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[Vauxhall]

I've just had to Google this James Norton chap. I'm obviously behind the times.

[Irrigator]

I mentioned him before all the Hiddleston talk started. He's definitely interesting and lookwise more in the Daniel Craig mold. Plus an unknown that would easily sign for at least four Bond films. An interesting prospect.

Maybe we're drifiting a bit off topic with all the Nolan talk. ;-)

Since I like throwing new names into the mix; how about 30 year old Brit thesp James Norton (BBC's 'War & Peace')?

Edited by Irrigator, 08 July 2016 - 01:25 AM.

[S K Y F A L L]

Out of all the names that got thrown around my favorite is Theo James. Will have to check out his work.

[Odd Jobbies]

I was about to switch off the tv the other night and found Underworld: Awakening was on. Normally this would not give me pause, but on screen was Theo James, so out of possible-Bond-material curiosity i grin'n bared it for 10 minutes (which was pretty torturous).

 

Unless he's stepped up his game in the past 4 years i personally wouldn't want him as Bond. His catalogue model looks and wooden acting certainly made the iffy CGI monsters seem that much more lifelike by comparison.

 

 

 

Btw, Skyfall, i just poo-pooed your Guy Richie suggestion in the Directors thread, but i promise that i'm not stalking you. Just happen to disagree on these 2 counts

[S K Y F A L L]

I was about to switch off the tv the other night and found Underworld: Awakening was on. Normally this would not give me pause, but on screen was Theo James, so out of possible-Bond-material curiosity i grin'n bared it for 10 minutes (which was pretty torturous).

 

Unless he's stepped up his game in the past 4 years i personally wouldn't want him as Bond. His catalogue model looks and wooden acting certainly made the iffy CGI monsters seem that much more lifelike by comparison.

 

 

 

Btw, Skyfall, i just poo-pooed your Guy Richie suggestion in the Directors thread, but i promise that i'm not stalking you. Just happen to disagree on these 2 counts

It's all good. That is disappointing to read. I haven't really seen his stuff but I think he looks alright and is young enough. 

 

I want to try out the Divergent series, see him in action.

[Odd Jobbies]

The direction on Underworld is pretty dire, so in better hands perhaps he can find his voice. Let us know how you find him in Divergent.

[Quantumofsolace007]

The more I think about it and the more I look at photos and shots of tom Hardy the more he slips to number 1 for me. I feel Hardy could very well be the great balance between (my other two favorites) the light and popcorn heavy style of Hiddleston (who in my view is of the Moore Brosnan vein) and the dark and serious version of Fassbender (who again in my view would be similar to Dalton and Craig)

I feel like Hardy would be fun but serious Dark but able to have sense of luxiory and lightness... I truely believe Hardy may be the best canidate to appeal to everyone (and regarding height issues yeah Cruise is shorter then all of his co stars and yet no one realizes it same with Bruce Willis)

[Dustin]

Height issues are the least problem with casting the role. There was a time when it would have been a huge hurdle to take. Today I think the audience expects more substance from a Bond candidate, especially when he's taking just over. Optics remain a strong issue, but now it's possible Bond also has to face situations where the actor absolutely has to convince - something more demanding than 'Shaken, not stirred' and 'Bond. James Bond'. And there I'm not sure every hopeful newcomer would be able to pull the thing. I shiver to think what CASINO ROYALE might have been with Cavill even though the younger face would have been the better fit for the supposed "Bond begins" story.

[hoagy]

It would be shocking were Hardy to appear in more than one.

[Odd Jobbies]

 

One for the Hiddlefans.

 

He has the charm and probably the chops and maybe this'll give him a chance to show if he has the grit necessary to play a modern Bond. So far i've not been convinced but perhaps this pic promises a performance/part that'll do so.

[Harmsway]

THE NIGHT MANAGER already demonstrated that he has the necessary grit.

[Odd Jobbies]

If you say so

[S K Y F A L L]

What movie is that pic from?

 

The Night Manager this The Night Manager that, pffft.

 

Romeo ain't my Bond yet, I ain't hating just not convinced. Old isn't he?

[Harmsway]

The Night Manager is for Hiddleston what Layer Cake was for Craig.

 

If you've seen it and still don't like the idea of Hiddleston as 007, fair enough, but I think it makes a pretty strong case for his suitability.

[univex]

The Night Manager is for Hiddleston what Layer Cake was for Craig.

 

If you've seen it and still don't like the idea of Hiddleston as 007, fair enough, but I think it makes a pretty strong case for his suitability.

 

And so will Skull Island. He´s still my number one choice for the role.

 

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[Dustin]

I suppose The Night Manager already goes a long way in the direction of Bond; if that doesn't sell Hiddleston to you it's unlikely anything else will. Apart from maybe the real deal. But that's probably still way into the future - if at all.

[univex]

I suppose The Night Manager already goes a long way in the direction of Bond; if that doesn't sell Hiddleston to you it's unlikely anything else will. Apart from maybe the real deal. But that's probably still way into the future - if at all.

Yes, word has died as of lately, hasn´t it? Damn.

[Dustin]

Well, lots of things are going on, entertainment is but a tiny concern in times like these. But we may remain confident this - like all things in the end - will pass and then the pressure will be on to have a band playing when the dust settles. And oftentimes that happens sooner than we think.

[jrcjohnny99]

I am okay with Hiddleston;

he was my number two pick behind Fassbender.

I love Hardy as an actor but he's just not right for Bond; takes Bond a step further down the Craig route which is another step away from Fleming.

[Odd Jobbies]

I watched High-Rise the other night, starring Hiddleston. Funny thing was that Luke Evans really stood out as a Bond contender. Where Hiddleston might conceivably be a slightly cerebral version of Moore's Bond, Evans had the swagger and grit akin to Connery and Craig.

 

Of course neither are trying to be 'Bondish' here, and perhaps Evans would instead decide to play Bond suave, instead of swaggering. But if he did play it a la High-Rise it might work a treat.

[Surrie]

I watched High-Rise the other night, starring Hiddleston. Funny thing was that Luke Evans really stood out as a Bond contender. Where Hiddleston might conceivably be a slightly cerebral version of Moore's Bond, Evans had the swagger and grit akin to Connery and Craig.

 

Of course neither are trying to be 'Bondish' here, and perhaps Evans would instead decide to play Bond suave, instead of swaggering. But if he did play it a la High-Rise it might work a treat.

 

I'm glad you've said this! I thought this a while back: http://debrief.comma...d-7/?p=1329669

[Odd Jobbies]

I recall you saying it, Surrie and at the time i saw the merit of him being on the initial 'long list' due particularly to his great work in Hobbit, but didn't think him capable of much more than the hero archetype - a step backward after Craig's detailed work elevated the character beyond archetype, giving him a believably human, troubled nuance.

 

But of course you can't judge an actor's full potential just by the roles he's had and in High-Rise Evans really displayed lots of ability and relish getting his teeth into a more complex character - at times heroic, but damaged, deranged and very human throughout. I was very impressed.

 

    Btw, the film itself is worth a watch - the first act is magnificent!

 

   They call it an un-filmmable novel and you can see why as the movie ultimately falls apart when the strong storytelling give's way to a music-montage in order to dodge the difficult task of rendering the pivotal transition into chaos. Much of the movie seemed to be using Apocalypse Now as it's cinematic inspiration, but montage was part of the editorial texture of that whole movie, giving it it's dreamlike, hallucinatory quality. Whereas High-Rise for the most part has a stark, vivid grittiness to its dystopia, which is wonderfully realised, but is at odds with music-montage, leaving the latter to feel like a stylistic vignette.

 

   But the visuals are stunning and as a Ballard fan i could certainly hear his voice intact, which Wheatley and writer/editor Amy Jump deserve much credit for.

 

Back to Evans; after High-Rise i think BB has to audition him on film in the final stages of the selection. On paper he doesn't seem as attractive a candidate as some others, but could well wipe the floor if he tackles the audition with this much swagger and relish. I'm not saying he's the best man for the job - i still prefer Stevens and Hardy - but in Evan's case i think it's impossible to compare him until he's auditioned (same goes for Turner, who also appears one-dimensional, but showed greater potential in the Agatha Christie BBC mini-series).

[Surrie]

I recall you saying it, Surrie and at the time i saw the merit of him being on the initial 'long list' due particularly to his great work in Hobbit, but didn't think him capable of much more than the hero archetype - a step backward after Craig's detailed work elevated the character beyond archetype, giving him a believably human, troubled nuance.

 

But of course you can't judge an actor's full potential just by the roles he's had and in High-Rise Evans really displayed lots of ability and relish getting his teeth into a more complex character - at times heroic, but damaged, deranged and very human throughout. I was very impressed.

 

    Btw, the film itself is worth a watch. First act is magnificent! They call it an un-filmmable novel and i can see why as the movie ultimately falls apart when the strong storytelling give's way to a music-montage in order to dodge the difficult task of rendering the pivotal transition into chaos. But the visuals are stunning. But as a Ballard fan i could certainly hear his voice intact, which Wheatley and writer/editor Amy Jump deserve credit for.

 

Back to Evans; after High-Rise i think BB has to audition him on film in the final stages of the selection. On paper he doesn't seem as attractive a candidate as other mentioned, but could well wipe the floor if he tackles the audition with this much swagger and relish.

 

I still firmly believe BB would miss out on something special if she did overlook him. I think situations with either finding a new actor or finding a new distributor are taking it's toll as this morning Good Morning Britain's showbiz section reported a 'delay in Bond productions'. Meaning we are not to expect anything until at least 2018. I know a lot of us were thinking along this time frame anyway but not sure where the media have got this information from, or if they are just speculating like us... 

[Surrie]

http://www.digitalsp...est-apparently/

 

Not sure on the reliability but I wouldn't mind waiting if Craig was returning...

[Dustin]

It is a reasonable speculation since little can be achieved in terms of progress without MGM first getting serious. And that part of the voyage would have to fit in with a much greater scheme now. If there had been a chance for fast developments we would have most likely already heard about it. Even 2020 would not be out of the question now.


EDIT: But I seriously doubt that Craig will come back; it just doesn't seem realistic to me.

[Odd Jobbies]

Well if the delay is true, then it does make Craig's other obligations irrelevant in terms of his diary at this point in time.

[sharpshooter]

Well if the delay is true, then it does make Craig's other obligations irrelevant in terms of his diary at this point in time.

Yeah. I'd say the franchise is in a state of limbo right now. Craig as the incumbent but with anything possible.

[Odd Jobbies]

 

Well if the delay is true, then it does make Craig's other obligations irrelevant in terms of his diary at this point in time.

Yeah. I'd say the franchise is in a state of limbo right now. Craig as the incumbent but with anything possible.

 

The word 'incumbent' makes me think that with so many in this thread wanting Craig to leave, is he the Jeremy Corbyn of Bond?

 

I guess not, since Corbyn has yet to suggest he'd rather slash his wrists than lead labour

[sharpshooter]

I'd like another from Craig, but the trend seems to be against him with recasting looking likely. Add in two trusted sources and it becomes almost a certainty. But things change. We'll just have to wait this out. And that could be a long time.

[Surrie]

I'd like another from Craig, but the trend seems to be against him with recasting looking likely. Add in two trusted sources and it becomes almost a certainty. But things change. We'll just have to wait this out. And that could be a long time.

 

If by waiting we get a last Craig installment focused on a truer adaptation of YOLT then I'd be more than happy to wait.