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#241 Mr.Zukovsky

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 07:28 PM

Lol just checking.

#242 gkgyver

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 08:07 PM



Consider it finished, it's as close as I can get.

#243 Leo R.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 09:08 PM

Consider it finished, it's as close as I can get.


Sounds fine to me :-)

#244 mattjoes

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 06:28 PM



Consider it finished, it's as close as I can get.

At 0:18 the melody goes G-A-G-Gb-E, not A-B-A-G-E. And the tambourine isn't stopping and starting again at 0:30. Otherwise, the orchestra is now playing in tune. ;)

Edited by mattjoes, 10 May 2011 - 06:28 PM.


#245 gkgyver

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 11:18 PM

FYI, I'm doing TMWTGG.
First Bond's arrival in Macau, then the water pistol scene.

And did I ever upload the revisited version of Octopussy's Art Depository cue, with added wind and more vibrato in the flute?

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 11:40 PM

FYI, I'm doing TMWTGG.
First Bond's arrival in Macau, then the water pistol scene.


Don't forget the short cue for Bond holding Lazar at gunpoint.

#247 gkgyver

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 02:19 AM

Of course I wouldn't end the cue in the middle of a scene.
I may not be that familiar with TMWTGG's unreleased music, but I'm clever enough to watch a few more minutes before and after a cue to see if there is more music I can collect in a suite ;)

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 05:34 PM

FYI, I'm doing TMWTGG.
First Bond's arrival in Macau, then the water pistol scene.


Cool, can't wait!
If it helps, here is a complete list of unreleased cues from TMWTGG, 22 minutes of music. I hope the titles can speak for themselves.

1. Gunbarrel / On the beach
2. Saïda dances
3. Bond in Macau / The casino
4. Bond meets Andrea
5. Bottoms up (source+score)
6. Kung fu school
7. Bangkok boat chase / Sherrif Pepper / James Bond theme
8. Death of Hai Fat / Phu Yuck
9. Bond meets Andrea again
10. Walkie talkie
11. Flying car
12. Scaramanga's welcome / Solar power
13. Taking the solex
14. Slow boat from China

If I'm not mistaken they've tracked 'Bond meets Andrea' later on in the film.



And did I ever upload the revisited version of Octopussy's Art Depository cue, with added wind and more vibrato in the flute?


You uploaded a second version. Is there a third one?

#249 The Shark

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 12:29 AM

I think it's fair to suggest that Bond's arrival in Macau (with the Thai zither playing the Bond theme) and the following scene inside the workshop with Lazar are two separate cues. However, you can still recording them as a medley (i.e. the long) but list them as separate cues - i.e. Arrival in Macau/Forever hold your Piece.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 12:41 AM

Forever hold your Piece


:D

Now that's a typo!

The first half of the Bond To Macau/Meeting Lazar is done, but does someone know what arpeggio the harp (ended with a spark by what I think is glockenspiel) is playing 0:35 seconds into the cue, scoring Lazar peeking through the door?

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:14 AM

Forever hold your Piece


:D

Now that's a typo!


That's no typo!

"I am now aiming precisely at your groin. So speak or forever hold your piece."

Tom Mankiewicz = master of the one liner.

The first half of the Bond To Macau/Meeting Lazar is done, but does someone know what arpeggio the harp (ended with a spark by what I think is glockenspiel) is playing 0:35 seconds into the cue, scoring Lazar peeking through the door?


I believe the harp's playing an ascending gliss. on the E melodic minor scale. (E-F#-G-A-B-C#-D#). Those are finger cymbals at the end. Used throughout this score, and in FRWL for the gypsy camp, GF for Odd Jobb, and for an oriental feel in YOLT.

#252 mattjoes

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:29 PM

Hmm, not a cimbalom. It sure sounds like one, though; a very slight difference.

Edited by mattjoes, 18 May 2011 - 07:30 PM.


#253 gkgyver

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 09:10 PM


Forever hold your Piece


:D

Now that's a typo!


That's no typo!

"I am now aiming precisely at your groin. So speak or forever hold your piece."

Tom Mankiewicz = master of the one liner.


Shouldn't that be "Forever hold your peace"?

#254 The Shark

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 10:06 PM



Forever hold your Piece


:D

Now that's a typo!


That's no typo!

"I am now aiming precisely at your groin. So speak or forever hold your piece."

Tom Mankiewicz = master of the one liner.


Shouldn't that be "Forever hold your peace"?


No, that's the pun. The traditional saying from the marriage liturgy of the Christians' Book of Common Prayers is "Speak now, or forever hold your peace." Because Bond is pointing the rifle at Lazar's crotch (his piece) it gains a double meaning.

In other words, "Give me me the answer now, or I shoot your knob off."

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 10:41 PM



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Posted 19 May 2011 - 02:45 PM

A Piece also being slang for gun/weapon is another riff on Lazar's profession.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:44 PM



Excellent! You captured the mood of the score very well.
First I thought it went a little too fast but after comparing it to the original I realised your timing is right.

#258 mattjoes

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:05 PM


Very nice work!

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 06:07 AM



Terrific job. Though as usual, I've got a few things to suggest:

- If possible, find a lower, more subtle tam tam crash sample.

- Slightly de-tune the zither. Should be louder and less pretty.

- There should be an slurred acciaccatura at 00:18, so it's "ba-LAa DAAAAAA - daaah dum DAAAAAAH'

http://img222.images...cciaccatura.png

- At this same bar - strings should split into an octave apart, making two octaves. I can hear winds here too, though I'm not sure what.

- For the parallel fourths figure - bring out the reeds in the mix - 2 clarinets and 2 bassoons.

- If you want, you can integrate 1:44 to 1:52 from Let's Got Get 'Em into the brass crescendo.

- Harp glissando is too far back in the mix, and should be ascending. Should have a higher range. If you can't find a good sample, just take one of the countless stingers from the Fun House cues.

- For the instrumental of the main theme - bring out the zither, lower the string harmonies (for celli, violas, and 2nd violins), and soften them. They're too high and bright. Also, the double basses should be an octave lower. Deep, but not too loud.

- Strings in general need more expression and articulation of attack - currently sound too wet and imprecise.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 10:39 PM

Wow, over 10,000 views ...

I actually expected this thread to be dead in a heartbeat :o

Stay tuned!

#261 gkgyver

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:36 AM

Can someone enlighten me what the high woodwinds are playing when Lazar rushes to get the golden bullets?
I was thinking like D,D,C,?,?,E ...

Here's the current version without those wind line (which will be added of course):



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Posted 26 May 2011 - 06:15 PM

Can someone enlighten me what the high woodwinds are playing when Lazar rushes to get the golden bullets?
I was thinking like D,D,C,?,?,E ...

Here's the current version without those wind line (which will be added of course):


I think it's D-E'-D'-C'-C'-B-G-A#-A. Some of those notes may be split, but that's the general idea. Nice work, by the way.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:10 PM


Can someone enlighten me what the high woodwinds are playing when Lazar rushes to get the golden bullets?
I was thinking like D,D,C,?,?,E ...

Here's the current version without those wind line (which will be added of course):


I think it's D-E'-D'-C'-C'-B-G-A#-A. Some of those notes may be split, but that's the general idea. Nice work, by the way.


Yep, played by 1 or 2 flutes. Need to listen to it again.

Could someone PM me a link to a rip that includes this track?

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 07:14 AM

Yep, played by 1 or 2 flutes. Need to listen to it again.

Could someone PM me a link to a rip that includes this track?


http://www.myvideo.d...denen_Colt_2_11
It starts at 11:04.
Just ignore the German dub.

#265 gkgyver

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 03:30 PM

Is that pitch-corrected?

I'm kind of stuck at the note value of that line. Are those 16th?

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:08 PM

Is that pitch-corrected?


Nope.

I'm kind of stuck at the note value of that line. Are those 16th?


That's right. Don't forget the right slur markings, and the harp chords.

Also, this might help - I remember one of the TMWTGG's DVD sub-menus had this version of the Bond theme, along with the 'Water Pistol' cue in another. You could could rip that and use it as a foundation.

#267 mattjoes

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:14 PM

Is that pitch-corrected?

If you are referring to the video, which is from a PAL source, then yes, it's 4% faster than normal (about a semitone higher).

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 08:28 PM

I know.
That's why I asked if it was already pitch-corrected, as in original pitch ;)

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 08:06 PM

This project ain't dead.

I'm working on it!

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 05:13 PM

Good to hear from you GK. Looking forward to what new stuff you have saved up for us.