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[Chief of SIS]

Just curious Shark, but what do you think of the preview clip?

I like it, but more for the chorus (really dig the punchy drums, which have got a lot more balls to them than in DA's three songs). There's a neat half time groove going to it. I'm also liking the vulnerability in Adele's vocals (noticed how she doesn't perfectly hit the high C in the chorus, i.e. "stand tall"). Not trying to be diva or ape Bassey.

I wish the harmony was a bit more interesting. Some Major 7ths or jazz chords would be nice. From what I've heard it sounds like the chord progression's straight ripped from Arnold's spin on the Bond theme in YKMNK - with the m6/half-dim 7th chord replaced by a IV (in this case - Cm6 becomes F) - but in the more sombre and brooding key of C minor rather than B minor (like Barry's instrumentals of DAF in its score). Just listen to the YKMN variation at the end of "Dinner Jackets" from CR - then play "Skyfall" immaterially after, and you'll hear what I mean.

The crunchy trombones/tuba in the second verse are promising, and leave me to guess that this is a builder.

Don't know what half of that meant but I feel smarter and more informed for just reading it.

[univex]

Just curious Shark, but what do you think of the preview clip?

I like it, but more for the chorus (really dig the punchy drums, which have got a lot more balls to them than in DA's three songs). There's a neat half time groove going to it. I'm also liking the vulnerability in Adele's vocals (noticed how she doesn't perfectly hit the high C in the chorus, i.e. "stand tall"). Not trying to be diva or ape Bassey.

I wish the harmony was a bit more interesting. Some Major 7ths or jazz chords would be nice. From what I've heard it sounds like the chord progression's straight ripped from Arnold's spin on the Bond theme in YKMNK - with the m6/half-dim 7th chord replaced by a IV (in this case - Cm6 becomes F) - but in the more sombre and brooding key of C minor rather than B minor (like Barry's instrumentals of DAF in its score). Just listen to the YKMN variation at the end of "Dinner Jackets" from CR - then play "Skyfall" immaterially after, and you'll hear what I mean.

The crunchy trombones/tuba in the second verse are promising, and leave me to guess that this is a builder.

Don't know what half of that meant but I feel smarter and more informed for just reading it.

Well, I must say that Shark is spot on. A question for him: what do you think of the similarities with DAF? I have a few ideias, would love to hear from you about it though. Cheers.

[Shrublands]

It's only the inclusion of the Bond theme that I dislike. The rest I like very much.

[univex]

It's only the inclusion of the Bond theme that I dislike. The rest I like very much.

Good to hear Shrubs. One custom-made question for you: Do you think the song bodes well with what we´ve seen so far?

[Peckinpah1976]

I think one of the problems they've had since '95 is trying to honour the tradition but keeping it modern and though this will do wonders for the profile of the film simply by virtue of it being Adele, really it's just a load of old cheese that would have been better suited to the smug naffness of the Brosnan era - the whole concept is very much a product of the sixties but one people just won't let go of (rather like Q and Moneypenny), how many other film franchises concern themselves so much with a tie-in music release?

They should have moved to instrumental music over the opening and relegated such efforts to the closing credits long ago IMO.

[junkanoo]

snip ... but in the more sombre and brooding key of C minor rather than B minor (like Barry's instrumentals of DAF in its score).

What's "sombre and brooding" about Barry's DAF instrumentals? The major use of the DAF theme such as "Bond and Tiffany" and "Plenty then Tiffany" are slow and seductive - a playful tease and appropriate to the tease that is Tiffany Case. This is no Bond's lament.

[univex]

... the whole concept is very much a product of the sixties..., how many other film franchises concern themselves so much with a tie-in music release?

Much like Bond itself then. Don´t see any problem there. And bout other film franchises, same old argument here: if they´ve been doing it for the last 50 years, then they must know what they´re doing. The publicity alone this generates is humongous.

[Gt Munn]

Does anyone know the official release time?

[junkanoo]

They should have moved to instrumental music over the opening and relegated such efforts to the closing credits long ago IMO.

Last I checked the Bond films usually have instrumental music over the opening ... it's called the "James Bond Theme."

[Shrublands]

It's only the inclusion of the Bond theme that I dislike. The rest I like very much.

Good to hear Shrubs. One custom-made question for you: Do you think the song bodes well with what we´ve seen so far?

Are you asking if I think the song will work well as part of the film, based on what we know about it?

[univex]

Does anyone know the official release time?

Last I´ve hear, friday, 0.07am GMT (?) Not sure though.

[iexpectu2die]

The full song seems to have made its way to Soundcloud. A search for 'Adele Skyfall' should do the trick.

[univex]

It's only the inclusion of the Bond theme that I dislike. The rest I like very much.

Good to hear Shrubs. One custom-made question for you: Do you think the song bodes well with what we´ve seen so far?

Are you asking if I think the song will work well as part of the film, based on what we know about it?

Well, yes. But not just the lyrics. YNMN had an energy that ended up being a synergy with the tone of the film. That´s what I´m asking, if you think the tone of the song bodes with the tone of the film,

[JCRendle]

5th Oct 0.07 BST, 4th Oct 16.07 PDT/MST, 4th Oct 18.07 CDT, 4th Oct 19.07 EDT

[Trevelyan 006]

The full song seems to have made its way to Soundcloud. A search for 'Adele Skyfall' should do the trick.

Has it surfaced already?

[PPK_19]

The full song seems to have made its way to Soundcloud. A search for 'Adele Skyfall' should do the trick.

Indeed, my friend posted me the soundcloud link on Facebook but i'm at work so havent had the chance to listen to it yet.

[univex]

Nah, I think it´s just someone messing with the preview so it repeats itself for 3 and a half minutes sped up and with a fake piano intro. That is, if that´s what I´me hearing.

[Satorious]

Just woken from my night-shoot haze and returning back to the real world. Wow - what a way to wake! This sounds completely effortlesss and timeless compared to most of the recent songs. Really want to hear the full version now, could possibly the best song since the mid 80's. I really hope Newman was able to weave it in his score.

[JCRendle]

There are a couple of songs the right length on there, but they're not the full theme, ones a hack job, cutting the short preview we've got and just pasting it together a few times, another is nothing to do with it - and there are a couple of home made versions.

Edited by JCRendle, 02 October 2012 - 03:18 PM.

[junkanoo]

The full song seems to have made its way to Soundcloud. A search for 'Adele Skyfall' should do the trick.

Posted by what user name ... as I don't see it.

[univex]

there a couple of songs the right length on there, but they're not the full theme, ones a hack job, cutting the short preview we've got and just pasting it together a few times, another is nothing to do with it - and there are a couple of home made versions.

That´s what I´m getting as well.

[iexpectu2die]

Ah, apologies, the 'correct length' version is indeed a bag of balls.

[Dustin]

It's not that long now any more, I indeed prefer to wait until I can have the real thing.

[Shrublands]

It's only the inclusion of the Bond theme that I dislike. The rest I like very much.

Good to hear Shrubs. One custom-made question for you: Do you think the song bodes well with what we´ve seen so far?

Are you asking if I think the song will work well as part of the film, based on what we know about it?

Well, yes. But not just the lyrics. YNMN had an energy that ended up being a synergy with the tone of the film. That´s what I´m asking, if you think the tone of the song bodes with the tone of the film,

I think that it will. It very much sounds like a Bond theme and this is a Bond film with a capital B. The photography, and what we know of the story, is atmospheric and epic – this song fits with all that. Songs like GE and Surrender came across like Bond pastiche – To me, this SF song does not cross into that territory, it seems to stay just the right side of an elusive line, just (and that's no mean feet).

A lot will depend on the mood of the score that surrounds it, not just if the song is included in the score – though I see that as important too. But I’m confident that’s going to meld with this.

So, a film and a song that are very Bond without entering into pastiche or corny-Bond-by-numbers is the ambition – both seem to live in the same place, from what I know at this point.

[junkanoo]

A lot will depend on the mood of the score that surrounds it, not just if the song is included in the score – though I see that as important too. But I’m confident that’s going to meld with this.

I'd expect the same. If not a full track at least musical cues. Seems like a lot of great material to mine and we've only listened to a portion of the song.

[univex]

It's only the inclusion of the Bond theme that I dislike. The rest I like very much.

Good to hear Shrubs. One custom-made question for you: Do you think the song bodes well with what we´ve seen so far?

Are you asking if I think the song will work well as part of the film, based on what we know about it?

Well, yes. But not just the lyrics. YNMN had an energy that ended up being a synergy with the tone of the film. That´s what I´m asking, if you think the tone of the song bodes with the tone of the film,

I think that it will. It very much sounds like a Bond theme and this is a Bond film with a capital B. The photography, and what we know of the story, is atmospheric and epic – this song fits with all that. Songs like GE and Surrender came across like Bond pastiche – To me, this SF song does not cross into that territory, it seems to stay just the right side of an elusive line, just (and that's no mean feet).

A lot will depend on the mood of the score that surrounds it, not just if the song is included in the score – though I see that as important too. But I’m confident that’s going to meld with this.

So, a film and a song that are very Bond without entering into pastiche or corny-Bond-by-numbers is the ambition – both seem to live in the same place, from what I know at this point.

Many thanks. Your answer mirrors my feelings. Cheers.

[delfloria]

This theme has great potential. Have you heard this piano solo of the theme?

[JCRendle]

I like. I can image that running through some scenes.

[Royal Dalton]

Our very own ACE was talking about this on the Beeb just now.

[MattofSteel]

Gorgeous.