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[tdalton]

Armitage is hands down the best suggestion we've had on this page of the thread (edit: or on the previous page, as it were ).  The problem with him is that he'll be far too old for the role once Craig is done after Bond 25.

Edited by tdalton, 06 January 2015 - 10:01 PM.

[Odd Jobbies]

Bond is, and should be, an arrogant jerk at times...

He was fantastic as Patrick Bateman in American Psycho (perhaps his best performance). His best moments as Bruce wayne are when he's full on-Bateman, acting the twat to keep up the pretence. In this respect he'd be a very interesting Bond - cold and ruthless in the extreme. But alas i fear h's too old.

 

Personally i think Nolan directed Bond(s) are inevitable and i think he'll do a cracking job. He made the best thriller of the last ten years with The Dark Knight. Sure 'Rises' seemed weak, but only in comparison to the shear masterful greatness of it's predecessor. I get the feeling that these movies are all a kind of prep for when he gets the Bond reigns. I just hope Eon allow him and Jonathan the lions share of screenplay responsibilities; Treat Nolan like a jobbing director and we'll be hugely hindering his potential.

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 06 January 2015 - 10:57 PM.

[coco1997]

In this respect he'd be a very interesting Bond - cold and ruthless in the extreme. But alas i fear h's too old.

Theoretically Bale would be about the same age as Moore was in LALD if he's cast as Bond #7.

[Call Billy Bob]

 

In this respect he'd be a very interesting Bond - cold and ruthless in the extreme. But alas i fear h's too old.

Theoretically Bale would be about the same age as Moore was in LALD if he's cast as Bond #7.

 

And Bale generally looks younger than he is, in my opinion.

[DaveBond21]

The trend of the Craig era has been to move more and more toward "classic" Bond. I see the next Bond continuing that trajectory (beginning, probably, with a feature that has a GoldenEye-ish balance), and EON will probably cast someone in support of that. I imagine the next Bond will be one who has a real talent for comedy.

 

Of course, this is a possibility. Say the movie comes out in 2021 or 2022. Maybe the movies at the time are more like those in the late 70's/80's and are more light hearted across the board. The Bond movies will reflect this.

 

Or we might get an even darker Bond. Someone's going to be, one day.

[Odd Jobbies]

 

 

In this respect he'd be a very interesting Bond - cold and ruthless in the extreme. But alas i fear h's too old.

Theoretically Bale would be about the same age as Moore was in LALD if he's cast as Bond #7.

 

And Bale generally looks younger than he is, in my opinion.

 

Sure Bale is ageing well, but to be cast in his mid forties is pushing it with the younger cinema going demographic.

 

In Moore's day it was an easier sell as the audience was older, but Sony wants bums on seats and the vast majority today's bums are teens-to-late-20s.

 

But it may make sense in terms of the reboot narrative - having invested so much into it, it might be a shame to then bring in a Bond whose much younger than the exiting Craig. Perhaps if Nolan agreed to helm3 in a row they could convince Bale to do a 'Bond-trilogy' (like his Batman trilogy). 

 

Then, in the early 2020's it'll feel right to cast a young Bond 8.

 

I imagine Eon will favour one of these scenarios and Sony the other.

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 07 January 2015 - 12:41 PM.

[Yellow Pinky]

Armitage is hands down the best suggestion we've had on this page of the thread (edit: or on the previous page, as it were ).  The problem with him is that he'll be far too old for the role once Craig is done after Bond 25.

Yes, I was championing Armitage earlier in this thread months ago.  I do fear you are right about the age, though.  He really is an ideal candidate if not for that.  He's got the acting chops, physicality, the voice, the ability to easily play suave, and he's got great experience from Spooks (MI-5) to be convincing with the tradecraft.  Too bad.

[tdalton]

 

Armitage is hands down the best suggestion we've had on this page of the thread (edit: or on the previous page, as it were ).  The problem with him is that he'll be far too old for the role once Craig is done after Bond 25.

Yes, I was championing Armitage earlier in this thread months ago.  I do fear you are right about the age, though.  He really is an ideal candidate if not for that.  He's got the acting chops, physicality, the voice, the ability to easily play suave, and he's got great experience from Spooks (MI-5) to be convincing with the tradecraft.  Too bad.

 

 

All of that is a big reason why Rupert Friend is my choices.  He's already done some work in the espionage and action arenas (Homeland and the upcoming Hitman film), and, at least to me, just seems to be the complete package.  Plus, he's reportedly already auditioned for the role and supposedly did very well.

 

 

[Odd Jobbies]

Friend was a revelation in the 4th Homeland season - stole it from under Danes' formidable nose.

 

Everything he'd done until then didn't qualify him for serious consideration. Now i'd seriously consider him and he should no doubt be on the screen-test list when the time comes.

[Vauxhall]

Friend was a revelation in the 4th Homeland season - stole it from under Danes' formidable nose.

 

Everything he'd done until then didn't qualify him for serious consideration. Now i'd seriously consider him and he should no doubt be on the screen-test list when the time comes.

 

Absolutely. I've been pushing Friend since his early HOMELAND days, but I'm glad that his work in Season 4 has made him an even more viable candidate. 

[Odd Jobbies]

Daniel is great actor, but he is not JAMES BOND.

 

 

Well, everyone's entitled to their opinion

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 09 January 2015 - 10:40 AM.

[Odd Jobbies]

At 28 Robert Pattinson is a good age for eligibility when the time comes. Not that it matters after the ground breaking work of Craig, but he also looks the part , which i'm sure will make Sony happy.

 

The Twilight  movies certainly painted dull picture of him, but he's made some interesting movies since - Cosmopolis  may have been an experiment too far for the great (GREAT) filmmaker Cronenberg, but it could only have added to Pattinson's acting chops.

 

He was very good as the 'innocent' in the Australian movie Rover  and has some good prospects in the pipeline according to IMDB.

 

I think it's unlikely he'd want the role, since he's gone out of his way out to avoid 'stardom' and i imagine that's needed to be a conscious and consistent effort having likely had every high profile role across his agent's desk after the mega-success of Twilight.

 

But i think there's probably at least 4 years until Eon are recasting and by then he might've had his fill of the arthouse periphery and may fancy a stab at an iconic role vacated by a respected actor.

 

I'm not sold on the idea, but there's time for him to mature beyond pouty heartthrob, which he appears inclined to do. 

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 09 January 2015 - 01:50 PM.

[JCRendle]

Daniel is great actor, but he is not JAMES BOND.

 

Nor is Sean, George, Roger, Timothy or Pierce. Daniel and the rest are playing James Bond

[tdalton]

 

Daniel is great actor, but he is not JAMES BOND.

 

Nor is Sean, George, Roger, Timothy or Pierce. Daniel and the rest are playing James Bond

 

 

Indeed.  

 

All of this Craig is not Bond stuff is boring now, just as it was in 2006 with all of the CRAIGNOTBOND.com stuff was happening.  The man is brilliant as Bond, even when the films themselves have been of varying quality.  We'd be lucky to have Craig on board for however much longer he wants to keep making these films.

[univex]

That Friend fellow has my vote. 

[tdalton]

Last time I checked, Vladimir Putin hasn't starred in any James Bond films.  Daniel Craig, on the other hand, has starred in 3 Bond films and has been terrific in all three.

[Guy Haines]

I'm with tdalton and JCRendle on this. By the way, anyone recall when Daniel Craig was introduced to the public as Bond? On that motor boat with the Royal Marines? He didn't look much like Vladimir Putin to me. (Could have done with a haircut, for a start!)

 

James Bond is James Bond. None of the actors who have played him have exactly matched the character in the books because as a character he isn't all that well defined to begin with - the real person who probably came closest to him was Ian Fleming himself, imho. So Daniel Craig's portrayal of 007 is as valid as the other five actors before him in the official series, and I too think he's done an outstanding job in the role.

 

As for the Russian leader - he hasn't even had a cameo role in Bond (As if!) but whenever he's doing something the western world is uncomfortable with it doesn't take some in the media long to insert the words "acting like a villain in a Bond movie" or similar in their accounts. Also, wasn't he a head of section for the KGB in East Berlin or somewhere earlier in his career?

[tdalton]

 

James Bond is James Bond. None of the actors who have played him have exactly matched the character in the books because as a character he isn't all that well defined to begin with - the real person who probably came closest to him was Ian Fleming himself, imho. So Daniel Craig's portrayal of 007 is as valid as the other five actors before him in the official series, and I too think he's done an outstanding job in the role.

 

Exactly.

 

None of the actors have been an exact match for Bond, and most likely never will be.  Still, Craig has been excellent in just about every facet of the role, including looking the part.  

[JCRendle]

 

 

 

Daniel is great actor, but he is not JAMES BOND.

Nor is Sean, George, Roger, Timothy or Pierce. Daniel and the rest are playing James Bond

Indeed.

All of this Craig is not Bond stuff is boring now, just as it was in 2006 with all of the CRAIGNOTBOND.com stuff was happening. The man is brilliant as Bond, even when the films themselves have been of varying quality. We'd be lucky to have Craig on board for however much longer he wants to keep making these films.

JAMES BOND IS NOT PUTIN.

 

 

[tdalton]

Well put, JCRendle.  

[Call Billy Bob]

Unless anyone has the technology to dig up and reanimate Hoagy Carmichael, we will never have an actor who looks like the James Bond created by Ian Fleming...

 

In my book, all 6 gentlemen have brought a little something different to the role and all have their own distinct "look" which serves their respective interpretation of 007.

[coco1997]

1.BROSNAN
2.CONNERY
3.MOORE
4.DALTON


5.LAZENBY
6.CRAIG

 

 

I grew up watching the Brosnan films and I think he was the worst James Bond.

[JCRendle]

I think this thread is getting slightly sidetracked - Let's look to the future...

[Guy Haines]

On the basis of "your first Bond is the best Bond", my best Bond should be George Lazenby. He isn't, though he deserves none of the stick he gets, not least from mainstream film critics. He put himself - or you could say was put - in an impossible position in 1969. Almost anyone following Sean Connery at that time would have been found wanting, most likely. There are those even now who think Connery is the only actor to have nailed Bond.

 

Glad to see ml94 has relented a little bit - Lazenby can't act but at least looks like Bond. Well, Craig can act and has made Bond his own just as Connery did, and as every other actor who has played 007 has done or tried to do. We might not always accept the interpretation, but that's not the same as saying an actor - any actor - is "NOT BOND". 

[tdalton]

I think this thread is getting slightly sidetracked - Let's look to the future...

 

Agreed.  Your advice from post #1613 says it all, IMO.

[Vauxhall]

 

 

I think this thread is getting slightly sidetracked - Let's look to the future...

 
Agreed.  Your advice from post #1613 says it all, IMO.

Yeah, Rupert or Henry...

 

 

Good suggestions. I've obviously been pushing Rupert Friend, but what are the best films to showcase Henry Cavill? I think I've only seen him in MAN OF STEEL.

[tdalton]

I don't think that there are really any films with which to showcase any tremendous acting skills on the part of Cavill.  He's an OK actor and has some talent but he's not a particularly strong actor, certainly not on the level of a lot of the suggestions in this thread (even some of the more inappropriate or extremely unlikely ones).  He'd probably end up being a serviceable Bond, as we've found out since Craig's casting that there are a good number of Bond fans who are more concerned with an actor's looks than his talent, and Cavill has the tall, dark hair, and handsome thing down pretty well.  

 

He's an OK actor, and he certainly filled the Superman role better than Brandon Routh, but there are a great many better suited candidates out there for Bond.

[Harmsway]

As far as I'm concerned, Cavill just doesn't have much charisma. But we'll see how Cavill does at the spy game in The Man from UNCLE.

 

Still no choice out there better than Fassbender.

[Harmsway]

Still no choice out there better than Fassbender.

Fassbender is already 37, might be little too old when craig leaves...

Unlike Craig, I suspect Fassbender will age gracefully throughout his forties and beyond, so I don't think his age would be a huge problem.

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

1.BROSNAN
2.CONNERY
3.MOORE
4.DALTON


5.LAZENBY
6.CRAIG

 

 

I grew up watching the Brosnan films and I think he was the worst James Bond.

 

Same here. Grew up with Brosnan, though while I don't think he's the worst, for me, he's definitely not my favorite. Good actor, films (besides GE) are lacking severely.