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[HildebrandRarity]

Bah!

[Mr. Blofeld]

What?

[danielcraigisjamesbond007]

How could Bond crash his boat into Medrano's without getting extreme whiplash?


Bah.


How the hell did Bond manage to flip a bloody boat over?


Bah.


How the hell did Camille not have a bloodclot or massive internal bleeding when she got knocked out by an oncoming boat?


Bah.

For that matter, why did Bond even bother saving Camille? He crashed into Medrano's boat, in order to save this girl (that he's NEVER even met before). Yet, at the end of the boat chase, Bond just hands Camille to that guy and never looks back...Wow. Talk about insensitive...

[00Twelve]

Anybody seen the extra shot in the QOS boat flip climax that Hildy saw? I have definitely not seen that shot (nor have seen the DVD release).

Anyone??

Please??

[joshkhenderson]

BTW, does anyone know what the translation of writing on the side of Bond' boat in QoS? Thanks!

[DamnCoffee]

Bah!

You know you're not doing yourself any favours. You're just making yourself look more stupid.

How could Bond crash his boat into Medrano's without getting extreme whiplash?


Bah.


How the hell did Bond manage to flip a bloody boat over?


Bah.


How the hell did Camille not have a bloodclot or massive internal bleeding when she got knocked out by an oncoming boat?


Bah.

For that matter, why did Bond even bother saving Camille? He crashed into Medrano's boat, in order to save this girl (that he's NEVER even met before). Yet, at the end of the boat chase, Bond just hands Camille to that guy and never looks back...Wow. Talk about insensitive...

I haven't a clue really. I pressumed it was.... erm... Oh, er.. hang on. I actually don't have any idea why the hell he did that. Was it not because he just felt that he should save her? Because she was obviously in danger? If that is the case, then it was poorly executed, considering the whole Camille is kidnapped thing was played out so casually, that an onlooker, especially at where Bond was stationed, would merely think that a woman was getting on a boat. She didn't scream, she didn't struggle, anything.

[byline]

For that matter, why did Bond even bother saving Camille? He crashed into Medrano's boat, in order to save this girl (that he's NEVER even met before). Yet, at the end of the boat chase, Bond just hands Camille to that guy and never looks back...Wow. Talk about insensitive...

I haven't a clue really. I pressumed it was.... erm... Oh, er.. hang on. I actually don't have any idea why the hell he did that. Was it not because he just felt that he should save her? Because she was obviously in danger? If that is the case, then it was poorly executed, considering the whole Camille is kidnapped thing was played out so casually, that an onlooker, especially at where Bond was stationed, would merely think that a woman was getting on a boat. She didn't scream, she didn't struggle, anything.

True, but I think Bond is pretty good at reading body language, and he could see that what was going on between Camille and Greene on the dock wasn't a pleasant exchange. I would think that Bond is trained to spot subtle things about a person being taken captive, like the grabbing of Camille's arm, her facial expression which indicates that this is not a choice, etc.

I know, I know, it wasn't obvious. But I'm OK with that.

Edited by byline, 26 March 2009 - 04:12 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

I can see what you're saying, but It would be VERY difficult to spot someone's facial expression that far away.

But yes, I think we've found our answer.

[byline]

I can see what you're saying, but It would be VERY difficult to spot someone's facial expression that far away.

But yes, I think we've found our answer.

There's also another point to consider: After Bond got in the car with Camille, then opened the briefcase, it became clear that someone wanted her dead. I suspect that, between what he was seeing on the dock and what he'd learned in the car, Bond knew that Camille was in danger. Since Camille was obviously a connection between Slate and whoever wanted Slate to kill her, Bond surmised that it must be Greene, and that Greene was handing her over to an unhappy end. Bond felt compelled to save her before further pursuing Greene to figure out what he was up to.

Yes, there's a lot of reading into it, but I think that's part of what Bond is supposed to be able to do: connect the dots quickly and make a judgment call.

[Craig is 007]

How could Bond crash his boat into Medrano's without getting extreme whiplash?


Bah.


How the hell did Bond manage to flip a bloody boat over?


Bah.


How the hell did Camille not have a bloodclot or massive internal bleeding when she got knocked out by an oncoming boat?


Bah.

1. Did you notice that Bond flew from one end of his boat to the other? I'd say that's one hell of a whiplash.

2. Bond managed to flip the boat because he punctured it with a pretty large hook.

3. We don't actually see her face close enough after she is knocked out to tell if she is bleeding (which means one can't tell if she did or not).

BAH!

[DamnCoffee]

3. We don't actually see her face close enough after she is knocked out to tell if she is bleeding (which means one can't tell if she did or not).

BAH!

You can't see if someone has internal bleeding or not! BAHH!

[Hotwinds]

It took me several viewings to see the flaws of FRWL only after I had it on video tape and was able to scrutinize. Back in the day, it was just so cool and you did not get to see that kind of stuff so it is hard for me to compare to the others which were all good with LALD the very best for sure. However FRWL is the only one that has men catching on fire and not on purpose and having to jump in the water to save their hides. Top that!! I will admit that after 46 years it is a bit dated but they had no idea we would all be on computers talking about it like this.

QOS suffers from me not being able to tell just what the f..k is going on and not just that action sequence either. If they could only add a few seconds to each shot for the super duper Blu Ray edition they will come out with I would be happy.

[double o ego]

Damn, I say bah, the one time and then you guys go mad with it.
*sighs*

[danielcraigisjamesbond007]

BTW, does anyone know what the translation of writing on the side of Bond' boat in QoS? Thanks!

I have this translation from Babel Fish translation: Guard of stars.

[HildebrandRarity]

Bah!

You know you're not doing yourself any favours. You're just making yourself look more stupid.

I just had my best month ever in the markets and I don't care what anyone thinks about me on these forums.

In case you didn't get it, I was having fun.

Laterz.

[Colonel Moon]

How could Bond crash his boat into Medrano's without getting extreme whiplash?


Bah.


How the hell did Bond manage to flip a bloody boat over?


Bah.


How the hell did Camille not have a bloodclot or massive internal bleeding when she got knocked out by an oncoming boat?


Bah.

2. Bond managed to flip the boat because he punctured it with a pretty large hook.

Yes but that hook had to be tied to something, this is the question

[MrKidd]

Bah!

You know you're not doing yourself any favours. You're just making yourself look more stupid.

I just had my best month ever in the markets and I don't care what anyone thinks about me on these forums.

What has THAT got to do with anything??? You are SO compensating for something, Hilly - you're an internet cliche

Edited by MrKidd, 27 March 2009 - 09:45 PM.

[Royal Dalton]

2. Bond managed to flip the boat because he punctured it with a pretty large hook.

Yes but that hook had to be tied to something, this is the question

The grappling hook's the anchor from Bond's boat. Bond pulls the rope, the hook goes in, and the dinghy goes 'pop'

It's rubbishly edited, though. Hence the confusion.

[Craig is 007]

Oxygen under pressure inside the rib get's released, which causes the boat to flip backwards through the air. End of that discussion!

[byline]

Oxygen under pressure inside the rib get's released, which causes the boat to flip backwards through the air. End of that discussion!

OK, an explanation I can't recall having seen before that actually makes sense.

But . . . if the boat is riding on the back of Bond's boat, how does it manage to move ahead of Bond's boat, then sail back over Bond's head?

[00Twelve]

Oxygen under pressure inside the rib get's released, which causes the boat to flip backwards through the air. End of that discussion!

OK, an explanation I can't recall having seen before that actually makes sense.

But . . . if the boat is riding on the back of Bond's boat, how does it manage to move ahead of Bond's boat, then sail back over Bond's head?

It never goes over Bond's boat. It goes up and behind.

[gibraltarmonkey]

Yeah that makes sense as you hear the boat puncture

[byline]

Oxygen under pressure inside the rib get's released, which causes the boat to flip backwards through the air. End of that discussion!

OK, an explanation I can't recall having seen before that actually makes sense.

But . . . if the boat is riding on the back of Bond's boat, how does it manage to move ahead of Bond's boat, then sail back over Bond's head?

It never goes over Bond's boat. It goes up and behind.

Aaaahhhhhh . . . OK, I'll have to give it another look. Nine viewings in the theatre and another couple already on DVD, and I'd swear the boat goes sailing over Bond's head. But maybe it's because I think Bond makes a bit of a ducking motion as the boat flies up, so I'd assumed he was ducking from it going over his head.

[Colonel Moon]

Boat land on back Bond's boat. Its not hard to see this

[byline]

Boat land on back Bond's boat. Its not hard to see this

I know; I already said that. My comment has nothing to do with where the inflatable boat is when it first rides up on the back of Bond's boat. It's after that, when the hook lands in the rubber inflatable boat and then the rope goes taut, it has always looked to me like the inflatable went sailing from in front of Bond to behind him. That's the part I didn't understand.

[Colonel Moon]

Boat land on back Bond's boat. Its not hard to see this

I know; I already said that. My comment has nothing to do with where the inflatable boat is when it first rides up on the back of Bond's boat. It's after that, when the hook lands in the rubber inflatable boat and then the rope goes taut, it has always looked to me like the inflatable went sailing from in front of Bond to behind him. That's the part I didn't understand.

I dont understand that too. it must be a Bond magic. The hook is tied to rope. But rope must be tied to something to pulls henchmens boat

but im sure Forsters lovers will explain that somehow;)

Edited by Colonel Moon, 29 March 2009 - 09:25 AM.

[john.steed]

Favorites: The boat chases in FRWL and Live and Let Die.

I also enjoy those in Moonraker and TWINE.

My leaset favorite are: (1) TMWTGG because it feels to similar to the one in LALD; and (2) Quantum of Solace, both because I did not like the way it was filmed, an despite the arguement that Bond got a single name, it does not make sense to bring her along so he could try to get additional information from her. Further, why should he not think that Quantum could not find her and kill her? And that leads to my last problem, why was she still living later on in the film?

[joshkhenderson]

BTW, does anyone know what the translation of writing on the side of Bond' boat in QoS? Thanks!

I have this translation from Babel Fish translation: Guard of stars.

Thanks! I tried a Spanish dictionary that didn't give me any results.

[Mr Slate]

As I understand the scene the bad guys boat in QOS is a rigid inflatable boat. So when Bond punctures it with the hook thingy he has in his boat it flips off the back of Bonds boat something like blowing up a balloon, not fastening it and then letting go so it takes off and flies around the room?

[00Twelve]

I think we've come to a consensus--

1. Bond threw the hook onto the zodiac, yanked it, and punctured the boat.

Anyway, I was thinking how much I would have considered the TWINE chase a real classic if not for the Bondolian cruise through the streets. That part really sours it for me.