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#61 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 11:43 PM

how are there no pics or vids of the gunbarrel Hell half of the dark knight was on youtube by this point.

#62 Harmsway

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 12:24 AM

Agreed, removing the gun-barrel is crazy talk. Let's take out the theme and the main-titles whilst were at it... And why use the name James Bond in the next film, let's create a new character? :(

Well, to be fair, the things that make a James Bond movie aren't the gunbarrel or theme or main titles. That's all window dressing, but one could make an entirely worthy Bond film without 'em. That said, I don't really want to see 'em go (quite the opposite), I'm just saying that the argument that removing such things destroys the franchise doesn't hold water.

#63 Aces High

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 12:35 AM

how are there no pics or vids of the gunbarrel Hell half of the dark knight was on youtube by this point.

Looks like the precautions are working to stop the THIEVING [email protected] done,keep up the good work.

#64 MR. BOND 93

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 12:36 AM

Yea, I doubt the gunbarrel will be at the end everytime. It was just symbolic and necessary to put it at the end during this film.

... and I haven't even seen the movie yet.

#65 Royal Dalton

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 12:43 AM

how are there no pics or vids of the gunbarrel Hell half of the dark knight was on youtube by this point.

Looks like the precautions are working to stop the THIEVING [email protected] done,keep up the good work.

Yeah, they've done well to keep the film off the net so far. Mind you, it's out in China now. So, it probably won't be very long before it turns up online somewhere.

#66 Harmsway

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 01:08 AM

Yeah, they've done well to keep the film off the net so far. Mind you, it's out in China now. So, it probably won't be very long before it turns up online somewhere.

It's already online. Clips have begun to show up on youtube and elsewhere.

#67 quantumofsolace

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 01:35 AM

Yeah, they've done well to keep the film off the net so far. Mind you, it's out in China now. So, it probably won't be very long before it turns up online somewhere.

It's already online. Clips have begun to show up on youtube and elsewhere.


I wouldn't recommend watching it for the first or even second time in any way but on the Theatre screen .It won't have the same impact because the visuals are so beautiful. Wait and watch the official release or you'll do yourself a disservice

#68 tim partridge

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 01:45 AM

I think the whole MK12 thing was a misfire, from the grainy, Ocean's/KissKissBangBang wannabe title sequence (with the Flash animation preset font) through to the chav-striding, enormous and ugly gunbarrel by way of the confusing "graffitti" location titles. Along with the editing, action sequences, second unit, visual effects, poor opening and title song, MK12's contributions were a huge, insecure misfire for QOS.

Did MK12 do the "HitchHikers Guide to MI6" table as well?

#69 Harmsway

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 06:11 AM

I think the whole MK12 thing was a misfire, from the grainy, Ocean's/KissKissBangBang wannabe title sequence (with the Flash animation preset font) through to the chav-striding, enormous and ugly gunbarrel by way of the confusing "graffitti" location titles.

I haven't seen the film, but I've seen little bits and pieces of MK12's work on it, including some of the title cards. Of the few I saw, I thought they looked great. Really creative, and a nice touch for a Bond film.

The little bit of the title sequence represented here (from HMSS) made me keen to see more. I really dig what you deem the "flash animation preset font," and the style presented in these pics looks really stylish indeed:

Quantum of Solace Title Sequence Still #1
Quantum of Solace Title Sequence Still #2

#70 sharpshooter

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 06:14 AM

Agreed, I think the titles for QoS look really good.

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 06:36 AM

Agreed, I think the titles for QoS look really good.

Yeah. I'm not overwhelmed by those pictures (or the step-by-step description on HMSS), but it does seem that MK12 has done a classy job. Not up to the peak of Bond title sequences, but certainly far above the worst.

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:47 AM

Wait until you see them properly in the theatre before you start praising them. Those screen-shots are not really giving a fair representation, MK12's work on this movie was pretty terrible. I was all for the shake-up to see what new people could bring to the table, but it perfectly illustrates why the producers generally stick with the same team ordinarily.

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:48 AM

The first time i watched QoS, I didn't find time to really register everything about the gunbarrel. I must say, after my second viewing of the film, I think the Craig's gunbarrel is very good. All this talk about the walk being to fast, pah! He's not out for a bloody Sunday stroll. Craig's Bond has a purpose about everything he does, and the walk, the turn and the shot in the gunbarrel sequence merely demonstrates this perfectly. I though the blood effect was far better than the one use in CR.

My only gripe was that the actual gunabarrel lacked a little detail.

Oh, and there's a little surprise if you continue to watch the gunbarrel once it has turned red.

#74 JimmyBond

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:57 AM

I think the whole MK12 thing was a misfire, from the grainy, Ocean's/KissKissBangBang wannabe title sequence (with the Flash animation preset font) through to the chav-striding, enormous and ugly gunbarrel by way of the confusing "graffitti" location titles.

I haven't seen the film, but I've seen little bits and pieces of MK12's work on it, including some of the title cards. Of the few I saw, I thought they looked great. Really creative, and a nice touch for a Bond film.

The little bit of the title sequence represented here (from HMSS) made me keen to see more. I really dig what you deem the "flash animation preset font," and the style presented in these pics looks really stylish indeed:

Quantum of Solace Title Sequence Still #1
Quantum of Solace Title Sequence Still #2


They appear deliciously retro.

#75 sharpshooter

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 09:21 AM

They appear deliciously retro.

Yes, very much so. As with the location titles I have seen. It may all go pear shaped when I see everything in motion, but so far with these stills, so far so good.

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 10:19 AM

The little bit of the title sequence represented here (from HMSS) made me keen to see more. I really dig what you deem the "flash animation preset font," and the style presented in these pics looks really stylish indeed:

Quantum of Solace Title Sequence Still #1
Quantum of Solace Title Sequence Still #2

Aye, I like it. As much as I loved the way Kleinmann worked images related to the plot into his titles - the oil of TWINE, and the way he kept the story going in the DD titles (probably the best thing about that film) - I did think they got a little over-busy; case-in-point being the retro-coloured x-ray guns in TND and the over use of Etch-a-Sketch in CR (Bond shoots right when Arnold's credit comes up and all these loopy bright yellow lines shoot out; it looks weird as hell) and the silly end part where Craig vanishes in four parts. These ones look both minialist and moody, and I think they look fantastic, especially the firing of that gun.

#77 Nicolas Suszczyk

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:10 PM

THanks for the shots!

#78 The Dove

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:18 PM

OOOHH!! Very, very cool!! How anyone could call these titles rubbish is beyond me!! :( I agree with JimmyBond that these do have a retro feel to them.. Thunderball came to mind for me, perhaps it's the color. But while I do hope Daniel Kleinman will be back for future Bond films, I do like what MK12 have done here.. :)

#79 bondrules

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:20 PM

I dug both. Pretty cool.

The first is so cool, you don't even care AWTD is playing.

They look a lot better on the big screen.

Edited by bondrules, 07 November 2008 - 07:28 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2008 - 07:25 PM

heres the new gunbarrel in the last clip
http://www.bondmovies.com/board/showthread.php?t=17707

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 08:04 PM

Great.
Like i remembered, Craig keeps on walking after firing the gun.

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 08:11 PM

I just watched the gunbarrel on that Japanese clip again - it's awesome! In the cinema, the barrel itself did look quite plain, but seeing it now it's clear that there is plenty of light/dark shading which gives the surface a cool 'reflective' look.

Ace!

#83 JimmyBond

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 10:28 PM

Nothing wrong with the gunbarrel, looks fantastic to me.

#84 Mr. Somerset

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 10:59 PM

heres the new gunbarrel in the last clip
http://www.bondmovies.com/board/showthread.php?t=17707

I can't seem to play it. Must be gone already.....can't seem to link onto Youtube either!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There must be a "keep Mr. Somerset from seeing the new gunbarrel" conspiracy going on.

#85 AgentBentley

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 08:11 AM

I thought the title sequence and the title song were the only things about QoS that really sucked.
Luckily they were put together, so they didn't waste too much time.

#86 DamnCoffee

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 08:27 AM

The titles weren't that bad, they were actually very good. I really enjoyed all of MK12's work. :(

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 03:29 PM

I have to say that I love the work done by MK12, in my opinion it's incredible.

The reference to YOLT was awesome, and they definitely improved AWTD by deleting the weird parts of it.

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 03:44 PM

http://uk.youtube.co...feature=related


I think this gunbarrel design, with the FYEO music with Timothy Dalton is probably THE most perfect incarnation of a James Bond Gunbarrel.

It looks classic and it all fits so well, and Dalton does the walk and stance justice.


Take note for Bond 23...nice and relaxed, not rushed.

#89 David Pro

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Posted 08 November 2008 - 11:27 PM

I've found a pic of the Quantum of Solace gun barrel:

http://i19.photobuck...oenixmb/gun.jpg

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Posted 09 November 2008 - 12:02 AM

Just watched Quantum again & one penny that has dropped for me is in the titles.Was bugging me who Dan reminded me of...now I have it..Edward Woodward circa 1969 in his Callan days.
I wonder if he was ever up for the 007 gig after Connery/Lazenby?