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#121 Sark2.0

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 03:41 AM

Dear Zorin,

No, I think, after Sir Hilary's long boring speech about geneology and lack of response to the girls' flirting, the girl in question is assuming Bray is allergic to girls. Ruby, observing Hilly's reaction to her writing her room number on his thigh, knows better. Her response isn't an answer but a refutation. Just like in Goldfinger, they couldn't get away with being any more obvious than that about homosexuality, but as a result Maibaum came up with some pretty clever dialogue to clue in the more savvy audience members.

BTW, it took me years to catch on to the "collars and cuffs" line in DAF (and by that I mean I only figured it out very recently) so I guess I don't count myself as being all that savvy.


Exactly. They suspect that Sir Hilary is allergic to girls. However one of the Angels thinks otherwise and suggests the theory is a load of "balls".

Also, Zorin, Plenty O'Toole is referring to Plenty's dad potentially have a large "tool". LFAO - what else could it be? B)

My innocent mind always thought he was implying that her father was a handyman of sorts. He wouldn't even have to be a handyman, even today tools are associated with men more than women.

#122 Zorin Industries

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 10:03 AM

Dear Zorin,

No, I think, after Sir Hilary's long boring speech about geneology and lack of response to the girls' flirting, the girl in question is assuming Bray is allergic to girls. Ruby, observing Hilly's reaction to her writing her room number on his thigh, knows better. Her response isn't an answer but a refutation. Just like in Goldfinger, they couldn't get away with being any more obvious than that about homosexuality, but as a result Maibaum came up with some pretty clever dialogue to clue in the more savvy audience members.

BTW, it took me years to catch on to the "collars and cuffs" line in DAF (and by that I mean I only figured it out very recently) so I guess I don't count myself as being all that savvy.


Yes, BRAY/BOND does set himself up to not like "girls" round the Piz Gloria dinner table. Of course. But RUBY is left wondering his leanings (hence her dig - "Course I know what he's allergic to"), but NANCY sees right through that and answers to herself and her theory he is lying (hence the "bezants" line). I think!


Also, Zorin, Plenty O'Toole is referring to Plenty's dad potentially have a large "tool". LFAO - what else could it be? B)

Why on earth would BOND be alluding to PLENTY having a large cock? It makes no sense. It is a dig alluding to a big star of the time, Peter O'Toole. The "of course you are" is about the PLENTY and the O'TOOLE is about the father... I think (!).

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 11:08 PM

Milton Krest is quite disturbing. B)

"I wanna deep six him!"
"I don't like it, he can finger me!"

:tdown:

There actually isn't any sexual nods here. Far from it.

Licence to Kill:
"I could do with some plastic!" - Bond needs condoms.

Er, not on that line, I'm afraid.

"Mature readers only"..... Right....


Yes, if we're going to read sexual innuendo into lines that were not intended as racy (or at least I don't think they were), then here's a couple of examples from the PTS of CASINO ROYALE:

"If M thought I was bent she'd have sent a Double-O."

"Made you feel it, did he?"

Oo-er, missus!

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 12:07 AM

Dear Zorin,

No, I think, after Sir Hilary's long boring speech about geneology and lack of response to the girls' flirting, the girl in question is assuming Bray is allergic to girls. Ruby, observing Hilly's reaction to her writing her room number on his thigh, knows better. Her response isn't an answer but a refutation. Just like in Goldfinger, they couldn't get away with being any more obvious than that about homosexuality, but as a result Maibaum came up with some pretty clever dialogue to clue in the more savvy audience members.

BTW, it took me years to catch on to the "collars and cuffs" line in DAF (and by that I mean I only figured it out very recently) so I guess I don't count myself as being all that savvy.


Yes, BRAY/BOND does set himself up to not like "girls" round the Piz Gloria dinner table. Of course. But RUBY is left wondering his leanings (hence her dig - "Course I know what he's allergic to"), but NANCY sees right through that and answers to herself and her theory he is lying (hence the "bezants" line). I think!


Also, Zorin, Plenty O'Toole is referring to Plenty's dad potentially have a large "tool". LFAO - what else could it be? B)

Why on earth would BOND be alluding to PLENTY having a large cock? It makes no sense. It is a dig alluding to a big star of the time, Peter O'Toole. The "of course you are" is about the PLENTY and the O'TOOLE is about the father... I think (!).


What? You haven't read my post. It clearly says Plenty's dad (I've even highlighted it).

Her surname is of course her father's (O'Toole). Bond is insinuating jokingly that her parents named her after her father's large appendage. O'Toole was already the surname, plenty describes his tool. This is obvious.

#125 AMC Hornet

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 01:40 AM

Don't forget the first part of the exchange. Lana Wood leans her gigantic tits in close to Bond and says "Hi, I'm plenty." Bond pauses a beat while he takes in the enormity of her intrusion and remarks "But of course you are."

Then the discussion comes around to her surname, which suggests that large appendages run in the family.

Never mind, let's go back to lines like Loomis found in CR.

Christmas: "So we're going up, then?"

Vesper: "You're not going back in there?" and "I sized you up the moment we met."

Taken out of context, anything can have a sexual connotation (for proof of this do like they did on 'Whose Line Is It Anyway' and just add "if you know what I mean" or "if you catch my drift" to the any of any statemet or question).

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 08:54 AM

TLD "Would you like ANOTHER ride?" asks the Ferris wheel attendant. Presumably that's what Bond has just had with Kara whilst the wheel was stuck.

TSWLM "Keeping the British END up Sir!" The closest Bond ever came (ooh-er) to Carry On Spying.

Octopussy "I need re-filling"

GE- "How do you take it?" "Straight up. With a twist" (accompanied by a non-too subtle stroking of a cigar to illustrate the point)
GE- "You're just showing off the size of your.." "Engine?" "Ego"

Thunderball- I've always assumed, despite the Adam-Ant style "Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do" stuff about Vargas,that he has a bit of an eye for Bond. Watch the lecherous way he eyes him up and down when he holds him up against the wall in the hotel during Fiona Volpe's speech. And also the way, when he boards the boat on leaving the casino, in which he HAS to have one last look at Connery before the boat leaves.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 10:51 AM

At last. A thread that's on my childish smutty wavelength!

A few more

OHMSS "I have been informed of everything you have done for my daughter"
"EVERYTHING???"

CR- When Bond and Vesper are frollicking on the bed in the clinic where he's recuperating, there's a moment's pause where they both exchange a knowing smile before rolling off the bed. Is this because, for the 1st time since his torture, that "something big's come up"? That's certainly how it appears.

YOLT " In Japan, men always come first"
" I might just retire to here"


YOLT " I get it from the doorman at the Russian Embassy....along with certain other things...."

NSNA- Bond on the phone to Smallfawcett whilst going at it with Valerie Leon " Just be brief, I don't have too much time"

#128 AMC Hornet

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 12:51 AM

Thank you, Hilly, for mentioning Henderson's line in YOLT. I was going to mention it myself. I think we're supposed to assume he's talking about information, but something about the way he says it - and the way he played Blofeld in DAF - leaves you wondering what sort of 'special relationship' they might have outside of work.

Two more obvious ones from Bond & Xenia's exchange in GE:

"One rises to meet a challenge," &
"I like a woman who enjoys pulling rank."

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 08:06 AM

"I like a woman who enjoys pulling rank."


I never got the innuendo on that one, to be honest! I always thought that Bond was real on what he said! B)

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 08:10 AM

Do many people really miss the "collars and cuffs" line? If so I am surprised, but maybe it's a double entendre which is common and well known in the UK but not outside of it.

Well I'm an American and I'm not sure I get it. Can someone set me straight on the double entendre of this line? I'm assuming that it's a reference to matching head and pubic hair or am I wrong on this?

Thank you, Hilly, for mentioning Henderson's line in YOLT. I was going to mention it myself. I think we're supposed to assume he's talking about information, but something about the way he says it - and the way he played Blofeld in DAF - leaves you wondering what sort of 'special relationship' they might have outside of work.

I never took it that he had a romantic relationship with the Russian embassy doorman. I've always taken it that he just obtained various items from the man such as information, liquor, caviar, women, etc.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 10:38 AM

CR- When Bond and Vesper are frollicking on the bed in the clinic where he's recuperating, there's a moment's pause where they both exchange a knowing smile before rolling off the bed. Is this because, for the 1st time since his torture, that "something big's come up"? That's certainly how it appears.

Exactly. In the novel, Bond is naturally concerned whether he can still function sexually, and this little moment in the film, nicely played by Craig and Green, shows us the moment when Bond realizes that he can.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 10:13 AM

Do many people really miss the "collars and cuffs" line? If so I am surprised, but maybe it's a double entendre which is common and well known in the UK but not outside of it.

Well I'm an American and I'm not sure I get it. Can someone set me straight on the double entendre of this line? I'm assuming that it's a reference to matching head and pubic hair or am I wrong on this?

Thank you, Hilly, for mentioning Henderson's line in YOLT. I was going to mention it myself. I think we're supposed to assume he's talking about information, but something about the way he says it - and the way he played Blofeld in DAF - leaves you wondering what sort of 'special relationship' they might have outside of work.

I never took it that he had a romantic relationship with the Russian embassy doorman. I've always taken it that he just obtained various items from the man such as information, liquor, caviar, women, etc.



One more from YOLT

Blofeld " I must congratulate you, Gentlemen, on your superb equipment"
" We congratulate YOU sir, upon the way you handle it"...

#133 Zorin Industries

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 10:51 AM

Guys, you do know that a lot of the lines quoted here are not innuendo, euphemisms or sexually loaded...? Just pointing that one out...

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:08 PM

Guys, you do know that a lot of the lines quoted here are not innuendo


Bond films are littered with it

#135 AMC Hornet

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:47 AM

Dear Zorin,

Of course not all the lines being quoted here are deliberate innuendo, but it proves the point I was making about TV censors: that anything can be suspected of containing a double entendre if that's what you're looking for.

After meeting with Tatiana in FRWL, Bond reports to M "merchandise appears genuine." - clearly refering to Tatiana's breasts not being augmented, disguised as a reference to her description of the Lektor decoder.

See how the game is played?

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 09:19 AM

Dear Zorin,

Of course not all the lines being quoted here are deliberate innuendo, but it proves the point I was making about TV censors: that anything can be suspected of containing a double entendre if that's what you're looking for.

After meeting with Tatiana in FRWL, Bond reports to M "merchandise appears genuine." - clearly refering to Tatiana's breasts not being augmented, disguised as a reference to her description of the Lektor decoder.

See how the game is played?

Dear AMC Hornet,

Thanks for the message.

As someone who knows a thing or two about writing innuendo, the RUSSIA line "merchandise appears genuine" is NOT about TATIANA's breasts, but a general allusion to her personally and of course the Lektor. It is not about augmented breasts.

Of course censors the world over will over-react to something or other (they have to - it's what they are paid for). But finding double-meanings when there are none is not usually their - or my - habit. And as I said, a few of the instances mentioned in this thread are not sexually loaded.

Regards,

Zorin Industries plc.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:21 AM

MATHIS: "Do you think she has handcuffs?"
BOND: "Oh, I do hope so."

S&M, anyone? B)


Ha!

"Moneypenny, next time I see you... I'll put you across my knee!"
"On yoghurt and lemon juice?"

She's into food sex.
He's into S&M.
What a LETHAL combination. :tdown:


And as for M's comment in the same film about Bond and his "enthusiasm for Water Sports"...... :tdown:

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:50 PM

"I like a woman who enjoys pulling rank."


I never got the innuendo on that one, to be honest! I always thought that Bond was real on what he said! :tdown:

When Xenia prompts Bond to impress her with his military rank (Commander) and her date for the night comes along whom happens to be an Admiral (thus outranking Bond), the line points to the obvious meaning of someone pulling rank; meaning to outdo another by stating their military rank/experience/position. But then, of course, the sexual connotation means that Bond enjoys a woman who herself partakes in sleeping with various men of military heirarchy, and that once she has done with the Admiral she can move onto Bond.
A lot of childish, smutty examples on here- keep it up gents B) I was going to say about the "straight up, with a twist" line, but that's been suggested and my mind has hit a complete blank at present. I must say though, for me DAD is full of completely non-subtle, crude lines that make it one of the reasons I dislike it so much- it hasn't got the classic sexual hints that most Bond films are full of, instead simply dishing out horrid, blatantly obvious lines make it so damn obvious even Stevie Wonder could see what they mean.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:01 PM

Ah, one that has just struck me: in Casino Royale, when Bond and Vesper are in the hotel suite getting ready for the evening, Bond produces his tux and demands a reply from Vesper where it came from and how it's tailored.
"I sized you up the moment I saw you". Obviously she's referring to his body shape hence why the suit is tailored, but is there more to that line or am I being a tad childish? B)

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:48 PM

Also from Casino Royale.
Bond "Can I ask you a personal question"
Solange "Now might not be an appropriate moment" (or something along those lines). It's not the line, so much as the fact that she is, at that moment, erm..heading south, shall we say, down Bond's torso and will presumably soon, like all polite people,not want to speak with her mouth full....

And, going in completely the opposite direction, from Moonraker.

"Any higher Mr Bond, and my ears will pop" from the stewardess, mid-snog, as Rog's hand shoots North up her leg ( accompanied by a shot of the plane in the air for full effect)

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 01:24 AM

AVTAK:

"I'll fill you in later, Moneypenny."

Clearly referring to sex, not just to telling her how the trip home from Siberia took a lot out of him (I wonder what he meant by that?).

And before you write back, Zorin, I know that this isn't a real innuendo, just as I know the "merchandise" line from FRWL wasn't, hence the "see how the game is played?" prompt. I just think that attaching innuendo to the lines that could be innuendo shows more imagination than does recognizing the lines that are innuendo.

BTW, isn't 'Innuendo' the brand name of an italian suppository?

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 04:08 AM

Also from Casino Royale.
Bond "Can I ask you a personal question"
Solange "Now might not be an appropriate moment" (or something along those lines). It's not the line, so much as the fact that she is, at that moment, erm..heading south, shall we say, down Bond's torso and will presumably soon, like all polite people,not want to speak with her mouth full....


Only she isnt going down there to do that. She's merely kissing his stomach. The reason she says now is not the time is because they are making out.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 09:32 AM

AVTAK:

"I'll fill you in later, Moneypenny."

Clearly referring to sex, not just to telling her how the trip home from Siberia took a lot out of him (I wonder what he meant by that?).

And before you write back, Zorin, I know that this isn't a real innuendo, just as I know the "merchandise" line from FRWL wasn't, hence the "see how the game is played?" prompt. I just think that attaching innuendo to the lines that could be innuendo shows more imagination than does recognizing the lines that are innuendo.

BTW, isn't 'Innuendo' the brand name of an italian suppository?


No. I don't think attaching innuendo when there is none is remotely more imaginative than enjoying or creating proper double-allusions. How would it be? And the lines you quote are not innuendo by any stretch.

TIBBET : "I've never seen a horse run such a fast, last furlong" (PHNAR PHNAR!)

AUBERGINE : "Perhaps we should add this one to our collection, no?" (Oooh, I say...)

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 02:16 PM

AVTAK:

"I'll fill you in later, Moneypenny."

Clearly referring to sex, not just to telling her how the trip home from Siberia took a lot out of him (I wonder what he meant by that?).

And before you write back, Zorin, I know that this isn't a real innuendo, just as I know the "merchandise" line from FRWL wasn't, hence the "see how the game is played?" prompt. I just think that attaching innuendo to the lines that could be innuendo shows more imagination than does recognizing the lines that are innuendo.

BTW, isn't 'Innuendo' the brand name of an italian suppository?


No. I don't think attaching innuendo when there is none is remotely more imaginative than enjoying or creating proper double-allusions. How would it be? And the lines you quote are not innuendo by any stretch.

TIBBET : "I've never seen a horse run such a fast, last furlong" (PHNAR PHNAR!)

AUBERGINE : "Perhaps we should add this one to our collection, no?" (Oooh, I say...)


There are plenty of comedians and writers out there who have made their living based on doing just that. It could equally be said that a good 50% of the forums here are based on analysing the Bond films for elements that the producers never intended.(in fact the same could be said of fandom in general). It doesn't make us any more or less intellectual, or less of a fan.It's just a bit of fun....

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 02:43 PM

"I'll fill you in later, Moneypenny."

Clearly referring to sex


B) I have heard that term used many times in conversation never thought of it in that way

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 02:52 PM

There are plenty of comedians and writers out there who have made their living based on doing just that.


I am VERY aware of that, from a personal standpoint. And I am also aware of where there is not innuendo. Have fun looking at innuendo. I do it myself in a different context, but don't highlight stuff that is not even single-entendre.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 05:49 PM

There are plenty of comedians and writers out there who have made their living based on doing just that.


I am VERY aware of that, from a personal standpoint. And I am also aware of where there is not innuendo. Have fun looking at innuendo. I do it myself in a different context, but don't highlight stuff that is not even single-entendre.


Thanks for pointing that out. I'd assumed that forums were a means by which we could express opinions. Your last line would seem to imply otherwise. I stand corrected but also stand by my previous statement that it's just a bit of fun

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 05:51 PM

Well then I hope my back end will stand up to it (to paraphrase Ms Rigg).

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 04:08 PM

It depends on how much pumping is needed..

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 10:29 AM

I'll be honest, until the UE DVDs English subtitles, there were several lines in Connery's Bond films that I just couldn't understand. It also shone a light on this cracker almost thrown away in the sound mix of OHMSS:

Irma Bunt (in pidgin English, getting into helicopter): First you must your pipe knock off.

Bond: Knock out, you mean...I hope.

And a more obvious one that hasn't been mentioned here yet:

Anya (to injured Bond): Why don't you lie down and let me look at it?

And
Bond (to Fatima Blush): Going down, one should always be relaxed.