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[Agent Leiter]

"Bad" films that I enjoy
Transformers
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Cloverfield (is this one considered bad?)

I don't understand the hate for Transformers. If you're expecting something other than dumb spectacle, then shame on you. Why even watch it? It's pretty obvious what's coming at you.

Hear, hear!

I was disappointed with the second one honestly, but it had its entertaining moments. The first one is plenty of fun! Nothing wrong with Cloverfield.

Of course, I've always been a fan of Transformers since I was a kid... so that might have something to do with it.

[bondrules]

"Bad" films that I enjoy
Transformers
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Cloverfield (is this one considered bad?)

I don't understand the hate for Transformers. If you're expecting something other than dumb spectacle, then shame on you. Why even watch it? It's pretty obvious what's coming at you.

Hear, hear!

I was disappointed with the second one honestly, but it had its entertaining moments. The first one is plenty of fun! Nothing wrong with Cloverfield.

Of course, I've always been a fan of Transformers since I was a kid... so that might have something to do with it.

I grew up the 80's and was a huge fan of Transformers. However the movies were REALLY bad. I consider both installments as an insult to my childhood memories.

[Agent Leiter]

"Bad" films that I enjoy
Transformers
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Cloverfield (is this one considered bad?)

I don't understand the hate for Transformers. If you're expecting something other than dumb spectacle, then shame on you. Why even watch it? It's pretty obvious what's coming at you.

Hear, hear!

I was disappointed with the second one honestly, but it had its entertaining moments. The first one is plenty of fun! Nothing wrong with Cloverfield.

Of course, I've always been a fan of Transformers since I was a kid... so that might have something to do with it.

I grew up the 80's and was a huge fan of Transformers. However the movies were REALLY bad. I consider both installments as an insult to my childhood memories.

In some ways I'd agree the second one was... but the first? Granted it spent too much time with the human characters (honestly, did anyone watch the movie for them?), but I thought it was about as good as we could have hoped for at the time.

[Tarl_Cabot]

There are sooooo many to choose from...here's a few

STAR WARS 2 & 3
TRANSFORMERS 1 &2
THE MATRIX 2 &3
TERMINATOR 3 &4
CRASH
THE ISLAND
GOLDMEMBER
OCEAN'S 11,12,13, 14, etc.
HANNIBAL RISING
DIE ANOTHER DAY
ALEXANDER
TROY
PEARL HARBOR
FANTASTIC FOUR 1&2
HULK 1&2
RUMOR HAS IT
SUPERMAN RETURNS
KING KONG
YEAR ONE
THE TERMINAL
WAR OF THE WORLDS
MINORITY REPORT
THE PROPOSAL
CATCH ME IF YOU CAN
ELEKTRA
SUM OF ALL FEARS
CHANGING LANES
THE HAPPENING
THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
HALLOWEEN
LADY IN THE WATER
THE VILLAGE
THE CURIOUS CASE OF BENJAMIN BUTTON
DEATH PROOF
THE SPIRIT

Yep, I forgot about those...KK was especially lame.

[JimmyBond]

King Kong was technically well made, and there's really nothing wrong with it. The problem with the film is that it sticks so closely to the original there really is no room for surprises. Watching it in theaters I couldnt help but feeling I'd seen it all before, and I had, in a shorter version with the 1930's original.

[Agent Leiter]

King Kong was technically well made, and there's really nothing wrong with it. The problem with the film is that it sticks so closely to the original there really is no room for surprises. Watching it in theaters I couldnt help but feeling I'd seen it all before, and I had, in a shorter version with the 1930's original.

Yeah, I wouldn't say King Kong was bad... although it didn't offer much either.

[Tarl_Cabot]

King Kong was technically well made, and there's really nothing wrong with it. The problem with the film is that it sticks so closely to the original there really is no room for surprises. Watching it in theaters I couldnt help but feeling I'd seen it all before, and I had, in a shorter version with the 1930's original.

It had some great action scenes but the cabin boy BS and Kong ice skating were really lame. Still, I didn't hate it but it would have been nicer to see Jackson follow up LOTR with an original feature such as The Hobbit.

[Matt_13]

Terrible, terrible films :

The Black Dahlia
Death Proof
Hot Fuzz
Joe Dirt (no, don't look it up)
The Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy
The Da Vinci Code

Over-rated :

The Dark Knight
Gladiator
The Bourne Everything
The Departed
Oldboy
Kill Bill (1...didn't bother to find out if 2 was any better)

Turkeys that I liked :

Freddy got fingered
Alexander
3000 miles to Graceland
League of extraordinary gentlemen
Hitman
Oh fine then, Die another day

Did not see any :

Lord of the Rings (no wait, I did see the first one. That's the one where they walk around a lot, innit?)
Harry Potter
Ocean's xx
Pirates of a something something
Generic fast and/or furious fare
The TransCrankporters
Films with Will Smith in them
anything animated that adults are supposed to enjoy

Oh yeah, I forgot a few: Hitman, Oceans 12, League of douchebags...etc. Good list.

That got me.

[tdalton]

Adding a few films that I managed to forget to put on my list.

The Hall of Shame
TRANSFORMERS

TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN

THE PINK PANTHER

THE PINK PANTHER 2

W.

FAST & FURIOUS

VALKYRIE

PAUL BLART: MALL COP (the worst film of the decade)

SIN CITY

OCEAN'S 12

OCEAN'S 13

SPIDER-MAN 2

HANNIBAL RISING



The Preposterously Overrated
CRASH

THE DARK KNIGHT

MILLION DOLLAR BABY

THE BOURNE SUPREMACY

THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM

AMERICAN BEAUTY

THE MATADOR

GRAN TORINO

MEMENTO

NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN



Films Often Held to be Bad that I actually Like
ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN

DOOMSDAY

TERMINATOR SALVATION

SAW I-V

THE GIRL NEXT DOOR (film has an inexplicably low RT score of 55% as I'd say it's one of the best mainstream comedies of the decade)

[bondrules]

I forgot to mention District 9 in my worst of the decade list. For me it was unwatchable. The story, the monsters, and that horrible southafrican accent. It was too much.

[Safari Suit]

I don't understand the hate for Transformers. If you're expecting something other than dumb spectacle, then shame on you. Why even watch it? It's pretty obvious what's coming at you.

Maybe people still want dumb spectacle to be, you know, good dumb spectacle. It's possible for a film to aim for the lowest common denomenator and still fail, and it's possible to hope for a film to be dumb fun and still end up thinking the film is lousy.

In their corner though I will say the second film getting a panning from those who loved/liked the first frankly baffles me, they both seemed like the same kind of crap to me and I found the second slightly more entertaining, more energetic, and more pleasingly insane.

[Zorin Industries]

In no particular order....

ELEPHANT

WATCHMEN

GREEN STREET

W.

THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST

SNATCH

TROY

SILENT HILL

RESIDENT EVIL (though the sequels are vastly better oddly)

[B. Brown]

Anything involving George Lucas.

[bond 16.05.72]

Anything involving George Lucas.

Agreed! although Spielberg should be ashamed with himself associating with that dreck that was Kingdom of The Crystal Skull, easily one of the decades worst, it's up there with Clones & Sith in my book.

Edited by bond 16.05.72, 23 December 2009 - 04:00 PM.

[bondrules]

Anything involving George Lucas.

Agreed! although Spielberg should be ashamed with himself associating with that dreck that was Kingdom of The Crystal Skull, easily on of the decades worst, it's up there with Clones & Sith in my book.

Good call. I forgot about Indy 4. Add that one for me. Ford was his old self again, but the story and the script were truly atrocious. I would like to forget it was ever made. (Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite movie of all time.)

[darthbond]

The hall of shame
Where the Wild Things Are
The Matrix 2-3
Hannah Montana Movie
Ice Age 2-3
Fantastic 4 1-2
Twilight
Catwoman
The Scorpion King 2
Scooby Doo
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Any "... Movie" i.e. Epic, Date, Scary, etc.

The preposterously overrated
The Dark Knight
New Moon
Iron Man
LOTR Trilogy
Ponyo
300
Finding Nemo
I Am Legend
Night at the Museum
Most Harry Potter movies
Happy Feet
Taken

Films often held to be bad that I actually like
Ghost Rider
The Prestige
Pirates 2-3
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Indiana Jones 4
Star Wars 1-3
Mr. and Mrs. Smith

darthbond

[bond 16.05.72]

Anything involving George Lucas.

Agreed! although Spielberg should be ashamed with himself associating with that dreck that was Kingdom of The Crystal Skull, easily on of the decades worst, it's up there with Clones & Sith in my book.

Good call. I forgot about Indy 4. Add that one for me. Ford was his old self again, but the story and the script were truly atrocious. I would like to forget it was ever made. (Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite movie of all time.)

Yeah Raiders is up near the top for me, only 2nd to Jaws for me where the Beard is concerned. Action Adventure perfection, not even Bond touches it's genius, I like the 2 sequels but Indy 4 was an abomination.

The hall of shame
Where the Wild Things Are
The Matrix 2-3
Hannah Montana Movie
Ice Age 2-3
Fantastic 4 1-2
Twilight
Catwoman
The Scorpion King 2
Scooby Doo
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Any "... Movie" i.e. Epic, Date, Scary, etc.

The preposterously overrated
The Dark Knight
New Moon
Iron Man
LOTR Trilogy
Ponyo
300
Finding Nemo
I Am Legend
Night at the Museum
Most Harry Potter movies
Happy Feet
Taken

Films often held to be bad that I actually like
Ghost Rider
The Prestige
Pirates 2-3
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Indiana Jones 4
Star Wars 1-3
Mr. and Mrs. Smith

darthbond

I never seen The Prestige called bad, the company you put it with is such an insult as well, it sticks out like a saw thumb. I would easily say it is one of the decades finest, better than DK and nearly on par with Memento in my book. If I had to name my finest of the decade I think Zodiac would probably take the award.

[bondrules]

Anything involving George Lucas.

Agreed! although Spielberg should be ashamed with himself associating with that dreck that was Kingdom of The Crystal Skull, easily on of the decades worst, it's up there with Clones & Sith in my book.

Good call. I forgot about Indy 4. Add that one for me. Ford was his old self again, but the story and the script were truly atrocious. I would like to forget it was ever made. (Raiders of the Lost Ark is my favorite movie of all time.)

Yeah Raiders is up near the top for me, only 2nd to Jaws for me where the Beard is concerned. Action Adventure perfection, not even Bond touches it's genius, I like the 2 sequels but Indy 4 was an abomination.

The hall of shame
Where the Wild Things Are
The Matrix 2-3
Hannah Montana Movie
Ice Age 2-3
Fantastic 4 1-2
Twilight
Catwoman
The Scorpion King 2
Scooby Doo
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Any "... Movie" i.e. Epic, Date, Scary, etc.

The preposterously overrated
The Dark Knight
New Moon
Iron Man
LOTR Trilogy
Ponyo
300
Finding Nemo
I Am Legend
Night at the Museum
Most Harry Potter movies
Happy Feet
Taken

Films often held to be bad that I actually like
Ghost Rider
The Prestige
Pirates 2-3
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Indiana Jones 4
Star Wars 1-3
Mr. and Mrs. Smith

darthbond

I never seen The Prestige called bad, the company you put it with is such an insult as well, it sticks out like a saw thumb. I would easily say it is one of the decades finest, better than DK and nearly on par with Memento in my book. If I had to name my finest of the decade I think Zodiac would probably take the award.

I agree. I much prefer The Prestige to the The Dark Knight. I wouldn't say it's a top 10 for the decade, but certainly a top 20.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Is it cool to hate the Dark Knight these days? Is it the new Titanic? I think it's pretty damn good.

[dinovelvet]

Is it cool to hate the Dark Knight these days? Is it the new Titanic? I think it's pretty damn good.

Well I don't think anyone's hating it in here as much as declaring it to be over-rated. Personally I found it pretty dull, with Heath Ledger's much-touted performance being a ho-hum over-the-top Manic Villain ™. And I don't know what the hell was going on in those fight scenes at the end when Batman was fighting in, er, superbatvision or whatever the hell it was, a sequence that makes the action in QOS look perfectly sane by comparison.

[DR76]

District 9

Twilight

New Moon

Burn After Reading

Star Trek

Snakes on a Plane

Matrix 2

Matrix 3

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

I Am Legend

300

Watchmen

Ghost Rider

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

Troy

Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgandy

Moulin Rouge

Deception

Knowing

Domino

Milk

X-Files: I Want to Believe

Mr. Deeds

Transformers

Transformers 2

The Whole Ten Yards

[The Shark]

Burn After Reading

Really? I mean really?

The best Coen Brothers film since The Big Lebowski in my opinion.

Edited by The Shark, 23 December 2009 - 11:18 PM.

[JackWade]

I forgot to mention District 9 in my worst of the decade list. For me it was unwatchable. The story, the monsters, and that horrible southafrican accent. It was too much.

Come on. Worst of the decade?

I think you're going to be in a very small minority on that one.

[tdalton]

Is it cool to hate the Dark Knight these days? Is it the new Titanic? I think it's pretty damn good.

I don't think that it's so much it being "cool" to dislike The Dark Knight as it is, I think, just a natural progression in thinking for those who didn't particularly care for it at first, and then found themselves more and more confused by the merit-less over-praising that the critics, the media, and the awards shows showed the film.

The Dark Knight was never anything more, to me anyway, than a standard Hollywood blockbuster, with serviceable acting (good, but nothing spectacular or Oscar-worthy about any of it) and an air of pretentiousness about it that really made it something of a chore, in certain stretches of the film, to watch. As much as I enjoy the types of downbeat, serious films that The Dark Knight was trying to be, it's just not pulled off at all well, and a big part of the disappointment, at least for me, is that I'm apparently the only person who isn't "worthy" of understanding the "genius" of the film (or at least this is how someone I know tried to characterize my opinion of the film as the only reason someone could dislike the film). I think a big part of the negative reaction by many towards the film is simply the bewilderment that something that is really, at least to those of us who don't particularly care for the film, nothing more than a slightly more serious summer action blockbuster is being showered with awards that, quite frankly, it does not deserve.

[CJB]

To name a few...

Dark Water (US version)
Troy
Attack of the Clones
Transformers
King Kong
Watchmen
Indiana Jones - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Prisoner of Azkaban
The League of Extraordinary Genteman
Pirates of the Caribbean II (haven't seen the third one, don't intend to)
The Love Guru
Spiderman and all its godawful sequels...actually, let's just put most comic book/superhero movies in here.

[DR76]

Really? I mean really?

The best Coen Brothers film since The Big Lebowski in my opinion.

I didn't like it at all. Except for the final scene between David Rasche and J.K. Simmons

[bondrules]

I forgot to mention District 9 in my worst of the decade list. For me it was unwatchable. The story, the monsters, and that horrible southafrican accent. It was too much.

Come on. Worst of the decade?

I think you're going to be in a very small minority on that one.

Yeah, D9 has its fans. I however couldn't digest it. It was painfully unwatchable.

[Forward Look]

Aw, c'mon people, you missed Mamma Mia! Don't you like the Brozza-man singing ABBA?

[bond 16.05.72]

Is it cool to hate the Dark Knight these days? Is it the new Titanic? I think it's pretty damn good.

I don't think that it's so much it being "cool" to dislike The Dark Knight as it is, I think, just a natural progression in thinking for those who didn't particularly care for it at first, and then found themselves more and more confused by the merit-less over-praising that the critics, the media, and the awards shows showed the film.

The Dark Knight was never anything more, to me anyway, than a standard Hollywood blockbuster, with serviceable acting (good, but nothing spectacular or Oscar-worthy about any of it) and an air of pretentiousness about it that really made it something of a chore, in certain stretches of the film, to watch. As much as I enjoy the types of downbeat, serious films that The Dark Knight was trying to be, it's just not pulled off at all well, and a big part of the disappointment, at least for me, is that I'm apparently the only person who isn't "worthy" of understanding the "genius" of the film (or at least this is how someone I know tried to characterize my opinion of the film as the only reason someone could dislike the film). I think a big part of the negative reaction by many towards the film is simply the bewilderment that something that is really, at least to those of us who don't particularly care for the film, nothing more than a slightly more serious summer action blockbuster is being showered with awards that, quite frankly, it does not deserve.

In your opinion, I'm still waiting for someone to say a blockbuster that was better than DK this decade and no I don't think CR was as good as DK.

TD you mystify me that you can tout such awful rubbish as The Saw franchise then call DK a bad film, I've not seen District 9 yet (my Blu Ray is on it's alongside Hurt Locker) but I very much doubt it's one of the worst films of the decade.

I think people confuse overrated with worst at times, yes you didn't like it but worst, Valkyrie was disappointing to some but to call it an awful film is ridiculous.

I stand by Ledgers performance I saw something there that blew Nicholson's awful hammy show boating turn in Burton's Batman completely away. A completely different and far more exciting angle to Batman's most famous nemesis.

Maybe he wouldn't have got the Oscar if he was still alive but it doesn't take anything away from the fact it was an electrifying performance. I'll take it over Hopkins's Lecter any day of the week, The Joker and Hans Landa are taking my villains of the decade award, they have all the right to stand alongside Darth Vader when it comes to cinematic bad guys.

[Safari Suit]

I'm still waiting for someone to say a blockbuster that was better than DK this decade and no I don't think CR was as good as DK.

Depends on how you define blockbuster really, does $120million domestic count as a blockbuster anymore? That's how much Inglourious Basterds made and I would very much argue that was better than The Dark Knight, not just something I prefer but better. If we were to define a blockbuster as upwards of $100million domestic, I imagine there would be people out there (though not I) who would make a case for the Lord of the Rings series, the Bourne films, Road to Perdition, Walk the Line, Benjamin Button, Star Trek, District 9, Watchmen and so forth.