a tense moment

Bond: "He has Anya on there."

Carter: "I know it James. I'm sorry."

Bond: "I need to get her off."

Carter: "How?"

Bond: "The equipment Q sent for me."

If it's ruined for you for your own reasons, then just don't watch it again.

[jaguar007]

- Anya's dress at the Mojave Club

I think you mean Anya's cleavage at the Mojave Club

[Bryce (003)]

- Anya's dress at the Mojave Club

I think you mean Anya's cleavage at the Mojave Club

Don't forget those legs.

[David_M]

My only problem with this scene is that there are too many jokes: "Women drivers..." "Let's try reverse, that's backwards", "Can you play any other tunes?" Better if they'd just picked one and stuck with it; even for Roger this is too much yakkety-yak in too short a time.

Other than that, though, I like the scene. I seem to be in the minority for actually liking Roger's "too cool to worry" approach to Bond. I'm sure he figures that if and when Jaws gets around to pulling him out of the van, he'll figure some way out of trouble. In the meantime, no use flying into a panic.

[jrcjohnny99]

I can say that over the years and films, there certainly have been bits that made me roll my eyes here and there, but "ruined" the whole of the film as itself? Out of one minute?

As to TSWLM - I'll defend it to my dying day if need be. Not that I have to, but I'll reseve the right to "agree to disagree"

- Locations

- Ken Adam's set design of both Atlantis and the Liparus

- Anya's dress at the Mojave Club

- Jaws

- Fight with Sandor

- Lotus

- PTS

- Bond being cool in a tense moment

Bond: "He has Anya on there."

Carter: "I know it James. I'm sorry."

Bond: "I need to get her off."

Carter: "How?"

Bond: "The equipment Q sent for me."

If it's ruined for you for your own reasons, then just don't watch it again.

I'd agree with Bryce on all the above and add in

Claude Renoir's wonderful cinematography

[zencat]

Other than that, though, I like the scene. I seem to be in the minority for actually liking Roger's "too cool to worry" approach to Bond. I'm sure he figures that if and when Jaws gets around to pulling him out of the van, he'll figure some way out of trouble. In the meantime, no use flying into a panic.

Exactly. That is JAMES BOND.

[Agent Sidewinder]

Other than that, though, I like the scene. I seem to be in the minority for actually liking Roger's "too cool to worry" approach to Bond. I'm sure he figures that if and when Jaws gets around to pulling him out of the van, he'll figure some way out of trouble. In the meantime, no use flying into a panic.

Exactly. That is JAMES BOND.

The Flemingists will probably disagree, though.

I think your enjoyment of this scene depends to a large degree on whether you like Moore-Bond or not. If you like him, you'll think it a great "cool" moment and a perfect example of his style of Bond (as I do). If you don't, well, you won't.

[zencat]

Other than that, though, I like the scene. I seem to be in the minority for actually liking Roger's "too cool to worry" approach to Bond. I'm sure he figures that if and when Jaws gets around to pulling him out of the van, he'll figure some way out of trouble. In the meantime, no use flying into a panic.

Exactly. That is JAMES BOND.

The Flemingists will probably disagree, though.

Movie James Bond. Fun James Bond.

Damn Flemingists.

[Napoleon Solo]

To each their own on this. For me, I always thought the scene in question was to show Bond cool under pressure.

Exaggerated? Sure. Then again, any scene with Jaws was going to be exaggerated. On the Inside The Spy Who Loved Me documentary, Richard Kiel even recalls himself saying "that's absurd," when the character was described to him. And that's from an actor who played plenty of over-the-top characters before Spy.

[Matt_13]

I've always liked the scene. Probably one of the funniest moments in the entire series. "Let's try reverse, that's backwards."

[Turn]

By far one of my least favorite scenes in the series. Didn't ruin it for me, just annoyed me.

As someone else mentioned, too many lines and not funny ones at that. It makes Bond appear more smug than amusing or cool, IMO. It could have been a lot more effective with a classic Rog raised eyebrow.

By contrast, I love some of the scenes around it. I actually enjoy the Lawrence of Arabia moment as it gives an epic film an even more epic feel. It works much better than the Magnificent Seven theme in MR.