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[dinovelvet]

I was talking with Mr. Blofeld earlier and he suggested Jacky Ido as Che-Che.

We also still need to decide who's playing Tracy, but the rest of the cast looks complete.

In terms of changing locations, I found it interesting that Fleming was originally going to have Bond save Tracy from humiliation at the chemin de fer tables at a casino in South Africa. But given we just used South Africa in "DR. NO", it might be redundant to use it again, here.

We could have Bond following her to another city close to Venice - Trieste, maybe. Or just over the border into Slovenia, just to add another country!

Is terminus still playing? I can't imagine he wouldn't have a juicy idea or two for a modern OHMSS!

[coco1997]

Hopefully he'll be back soon.

[coco1997]

Well, maybe he doesn't have any ideas, which in that case, I suppose it's just you, Mr. B and myself.

[terminus]

I don't think I'm going to be able to participate for the forseeable future - I'll be around every now and again and I will still be contactable, but I'm going to be busier in RL than I have been and I need to cut down on the amount of time I'm spending online. Apologies for this.

[coco1997]

So how do we proceed?

[dinovelvet]

With caution!

Now that two participants have left, we're down to just you, me, and Mr.Blofeld. As the contributions seem to have dried up, it looks like that isn't really enough to keep going (?)

[coco1997]

I wouldn't say that. I mean, LALD was done essentially by tdalton with some contributions from me. I'm sure the three of us would be able to produce something good.

[tdalton]

Since it doesn't appear as though Tracy has been cast yet, here's a few suggestions:


Natalie Portman (it appeared as though the group wanted a big-name actress, and coming off a second Oscar nomination, Portman would fit the bill)
Claire Forlani
Jennifer Connelly (perhaps slightly too old for the part, but she's still a bit younger than Daniel Craig)
Rebecca Hall


I wasn't sure if you had decided on an actresses for Tracy or not. If the group has, then just disregard the list.

Edited by tdalton, 16 February 2011 - 04:15 PM.

[Mr. Blofeld]

I suggested Thekla Rueten... if only because she wasn't British.

[coco1997]

Since it doesn't appear as though Tracy has been cast yet, here's a few suggestions:


Natalie Portman (it appeared as though the group wanted a big-name actress, and coming off a second Oscar nomination, Portman would fit the bill)
Claire Forlani
Jennifer Connelly (perhaps slightly too old for the part, but she's still a bit younger than Daniel Craig)
Rebecca Hall

I could definitely see Rebecca Hall. There is something vaguely Diana Rigg-esque about her demeanor and appearance. Although I suggested we go with an Italian actress, I could very much get behind this idea.

[dinovelvet]

So we have three different people wanting three different actresses to play Tracy. Hmm! In the meantime, here's a post-PTS scene I wrote :

I relocated the action to Malta, as the original film didn't make much use of Portugal as a location, and it gives us somewhere exotic the series hasn't been to before, as well as a sunny locale to contrast the cold, icy backdrop of the second half of the film. I also switched the card game to what's been established as the preferred choice of the Craig era

END OF TITLE SEQUENCE

-MALTA-

Bond is driving his Aston Martin through the streets of Valletta. He's on speaker/videophone with Moneypenny.

MP - Reconfirmed, a red Ferrari with the license number BMT 216A passed through customs at Valletta this morning. No further information available at this time.
Bond - It's not a big island, I'll find it.
MP - M wants to know, is this really anything to do with Operation Bedlam? We used two satellites and called in all kinds of favors to get this for you.
Bond - It's a lead I'm pursuing.
MP - Couldn't help notice that the driver happens to be an attractive woman, James.
Bond - Ah...you're breaking up, Moneypenny. I'll have to call you back.

Moneypenny is seen rolling her eyes as Bond switches off the videophone.

Later.

Bond cruises into the parking lot of the Dragonara Palace Casino. He pulls up right next to the familiar looking red Ferrari and enters.

Strolling into the casino, Bond looks around, doesn't spot his quarry. He takes a seat at a poker table.

Later still, and a crowd has gathered around Bond, who has now amassed a sizeable pile of chips. A player gets up from the table as Bond wins another hand. Immediately, the woman from the PTS sits down opposite him. Bond smiles at her but she remains impassive.

The hand progresses; everyone backs out but Bond and the woman. As the final card is flipped over, the woman goes all in and pushes her stack of chips onto the table. Bond quickly matches and goes all in too. They show their cards and Bond has a full house versus her two pair. The woman scowls and gets up, Bond quickly following her. He grabs her arm as she's about to leave the casino.

Bond - It was a good hand, you were just unlucky. And I'm still waiting for a thank you.
Tracy - You may be waiting for quite some time. Are you following me?
Bond - Yes, Contessa Teresa, I most certainly am.
Tracy - Please don't.
Bond - So have a drink with me, and I'll stop.

She reluctantly agrees; Bond orders two 'Vespers'. Tracy likes it, much to Bond's surprise. After some flirtatious dialogue, she gets up and leaves, throwing Bond a room keycard. "That thank you you're waiting for? Room 602 tonight. I hope you'll be worth it."

She walks out, leaving Bond with a bemused expression on his face.

[coco1997]

Very good work, dino.

Also, I had the idea that the waterski race between Bond and Tracy could be transplanted to the 'falling in love' montage, if we decide go that route and use it.

[coco1997]

So are we abandoning this just because terminus is MIA?

[tdalton]

So are we abandoning this just because terminus is MIA?

Just speaking for myself, but I just don't really have any ideas for OHMSS. With the exception of the acting and the editing, two things that are going to be different anyway given we've got Daniel Craig in the role and would have a new creative team if this were an actual film, there's not a whole lot that really needed to be changed about the original film, IMO. The only thing that really keeps me from ranking OHMSS very highly is the acting and the horrendous editing, especially of the fight sequences.

[coco1997]

So are we abandoning this just because terminus is MIA?

Just speaking for myself, but I just don't really have any ideas for OHMSS. With the exception of the acting and the editing, two things that are going to be different anyway given we've got Daniel Craig in the role and would have a new creative team if this were an actual film, there's not a whole lot that really needed to be changed about the original film, IMO. The only thing that really keeps me from ranking OHMSS very highly is the acting and the horrendous editing, especially of the fight sequences.

I wish someone would step up and produce at least a bullet-point outline for "OHMSS" as terminus did with most of the previous remakes. That would at least help us along the way. It's a shame things seem so lifeless right now, because I have a whole ton of ideas for "YOLT"-"MR".

[tdalton]

[edit]

[dinovelvet]

Alright then, I'm going to bullet-point some more scenes. I'm using Draco's intro as a little bit closer to the novel version of events, while also using an idea from an Ultimate Bond plot! :

-Bond goes to Tracy's room and is attacked by one of the beach henchmen. A signature Craig Brutal Fight scene breaks out, smashing up the room and ending with Bond breaking a champagne bottle on his head. Bond quips "Can't handle your drink?"

-Bond returns to his room, this time aware someone is waiting for him. He grabs someone, throwing them onto the bed, gun drawn. It's Tracy. Bond is quickly on the bed with her...

-The next morning, Bond wakes up alone. On the balcony, he sees the Ferrari gone. He checks out and heads for his Aston, when another car pulls up alongside him, full of goons. They take Bond's gun and usher him into their car.

-On a main road heading across the island, the car pulls up behind a large 18 wheeler type truck. Its ramp opens and drops onto the road, the car driving straight into it, the ramp closing behind them.

-Getting out, Bond finds the truck interior has been designed as a luxurious office. Marc-Ange Draco sits at a desk, welcoming Bond. He introduces himself as Tracy's father, telling Bond she has been suicidal ever since the death of her husband, and he had sent his men after her to protect, not hurt her. He thinks Bond will be a good influence on Tracy and wants him to continue the relationship, Bond is the kind of man who can 'set her straight' again. Bond knows Draco is a gangster with connections, and he agrees on the condition that Draco uses his influence to locate Blofeld. Draco reluctantly agrees, telling Bond to meet him in a week; it'll be his birthday and Tracy always attends.

LONDON

Bond arrives at MI6 and M presents him with a new assignment. Bond protests, saying he has a fresh lead on Blofeld, but M rejects it, saying Operation Bedlam is dead. Frustrated, Bond types out a letter of resignation and hands it to Moneypenny.

As he clears out his desk in his office, he throws away an old invitation for a 'Greene Planet' function and a couple of poker chips with a 'CR' logo on them. His desktop PC beeps and he checks his email, from M titled : "Request Granted". He shuts it down and walks out of his office.

In the corridor, he passes Moneypenny. He says goodbye and wishes her luck. Puzzled, she asks what he means. "Did you actually read her message?" she asks. Bond checks his cellphone and reads the content of the email, revealing M has granted Bond's request for two weeks leave. Moneypenny tells him she changed Bond's request for him.

SICILY (also to be filmed using Malta locations )

Bond arrives at Marc-Ange Draco's home. TBC.

[coco1997]

Great work, dino! Are you going to handle bullet-pointing the rest of the story? (And nice inclusion of the 18-wheeler )

EDIT: Also, what does everyone think of using terminus' one contribution to the project and casting Milla Jovovich as Tracy, and Charlize Theron as Irma Bunt?

[dinovelvet]

Great work, dino! Are you going to handle bullet-pointing the rest of the story? (And nice inclusion of the 18-wheeler )

EDIT: Also, what does everyone think of using terminus' one contribution to the project and casting Milla Jovovich as Tracy, and Charlize Theron as Irma Bunt?

I thought you might enjoy the 18 wheeler scene. IIRC in the novel, Draco is hiding out in some kind of trailer or storage container so I thought it would be fun to take that and make him mobile.

Yeah I can outline the rest of it, it's just getting through the first half is a bit of a slog as there's not much action. I do want to to the safe-cracking scene, are there any suggestions on how to amp this up for the modern era? Should it be more of a Mission Impossible style break-in?

Wait I thought Mr.Blofeld had suggested Milla as Bunt and then terminus said Charlize with makeup for the same role.

I think I'd prefer Milla as Bunt because she has more of an evil/European look about her, I had in mind that when Bond gets to Piz Gloria, Bunt insists on frisking Bond herself and it becomes weirdly sexual.

I'm also toying with the idea of having Bond sleep with Bunt but I'm not sure how to pull that off.

[coco1997]

I think I'd prefer Milla as Bunt because she has more of an evil/European look about her, I had in mind that when Bond gets to Piz Gloria, Bunt insists on frisking Bond herself and it becomes weirdly sexual.

I'm also toying with the idea of having Bond sleep with Bunt but I'm not sure how to pull that off.

What if we combine Ruby and Irma Bunt's characters into one? Bond could sleep with Irma, thinking she's one of the Angels, only to be betrayed by her at some point.

And yes, Mr. B suggested Milla as Bunt, but terminus suggested Milla as Tracy and Theron as Bunt. I like both ideas, but since it's ultimately your project, the final choice is up to you.

I would like to see you incorporate your idea of putting Irma in the skiing action during the climax.

[dinovelvet]

I think I'd prefer Milla as Bunt because she has more of an evil/European look about her, I had in mind that when Bond gets to Piz Gloria, Bunt insists on frisking Bond herself and it becomes weirdly sexual.

I'm also toying with the idea of having Bond sleep with Bunt but I'm not sure how to pull that off.

What if we combine Ruby and Irma Bunt's characters into one? Bond could sleep with Irma, thinking she's one of the Angels, only to be betrayed by her at some point.

Aha! Now that's interesting. Blofeld could have put Bunt undercover amongst the girls to report back to him about their progress with the brainwashing etc. Yes we can definitely work with this.

And yes, Mr. B suggested Milla as Bunt, but terminus suggested Milla as Tracy and Theron as Bunt.

I kind of like Milla as Bunt and Charlize as Tracy - she'd definitely fit in with the 'high profile' actress type I had suggested for the role. Opinions on this anyone?

I would like to see you incorporate your idea of putting Irma in the skiing action during the climax

I'm looking at changing one of the ski sequences - as the first film has two ski chases (when Bond escapes from Piz Gloria and when he and Tracy leave the farmhouse). Maybe Bond can get away from Piz in a snowmobile or ATV, and Blofeld and his goons give chase in some even more badass vehicles.

[coco1997]

I kind of like Milla as Bunt and Charlize as Tracy - she'd definitely fit in with the 'high profile' actress type I had suggested for the role. Opinions on this anyone?

Yes, I could definitely go for this.

I'm looking at changing one of the ski sequences - as the first film has two ski chases (when Bond escapes from Piz Gloria and when he and Tracy leave the farmhouse). Maybe Bond can get away from Piz in a snowmobile or ATV, and Blofeld and his goons give chase in some even more badass vehicles.

Good idea. Maybe this is where we could nick some ideas from the third dream level in "Inception"--making use of snow camouflaged snowmobiles and Humvees.

[dinovelvet]

I'm looking at changing one of the ski sequences - as the first film has two ski chases (when Bond escapes from Piz Gloria and when he and Tracy leave the farmhouse). Maybe Bond can get away from Piz in a snowmobile or ATV, and Blofeld and his goons give chase in some even more badass vehicles.

Good idea. Maybe this is where we could nick some ideas from the third dream level in "Inception"--making use of snow camouflaged snowmobiles and Humvees.

And perhaps something like this!

[coco1997]

HELL yeah! That's a great vehicle.

Regarding updating the safe-cracking scene, yeah, it would be interesting to make it more M:I-esque, in the same sense that we adapted some Ocean's 11 ideas into the "FRWL" remake.

I have some ideas on how to update the final scene of the film, so before you write that bit out, let me know so I can share them.

[Mr. Blofeld]

The only thing that really keeps me from ranking OHMSS very highly is the acting and the horrendous editing, especially of the fight sequences.

I don't agree; I think the editing is rather innovative and unique, myself -- no shakey-cam, fortunately (something QOS does not suffer from, in my opinion), and I like how, especially in the fights, the action relies on physical and emotional continuity, rather than the exact locations.

It's a blast, to me.

(Really, tdalt? The acting? That's something I could fault YOLT and DAF for, but not OHMSS...)

[coco1997]

This might be controversial, but what does everyone think about changing the final scene of the film? It would be foolish to try to outdo the original. I had an idea in mind that could make it work, but I haven't completely thought it through: When Bond and Tracy are strafed with gunfire, they are also run off the road, with Tracy being killed and Bond losing consciousness. Bond awakens to the sound of approaching police sirens and finds his bride dead in the seat next to him.

However, I'm not sure if that's how it should end, or if we should have some sort of tag scene following it.

I do have a great idea in mind for the PTS of "YOLT", though.

[tdalton]

This might be controversial, but what does everyone think about changing the final scene of the film? It would be foolish to try to outdo the original. I had an idea in mind that could make it work, but I haven't completely thought it through: When Bond and Tracy are strafed with gunfire, they are also run off the road, with Tracy being killed and Bond losing consciousness. Bond awakens to the sound of approaching police sirens and finds his bride dead in the seat next to him.

However, I'm not sure if that's how it should end, or if we should have some sort of tag scene following it.

I do have a great idea in mind for the PTS of "YOLT", though.

I think that would be a great way to end the film. Maybe leave it with the knowledge that Bond is alive, although with injuries that we don't know the true extent of, and that Tracy obviously didn't survive the ordeal.

[coco1997]

Glad you approve.

This is how I envision the "YOLT" PTS: It begins with Tracy Bond's funeral, from which Bond is surprisingly absent. Marc-Ange Draco is understandably hurt by his son-in-law's unexplained disappearance. After the funeral, we cut to Australia, where Bond hunts down and kills Irma Bunt.

Sometime after the credits, Bond pays one final visit to Draco before he's sent to Japan to investigate Shatterhand/Blofeld.

[tdalton]

This is how I envision the "YOLT" PTS: It begins with Tracy Bond's funeral, from which Bond is surprisingly absent. Marc-Ange Draco is understandably hurt by his son-in-law's unexplained disappearance. After the funeral, we cut to Australia, where Bond hunts down and kills Irma Bunt.

Now that would be an awesome PTS.

[coco1997]

Now that would be an awesome PTS.

Thanks!

I have to give credit to terminus, as he proposed the idea of Bond taking out Bunt in the PTS a while ago. But I felt placing Tracy's funeral at the opening would be a perfect bridge between the two films.