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#361 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:46 AM

http://aintitcool.com/node/42545

Script sounds great.



#362 Loomis

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 02:49 AM

http://aintitcool.com/node/42545

I wonder is Sly and Not Arnold is the cameo...that would be cool!


It would, but I see nothing to suggest that Stallone will have a cameo in PREDATORS (although he is apparently a pal of Robert Rodriguez, was linked to PREDATOR 3 a few years ago, and is, as we know, remaking PREDATOR under the title RAMBO V: THE SAVAGE HUNT). It'd be quite an amusing gag if the Predators had picked Rambo as one of Earth's ultimate badasses to bring back and hunt on their own turf.

Script sounds great.


It sounds okay. How do humans breathe on the Predators' home planet?

It does sound more interesting than PREDATOR 2 and the AVP flicks, although that's hardly saying much. I'd be much more excited if John McTiernan were directing instead of this Nimrod guy (although in truth McTiernan seems utterly washed-up).

#363 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 03:01 AM

http://aintitcool.com/node/42545

I wonder is Sly and Not Arnold is the cameo...that would be cool!


It would, but I see nothing to suggest that Stallone will have a cameo in PREDATORS (although he is apparently a pal of Robert Rodriguez, was linked to PREDATOR 3 a few years ago, and is, as we know, remaking PREDATOR under the title RAMBO V: THE SAVAGE HUNT). It'd be quite an amusing gag if the Predators had picked Rambo as one of Earth's ultimate badasses to bring back and hunt on their own turf.

Script sounds great.


It sounds okay. How do humans breathe on the Predators' home planet?

It does sound more interesting than PREDATOR 2 and the AVP flicks, although that's hardly saying much. I'd be much more excited if John McTiernan were directing instead of this Nimrod guy (although in truth McTiernan seems utterly washed-up).


Predator breates fine on earth so I see no descrepency of logic here. I like that the men are kidknapped rather than take an Man made ship to the Predator world. I think this idea sounds good...I just hope they get the casting right. Here's a good post on AICN about Predator/Aliens:

..hilarious. "Oh my gawd, a multicultural cast, this is bull[censored]!" Wasn't the blessed original filled with a multicultural cast. Three white guys, two black guys, a hispanic and an indian if i remember correctly.
Chill the B) out.

And i'm pretty sure "predator falcons" and "predator dogs" is just short-speak for predatory avians and canines indigenous to the Predator homeworld. There is many an example of scripts that simplify specifics just to get the point across to the suits. Instead of saying "falcon-like creature indigenous to the Predators world" they just created a simpler term.

Chill the :tdown: out.

The only problem i have with the review, is that they don't mention if the characters are worth a damn. Do they stand out as unique and interesting characters or are they just ciphers waiting to be slaughtered? The real problem with the :tdown:wits behind both AVPs is they either forgot or never really knew why Predator and Alien/Aliens are classics: the characters are the stars not the creatures. The Predator and the Aliens were just icing on a cake of bad-assery in the first place. Both Franchises are endlessly quotable because of the humans. The parts and the actors made those films what they were. The bells and whistles of high tech alien gizmos and monstrous savagery just defined what genre we were watching.


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Posted 03 October 2009 - 04:57 PM

Further news on future plans:

You've gotta love Sylvester Stallone. The guy was a dominant force in '80s cinema, particularly with his iconic Rocky Balboa and Rambo characters. Not to mention debatable classics like "Nighthawks," "Cobra," "Over the Top" and "Tango & Cash." He lost some luster over the next decade, but returned to the public eye once again -- ironically -- when he revisited the roles that made him in "Rambo" (2008) and "Rocky Balboa" (2006).

Now that's he's firmly reestablished himself, the Italian Stallion is turning his attention to other possibilities. We already know he's set to star in director Robert Rodriguez's "The Expendables." Now, speaking to Empire, Stallone also revealed that he's interested in remaking the Charles Bronson-starring classic "Death Wish" in addition to a long-gestating biopic on Edgar Allen Poe.

"I'm thinking about ['Death Wish']," Stallone said. "It's a classic morality tale, where you take a civilized man and take away everything that matters to him so he becomes primitive again." Not exactly an original idea, but this is a remake we're talking about. For his part, Stallone seems to be aware of the potential pitfalls.

"The trouble with remakes is that people fall in love with the original. It's like peanut butter. If you try to change the taste of peanut butter, you're in trouble," he said.

As for the Poe pic, Stallone wants to get it done, and done right. He's conscious of the demands of such a role, and he recognizes that, passion project or not, this might not be the vehicle for him to headline. "Of course, I'm not playing Poe," he told Empire. "'Yo, Poe!' It won't work! It'll be some young actor because he dies at 39, but it's gonna happen."

It's refreshing to hear this sort of frank talk from Stallone, not that it's anything new. His age of action stardom may have passed, but that doesn't matter. Stallone is better than that now, an actor/filmmaker who deserves your respect.


I dunno if the Poe project will happen. But the DW remake sounds like it could rock.


And from Variety:

If Rambo hits big, this deal for Death Wish will generate even more excitement. And if Sly's Death Wish hits big, MGM is prepared to make it into a franchise for him, which could sustain Stallone well into his 70s (Bronson was in his early 70s when he made his last Death Wish).

Let us think: Rocky, Rambo, The Expendables...add in, maybe DW--and I think Sly would hold the world record for the number of film franchises.

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Posted 03 October 2009 - 07:52 PM

Didn't Stallone cancel Death Wish because of the backlash over the idea?

And that article isnt entirely accurate. Rodriguez directing Expendables??

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 06:50 PM

Whoa: I believe the first shot in this link is the worst photo ever taken of Stallone...or any actor.

http://www.whosdated...s/?RD=000230901

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 11:00 PM

Whoa: I believe the first shot in this link is the worst photo ever taken of Stallone...or any actor.

http://www.whosdated...s/?RD=000230901


LMAO!

#368 Loomis

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:07 AM

Didn't Stallone cancel Death Wish because of the backlash over the idea?


That was my understanding, yes. However, perhaps he's changed his mind again.

At any rate, I'm still not keen on the idea of Stallone doing DEATH WISH. It just seems utterly pointless.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:55 AM

Didn't Stallone cancel Death Wish because of the backlash over the idea?


That was my understanding, yes. However, perhaps he's changed his mind again.

At any rate, I'm still not keen on the idea of Stallone doing DEATH WISH. It just seems utterly pointless.


Plus you can't help but think he might tone down some of the content to make it more appealing to a mass "Stallone loving" audience.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 01:40 PM

Why? I would have thought there was fair amount of cross-over between the "Stallone audience" and the "Bronson/Death Wish audience".

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:06 PM

What I meant was, some of the subject matter that was present in the original Death Wish might seem inappropriate in today's marketplace.

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:02 AM

You mean rape? I suppose...

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:25 AM

Didn't Stallone cancel Death Wish because of the backlash over the idea?


That was my understanding, yes. However, perhaps he's changed his mind again.

At any rate, I'm still not keen on the idea of Stallone doing DEATH WISH. It just seems utterly pointless.


I'd love to see him do Death Wish. The original was good, but suffered from, as far as I recall, a hugely anticlimatic ending.

I'm also a sucker for revenge-movies (I even loved all the Punisher movies), so seeing one with one of the best action stars in history would be cool.

Death Wish has pretty much been remade twice recently, as The Brave One and Death Sentence, both good movies (with anticlimatic endings!).

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 12:24 PM

And Michael Caine's HARRY BROWN appears to be another DEATH WISH remake.

I really hope Stallone won't prioritise DEATH WISH over RAMBO V. Returning to Rambo is hardly an original move, of course, but the idea of a dramatic shift in genre to semi-sci-fi seems ballsy and appealing (apparently, Rambo will go up against a genetically-engineered monster created by scientists trying to develop the perfect soldier).

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 05:01 PM

The basic concept of Death Wish has by now become a very standard action movie plot, which I'm pretty sure it would be no exaggeration to say has been used in more than a 100 movies. The only reason to make a Death Wish remake is because some suit out there thinks the brand name, such as it is, will add another million or two to the final gross somewhere along the line.

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 11:00 PM

I don't know about the Death Wish thing. How does Sly propose to match epic moments like this? :



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Posted 08 October 2009 - 04:25 PM

Anyone else just a bit excited about this film? I can't wait to see THE EXPENDABLES featuring Sly Stallone, Jason Statham, Jet Li, Dolph Lundgren, Mickey Rourke, Steve Austin, Randy Couture and more! In one film. Crazy. I can almost smell the testosterone!!! Roll on 2010 and... BRING ON THE EXPLOSIONS!!!

Some Expendables wallpapers & pictures samples:


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Expendables Youtube videos:

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I collected all Expendables medias ( Pics & Vids ) i can found in this site :
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 08:01 PM

The basic concept of Death Wish has by now become a very standard action movie plot, which I'm pretty sure it would be no exaggeration to say has been used in more than a 100 movies. The only reason to make a Death Wish remake is because some suit out there thinks the brand name, such as it is, will add another million or two to the final gross somewhere along the line.


I doubt it would be an exaggeration to say it's been done by 500 films.

Still, I personally never tire of revenge movies, the good ones that is. There's usually not much in terms of originality in them, and I think the idea of revenge making you feel better about your loss is just wrong, but I'm always entertained when watching people avenge their raped daughter/murdered family/friend whose legs were eaten by a shark.

Also, the concept of Stallone, second only to Ahnuld when it comes to iconic action heroes, doing such a film is mouthwatering for me.

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 09:35 PM

Also, the concept of Stallone, second only to Ahnuld when it comes to iconic action heroes, doing such a film is mouthwatering for me.


I'm a massive Stallone fan as well as a lover of iconic action sagas, but I find the idea of his doing DEATH WISH just plain boring. And there's no franchise potential beyond having the character move to a new city and find himself having to turn vigilante again against another bunch of street toughs.

With the best will in the world (and the best training, the best Chemical Help™, the most convincing hair dye, the most sympathetic cinematography, etc.), Stallone has only a few more years in which to do action movies. And I hope he does a few more. But, honestly, can't he find anything more exciting to do than a remake of DEATH WISH? If he can't (and I can't believe he can't), I'd prefer him to spend the extra time making RAMBO V truly special and/or doing an EXPENDABLES sequel.

There must be other projects. Watching OLDBOY last night, it occurred to me that Stallone would be a much better star for Spielberg's proposed remake than Will Smith. Why can't Sly do something like that if he wants to combine action heroics with a brand name? (I know that OLDBOY isn't an action movie, as such, but it does have some pretty awesome fights in it.)

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 01:26 AM

Stallone as the star of the OLDBOY remake? Yuck. The main character of OLDBOY shouldn't be, by any means, a giant hulk of muscle mass. He's a "regular guy," so to speak, not a bodybuilder.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:12 AM

Still, I personally never tire of revenge movies, the good ones that is. There's usually not much in terms of originality in them, and I think the idea of revenge making you feel better about your loss is just wrong, but I'm always entertained when watching people avenge their raped daughter/murdered family/friend whose legs were eaten by a shark.

Also, the concept of Stallone, second only to Ahnuld when it comes to iconic action heroes, doing such a film is mouthwatering for me.


Me too. In fact, I guess a Death Wish remake is an inevitability the way things are, and I'd probably rather see Stallone do it than anyone else, so I guess it's kind of a best case scenario.

Allegedly Arnold was attached to a Death Wish remake in the late 90s, and was spotted buying a copy of the original book. (Now a 90s Death Wish remake would have been desperate given that the last sequel was only released in 94, and remake fever hadn't quite gripped Hollywood yet)

Stallone as the star of the OLDBOY remake? Yuck. The main character of OLDBOY shouldn't be, by any means, a giant hulk of muscle mass. He's a "regular guy," so to speak, not a bodybuilder.


Still better than Will Smith though, no?

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 11:11 AM

Allegedly Arnold was attached to a Death Wish remake in the late 90s, and was spotted buying a copy of the original book. (Now a 90s Death Wish remake would have been desperate given that the last sequel was only released in 94, and remake fever hadn't quite gripped Hollywood yet)


I agree it would've been too early back then, but I wouldn't mind seeing Arnold do a Death Wish remake after he is done with his job as governator. It wouldn't necessarily require a lot of outlandish stunts, so I'm sure he could still do it.

Really, I just want to see Arnold return to movies sooner or later, I miss the guy.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 11:18 AM

Stallone as the star of the OLDBOY remake? Yuck. The main character of OLDBOY shouldn't be, by any means, a giant hulk of muscle mass. He's a "regular guy," so to speak, not a bodybuilder.


Yes, it'd be like casting Adrien Brody as the star of PREDATOR 3. Oh, wait.

The lead character in OLDBOY does a lot of physical training during his captivity and goes from being overweight and ordinary to hard and imposing. At the start of my fantasy remake of OLDBOY, Stallone looks a bit like he does in COP LAND, but for the majority of the film looks like he does for the most part of ROCKY BALBOA.

But my point isn't so much that Stallone should star in OLDBOY (although I think he should :tdown: ). Apart from anything else, Smith has already been cast. My point is more to illustrate the kind of project I wish Stallone would get involved in - something more adventurous, playing darker roles. Similarly, I wish he'd been in THE SOPRANOS, not as Tony, but as a supporting character for a season. I love that he's still playing Rocky and Rambo and making THE EXPENDABLES, but I regret that he isn't doing COP LAND-type stuff on the side. I wish he'd stretch himself a bit instead of doing DEATH WISH, which seems like the easy option. Hell, based on ROCKY BALBOA and RAMBO, he'd be as good a director for OLDBOY as Spielberg - he needn't even star in it if you don't want to see him as Oh Dae-su. B)

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:57 PM

I wish I could believe that you guys are only joking about Saint Stephen being allowed anywhere near a remake of OLD BOY. Alas, I feel the coming of something that don't smell like roses.

This just in an hour ago...a cool official Expendables group image:

http://ontheflix.com...stars-together/

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:33 PM

Almost just-in, news on Sly's Amazing Linguistic Adventure:

Arnold Schwarzenegger has a cameo in Sylvester Stallone's "The Expendables," which he previously described the following way: "I walk out of a hotel or out of an office building and [Stallone] will walk up and we will bump into each other and there will be some mumbling and then we will walk off."

Apparently that wasn't enough of a description for fans, so when Stallone visited Venice recently, an Italian newspaper asked him for a few more details. "Arnold plays a mercenary who tries to steal my character's job," he explained. "There's a funny scene where we show our
rivality, like in our careers."

I like that word and surely hope the two rivalitize!

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:10 PM

I wish I could believe that you guys are only joking about Saint Stephen being allowed anywhere near a remake of OLD BOY. Alas, I feel the coming of something that don't smell like roses.


Well, to be fair, "dark" material does seem to bring out the best in Spielberg. AI, MINORITY REPORT and MUNICH, flawed though they are, showcase him as a far more interesting, risk-taking, sensitive and accomplished director than you'd be forgiven for thinking if you saw only his more commercial work.

It's odd to think he went from MUNICH to INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, and may follow THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN: SECRET OF THE UNICORN with OLDBOY (although, given TINTIN's staggeringly long post-production period, OLDBOY may actually end up hitting cinemas first) - it's almost as though we're talking about two very different directors.

So, yes, I'd like to see his OLDBOY. Unlike Stallone with DEATH WISH, I don't consider Spielberg to be taking the easy option with this remake, because he wouldn't be in his comfort zone (by contrast, CRYSTAL SKULL is the cinematic equivalent of a guy slumped in an armchair with his favourite music, a succession of huge spliffs and plenty of chocolate - he's having a wonderful time, but it's a pretty damn dull spectacle for the onlooker). In fact, I think it's a project that's likely to bring out the best in him. I'm curious to see how he thinks he can improve on the original (which is, in its way, a classic), and I also believe that the material will inspire and stretch him (in a way that something like INDIANA JONES 5 wouldn't).

I think Spielberg's OLDBOY will be a visual feast, with an absolutely mindblowingly awesome first half hour. It'll tail off slightly, while remaining very good indeed, and then it'll all peter out into a stupefyingly sentimental and sugary ending that appears to defeat the whole purpose of all that went before. It'll be 75% an utterly brilliant film.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 06:27 PM

I wish I could believe that you guys are only joking about Saint Stephen being allowed anywhere near a remake of OLD BOY. Alas, I feel the coming of something that don't smell like roses.


Well, to be fair, "dark" material does seem to bring out the best in Spielberg. AI, MINORITY REPORT and MUNICH, flawed though they are, showcase him as a far more interesting, risk-taking, sensitive and accomplished director than you'd be forgiven for thinking if you saw only his more commercial work.

It's odd to think he went from MUNICH to INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, and may follow THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN: SECRET OF THE UNICORN with OLDBOY (although, given TINTIN's staggeringly long post-production period, OLDBOY may actually end up hitting cinemas first) - it's almost as though we're talking about two very different directors.

So, yes, I'd like to see his OLDBOY. Unlike Stallone with DEATH WISH, I don't consider Spielberg to be taking the easy option with this remake, because he wouldn't be in his comfort zone (by contrast, CRYSTAL SKULL is the cinematic equivalent of a guy slumped in an armchair with his favourite music, a succession of huge spliffs and plenty of chocolate - he's having a wonderful time, but it's a pretty damn dull spectacle for the onlooker). In fact, I think it's a project that's likely to bring out the best in him. I'm curious to see how he thinks he can improve on the original (which is, in its way, a classic), and I also believe that the material will inspire and stretch him (in a way that something like INDIANA JONES 5 wouldn't).

I think Spielberg's OLDBOY will be a visual feast, with an absolutely mindblowingly awesome first half hour. It'll tail off slightly, while remaining very good indeed, and then it'll all peter out into a stupefyingly sentimental and sugary ending that appears to defeat the whole purpose of all that went before. It'll be 75% an utterly brilliant film.


I'd say you're right on the money with your take on the ending. Certainly, there'll be no tongue-tearing-out. I see Old Boy and the girl winning trips to Disneyland and recovering their lost innocence.

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 12:32 AM

The day has come!



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Posted 14 October 2009 - 01:54 AM

OH MY GOD

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 02:02 AM

Holy mother of mary that looks awesome!