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[x007AceOfSpades]

It's good, and I like it. I don't think it's great, it's just good. But it is what it is. You do make some valid points though Shark.

Edited by x007AceOfSpades, 05 October 2012 - 11:12 AM.

[Simon]

I reckon we'll get a lot of fans turning on this over time: people will start to get bored of it and think it's a bit anti-climatic. It'll work in the film well enough.

Sorry sir - typo police!

anti-climactic

Otherwise it might be but a mild weather front.

[Dekard77]

Rolling in the deep can be too much for my taste.

It always retains my interest, and it's got enough going on relative to the song's tempo to hide any flaws.

I like the orchestration, though. Feels very lush.

It's good, but there should be more elements coming in as it progresses. It doesn't really develop.

Rolling in the deep is painful to listen, hate even more when they play the remix version in clubs. Something about the song reeks of pure misery!

[The Shark]

Something about the song reeks of pure misery!

It's an uptempo, anthemic, Motown number. Compared to Skyfall it's a joy.

[Odd Jobbies]

Well.... It's ok....

Very much catering for those classic Bond revisionists who have been decrying the reboot. Sadly that's all it really is - a token gesture to those guys, rather than a fully fledged theme of it's own. Love them or hate them the last 2 themes were unique - they were iconic in that they represented that story alone as well as a bold new direction for the franchise.

This is very formulaic, written to the classic Bond template. The orchestral arrangement is superb, but the tune is good - not great. I surprisingly find Adele's performance dull and uninspiring (usually her style itself is pretty fresh) and you can imagine how the idiosyncratic rasps of Bassey could've improved this a hundredfold. Here,
Adele's usual style seems constrained by the mediocre melody itself - barely allowed to wonder from the repetitive keys of the Bond theme. These Bond theme keys lend well to the simple bombast of a rock tune, but are thin and too unsophisticated for a regular vocal-led ballad.

As already mentioned by others, the choir fails miserably, sounding cheap - more like the 'choir' setting on a midi button pressed at intervals, or the runners-up of a saturday night BBC choir competition show.

The lyrics are the worst element - obvious and hackneyed....
No clever nuances or play on words here - nothing too obscure or opaque, like the Goldfinger, or YOLT...
Nothing goes for the jugular like LALD, or YNMN, or even TB....
No great moments or hooks like DAF or OHMSS...
No wit, like Nobody Does it Better, or TND...
Not even a unique soundscape, like FYEO, TLDL, or Another Way To Die (yes, it's riff at least creates an ambience unique to QoS....)
This is just a straightforward telling of it's story. Being better far better than the bland Moonraker, All Time High,TWINEand Die Another Day is the best thing i can say about Skyfall - putting it's 'template-non-risky formulaic' approach on a par with Licence To Kill (good, but never as good as the songs it emulates).

But as i said, the orchestral arrangement (apart from the dire choir) is superb, up there with the greats (i'd guess Newman may have played a hand in that) and i can see it fitting perfectly within the context of Bond's apparent demise in a Turkish river, creating a dark, brooding begin to this story and the perfect springboard for Newman's score. Great signs for the movie, just not a great song in itself.

I'll give it time though, maybe it's a grower!

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

I like it a lot. Not the best Bond theme though - those came between 1962 and 1974 - but very good and definetely Bondian.

[Dekard77]

give it sometime, also we have too much expectations and insights to how the song should be rather than how the artist will want to deliver it. Hope it made some sense. Let it grow on you. If not the next Bond film will be a charm

Edited by Dekard77, 05 October 2012 - 11:38 AM.

[marktmurphy]

the best thing i can say about Skyfall - putting it's 'template-non-risky formulaic' approach on a par with Licence To Kill (good, but never as good as the songs it emulates).

Yeah, that's probably about right for how I feel about it too.
Like that one it's good enough on its own to not be pure pastiche (like TWINE, which is such a generic Bond song that it bores me completely) but isn't one of the most memorable.

[Navy007Fan]

Finally had the chance to listen to it and I like it! However, as with the last two films, I'll reserve final judgement until I hear it in context with the film's opening titles. With that, I think this is definetly in the right direction!

[The Shark]

the best thing i can say about Skyfall - putting it's 'template-non-risky formulaic' approach on a par with Licence To Kill (good, but never as good as the songs it emulates).

Yeah, that's probably about right for how I feel about it too.
Like that one it's good enough on its own to not be pure pastiche (like TWINE, which is such a generic Bond song that it bores me completely) but isn't one of the most memorable.

Agreed entirely with the LTK comparison. Lets not forget that ripped off the GF hook and used it as a crutch, just as this does with the YKMN spin on the Bond theme.

Plus there were backing singers on that, too.

[Hawkeye]

Bland and uninspired. Fortunatly Bond's don't live and die by their title songs thank the Lord.

Well.... It's ok....

Very much catering for those classic Bond revisionists who have been decrying the reboot. Sadly that's all it really is - a token gesture to those guys, rather than a fully fledged theme of it's own. Love them or hate them the last 2 themes were unique - they were iconic in that they represented that story alone as well as a bold new direction for the franchise.

Couldnt agree more - you nailed it

[Saltzman]

I like it and think Adele and Hepworth have done a good job with the song. Did any of you seriously think it was going to be a rock song as soon as Adele was announced?

[Dekard77]

There is love for AWTD

[The Shark]

Did any of you seriously think it was going to be a rock song as soon as Adele was announced?

I thought it was at least gonna have some life to it.

[Odd Jobbies]

...Did any of you seriously think it was going to be a rock song as soon as Adele was announced?

Not me - did anyone else?

But speaking of rock songs.... on it's own merits i think i prefer Muse's Supremacy which i'd be very surprised to here was not written for Skyfall. I'm guessing it didn't fit too well with Newman's ideas and Eon wanted to reassure the anti QoS masses with an old school ballad for the titles and pre-release promotion.

Adele's song says, in no uncertain terms, 'You hated QoS? You want some old school Bond back? Well Skyfall's gonna give t'ya...'

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 05 October 2012 - 12:18 PM.

[Dekard77]

...Did any of you seriously think it was going to be a rock song as soon as Adele was announced?

Not me - did anyone else?

But speaking of rock songs.... on it's own merits i think i prefer Muse's Supremacy which i'd be very surprised to here was not written for Skyfall. I'm guessing it didn't fit too well with Newman's ideas and Eon wanted to reassure the anti QoS masses with an old school ballad for the titles and pre-release promotion.

Adele's song says, in no uncertain terms, 'You hated QoS? You want some old school Bond back? Well Skyfall's gonna give t'ya...'

Well said. I liked QOS but since the majority didn't I guess this is the only way to deliver the song…. Also quite curious about the music video and it's release which I am hoping will happen in a few days??

[Saltzman]

Did any of you seriously think it was going to be a rock song as soon as Adele was announced?

I thought it was at least gonna have some life to it.

So do you think Sheena Easton's FYEO has no life, or MR? I think it spells Bond to me and to numerous other people, more so than YKMN ever did, which was just rock pomp slapped onto a Bond film. Also YKMN (which not many people did) flopped in the US Billboard 100 by only reaching #79. Can't see why there's so much love for that song when hardly anyone bothered to download it, nor was it on the album so that can't be used as an excuse as to why it only reached a paltry #79.

This song is doing what it's meant to do which is to promote Skyfall. The song is already at No 1 in the iTunes charts.

[The Shark]

Did any of you seriously think it was going to be a rock song as soon as Adele was announced?

I thought it was at least gonna have some life to it.

So do you think Sheena Easton's FYEO has no life, or MR?

That's besides the point. I wanted to hear an Adele song, and I got Adele singing a generic Bond song.

[Henry-Jones-Sr]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the CD single is available to pre-order from Amazon.co.uk. Can't find it listed anywhere else, though.

It's out on October 29th, the only other track is the instrumental version, and it's a whopping £4.99. I just pre-ordered that bad boy.

By the way, so far I'm entirely successful in my mission to not hear this song until the credits are rolling on opening night in a few weeks. I'm not sure how I'm going to get through the next 21 days without hearing it, mind, but I'm going to try!

[Mr_Wint]

This is how a title theme for a Bond movie should sound, IMO. Epic, mysterious. A contemporary edge, but still faithful to John Barry’s original sound. It is not trying to hide the fact that it is a Bond theme.

Grade: 7.5/10. The best Bond theme since TND's Surrender.

[DamnCoffee]

[Turn]

I've listened to it twice and think it's....okay. Seems a bit safe. Of course, that's what you get into with modern Bond, if something is different is it straying too far from comfort or is it too safe and adheres to closely to the formula.

I can't blame them for going with Adele as a top-flight artist currently,but who I personally am sick to death of. At least she's not still going Alanis Morisette over previous boyfriends. And I can rejoice it's not Rihanna or Niki Minaj or Katy Perry or Bieber or other flavor of the moment.

I agree with those who champion the previous themes for CR and QOS. Those were edgy and not slow. Bond isn't slow, that's why I like the more up-tempo themes. But I also like when a song gets the series more exposure and that seems what the song is primed to do. Hope it will grow on me.

[Single-O-Seven]

I voted Not Too Bad. I don't think it is up there with the greats, but I do think it sounds lovely. I think Casino Royale is still better, but I think it also depends how it is in the movie too.

I quite agree that the when the song is placed into its proper context (the opening titles) it could dramatically affect how we hear it from thereafter. How many of us, when listening to the themes, can separate them from the opening titles in our mind's eye? I loved YKMN as well, but have probably listened to it as often as I have simply because in my mind I still recall those amazing visuals from the opening credits.

[DominicGreene]

The song sounds much dramatic with Skyfall footage, you really get a blast of emotional from the context of the song and the visuals.

Edited by DominicGreene, 05 October 2012 - 01:56 PM.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The song sounds much dramatic with Skyfall footage, you really get a blast of emotional from the context of the song and the visuals.

I agree. I'm excited to see it over the title sequence. It looked good with the footage.

[junkanoo]

Adele's song says, in no uncertain terms, 'You hated QoS? You want some old school Bond back? Well Skyfall's gonna give t'ya...'

I think AWTD has received WAY too much criticism here. The song PERFECTLY compliments QOS ... a tragically bad song for an awful film.

[Whalltt]

I don't have to hear it in the film to love it already. It's classic and epic.
When we got AWTD some complaint that it wasn't bondian enough, now we have a truly bondian song and some don't like it. It will always be like that.
For me its perfect for a film that we know will have some tremendous dramatic moments. The moment of the film the song will born from is dramatic.
The song is slow paced? In a Bond film, between explosions, we have slow paced segments, we have romance, we have mystery and deceit. This song has all those elements.
The song must fit the story and the film it was written for, first of all.

[Odd Jobbies]

Adele's song says, in no uncertain terms, 'You hated QoS? You want some old school Bond back? Well Skyfall's gonna give t'ya...'

I think AWTD has received WAY too much criticism here. The song PERFECTLY compliments QOS ... a tragically bad song for an awful film.

My point proven.

Btw, the new footage in that promo is pretty nice

[Shrublands]

Adele's song says, in no uncertain terms, 'You hated QoS? You want some old school Bond back? Well Skyfall's gonna give t'ya...'

I think AWTD has received WAY too much criticism here. The song PERFECTLY compliments QOS ... a tragically bad song for an awful film.

Beautifully put.

[FredJB007]

Just an FYI.......here in the states, the song is already at No.1 on the iTunes charts!