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[Double or Die]

I loved Quantum of Solace and give it 4 stars, but I knock it down largly (basically the whole star) because I was so disapionted with the title sequence. I noticed that they had missed the gun barrel sequence when the music started up and then I saw him there with the gun, and thought 'oh it's alright he's gonna do it now', then the bullet was just flying around and i was thinking 'yeah well in a minute the camera will turn so that we see the front of the bullet, and it'll go down the gun barrel', but it refused to happen. The rest of the opening sequence not as good as it could have been, at least it had the girls, a subject largely missed out in the casino royale titles. Then it returned to Bond with the gun, which just didn't work and ruined it completely. Fortunatly, the gun barrel sequence was saved at the end, and it looks like that's where they're gonna put it in future.

[sharpshooter]

I highly doubt the gunbarrel will be at the end of all Bond films from now on.

[Leon]

The gunbarrel was at the end to signify the fact this film is running on directly from Casino Royale and the epilogue ending and gb cap it off. I highly doubt they will do anything other than have it at the start of the films to come now (I would be very dissapointed if they did).

I thought the title sequence was brilliant and really well done, the way the naked women emerge in it looks very cool and I enjoyed seeing a PPK being fired with the slide actually working for once . It makes the song better also.

[thecasinoroyale]

I agree, with Leon, the opening titles felt very 60s in a way, and it worked really well with the song. I loved the images of Daniel Craig as Bond, and the naked girls appearing. It was all very well done and very simple.

Plus, also big thumbs up to the return of the PPK packing a punch!


And the gunbarrel fit in realllllly well, regarding the final scene of the film, it was like a closure to previous events and a new opening to the focused mind of our new James Bond which can open up every film.

[terminus]

TBH, I hated the gun barrel at the end of the movie. It just felt like it was tagged on - with no real reason for it to be there. It even, dare I say it, ruinted the atmosphere of the closing moments and the necklace in the snow.

At least there was some sense in CR about why the gun barrel had been moved.

I see no reason why it couldn't have been at the beginning of the film, throwing us into the car chase.

[sharpshooter]

Can anyone explain the stance that Craig adopts in this gunbarrel? Is it like anything else we have seen from the other Bond actors?

[Leon]

TBH, I hated the gun barrel at the end of the movie. It just felt like it was tagged on - with no real reason for it to be there. It even, dare I say it, ruinted the atmosphere of the closing moments and the necklace in the snow.

At least there was some sense in CR about why the gun barrel had been moved.

I see no reason why it couldn't have been at the beginning of the film, throwing us into the car chase.

I completely dissagree, and I was one of the people who weren't happy when I first heard about it.

It gave a very strong and powerful close the the film and only added to the emotional strength of that last scene because it wasn't a sad scene, it was Bond letting go of the past and moving foreward as 007. It also, as I said, signifies the fact that QoS runs on from CR and therefore is a good end-cap to the saga.

Can anyone explain the stance that Craig adopts in this gunbarrel? Is it like anything else we have seen from the other Bond actors?

Not really, I remember noticing that it was fairly unique. He really aims the gun foreward using his body somewhat and with one hand (as opposed to just pointing it). Moore does this only with two hands, and probably Dalton's is closest only he didn't lower himself like Dalton does.

[double o ego]

Can anyone explain the stance that Craig adopts in this gunbarrel? Is it like anything else we have seen from the other Bond actors?

Just think pierce brosnan but it's daniel craig, walking like he's in a hurry. As for the titles, it sort of reminded me of goldfinger. It had that grainy tinge to it. Funnily enough, the TS and Fergie's song in QoS the game worked better than the movie's own, which is kind of annoying because if a computer game can make it work, why the hell can't the movie?

[Leon]

Can anyone explain the stance that Craig adopts in this gunbarrel? Is it like anything else we have seen from the other Bond actors?

Just think pierce brosnan but it's daniel craig, walking like he's in a hurry.

Eh? His stance is nothing like Pierce Brosnan's. Brosnan was very square-on and bolt upright. Craig has his body slightly foreward into his aiming arm with his head down slightly.

As for the titles, it sort of reminded me of goldfinger. It had that grainy tinge to it.

That's a very missleading comment, I think I can understand what you're trying to say but the title sequence is nothing at all like Goldfinger's. The grainyness of Goldfinger's titles comes from the projection of images onto the gold girl. This title sequence uses it all over as a digital stylistic effect that is quite different to a projected image and beyond that there's absolutely no connection with the GF titles whatsoever.

[Major Tallon]

TBH, I hated the gun barrel at the end of the movie. It just felt like it was tagged on - with no real reason for it to be there. It even, dare I say it, ruinted the atmosphere of the closing moments and the necklace in the snow.

At least there was some sense in CR about why the gun barrel had been moved.

I see no reason why it couldn't have been at the beginning of the film, throwing us into the car chase.

Back when Casino Royale was announced as a "Bond begins" film, someone on here posted the idea of saving the gunbarrel to the end of the film, to mark the transition from the inexperienced Bond to the full-fledged Double 0 operative that he was to be from that point on.

As I recall, reaction at the time was fairly positive. It's interesting to see that the producers appear to have done exactly what some of the group proposed.

I don't suppose CBn qualifies for an "Additional story material by" writing credit?

[Mr. Blofeld]

Dammit, I can't believe what I'm missing...

[007.5]

I actually preferred the gunbarrel at the end. It was like Craig "sealing the deal" as Bond, so to speak. When the gunbarrel started the cinema erupted in applause. It was worth waiting for.

[pgram]

Quite honestly, I believe this discussion should be in the Spoilers subforum, for, even if it has nothing to do with the plot itself, it is an important tidbit of info that I wouldn't want to know before watching the film (I managed to stay almost spoiler free this time...)

The gunbarrel was, I believe, the worst gunbarrel I 've seen in any bond film. From all points of view. Craig looked as if he was in a hurry, if not embarrassed, the graphics were bad. And, if I remember correctly, he kept on walking after firing the gun.

Why was it in the end of the film? I suppose what's mentioned earlier is correct: to show that, now that Bond's left the past behind, he transforms into the man we know and love... Great... When did I hear this before?... Oh, yes, when Arnold reconstructed the bond theme at the end of CR. And Craig said the line... He had become the Bond we know and love... Well, not quite... He left it for QoS. In a way, it was the equivalent of: the name 's bond, james bond, from CR. Something to leave the audiences on a high note. Unlike in CR it didn't work for me...

So, will the gunbarrel be at the beginning of bond 23? Presumably yes. Unless they find new unfinished business with Bond psychology, and Bond has to go to a shrink, to become the man we know and love, and we have to attend the sessions. Remember, mr White is still on the loose...

Edited by pgram, 01 November 2008 - 07:55 PM.

[Harry Fawkes]

Guys please try and refrain divulging points about the film that may spoil the bloody film for the rest of us unlucky bastards who can only see the film next week. Review the film by all means but at least if you are going to reveal hot details put a ing spoiler tab over it! Or better still post it in the spoiler section. Thanks .

[DamnCoffee]

Can anyone explain the stance that Craig adopts in this gunbarrel? Is it like anything else we have seen from the other Bond actors?

The best way I would decribe it is how Moore stood in The Spy Who Loved Me teaser trailer. It's alot better than Brosnans, ALOT better.

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[Harry Fawkes]

OMG The bloody wait is ing my system up. I am gonna ing blow up now! Seven days to go. You lucky ***&*)(*&%&&((1

[bondrules]

so 2 hands then?

[DamnCoffee]

so 2 hands then?

From what I recall, yes. I could be wrong, I was so blinded by inconsolable love at the time.

[double o ego]

Can anyone explain the stance that Craig adopts in this gunbarrel? Is it like anything else we have seen from the other Bond actors?

Just think pierce brosnan but it's daniel craig, walking like he's in a hurry.

Eh? His stance is nothing like Pierce Brosnan's. Brosnan was very square-on and bolt upright. Craig has his body slightly foreward into his aiming arm with his head down slightly.

As for the titles, it sort of reminded me of goldfinger. It had that grainy tinge to it.

That's a very missleading comment, I think I can understand what you're trying to say but the title sequence is nothing at all like Goldfinger's. The grainyness of Goldfinger's titles comes from the projection of images onto the gold girl. This title sequence uses it all over as a digital stylistic effect that is quite different to a projected image and beyond that there's absolutely no connection with the GF titles whatsoever.

Pedantic much?

With regards to the gunbarrel being similar to Brosnan's I was talking about the overall look and familiarity NOT how far foward Craig was hunched over. The way I described it was fine. It's similar in look to Brosnan's but Craig's walking a bit fast.

As for GF reference, the tinge I was talking about was the orangy colouring. Of course it's nothing like GF's in terms of design, far from it but like I said, it reminded ME of GF not that it was exactly like it.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'm suprised neither is on youtube.

[mcsearg]

Dammit, I can't believe what I'm missing...

Join the club. All of us here in the States is waiting in anticipation. Reading the reviews and opinions from the UK just makes it worse...

[Captain Tightpants]

And all of us Down Under have to wait even longer, so no complaining.

[EyesOnly]

It's similar in look to Brosnan's but Craig's walking a bit fast.

Fast as in Roger Moore fast in LALD and TMWTGG?

[Harmsway]

It's similar in look to Brosnan's but Craig's walking a bit fast.

Fast as in Roger Moore fast in LALD and TMWTGG?

Apparently a lot faster. Apparently this is by far the quickest gunbarrel yet (which intrigues me, to be honest). I'm curious to see how it looks... some folks think it's "traditional," while others think it's not. Like the rest of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, it seems that it divides the fanbase.

[EyesOnly]

It's similar in look to Brosnan's but Craig's walking a bit fast.

Fast as in Roger Moore fast in LALD and TMWTGG?

Apparently a lot faster. Apparently this is by far the quickest gunbarrel yet (which intrigues me, to be honest). I'm curious to see how it looks... some folks think it's "traditional," while others think it's not. Like the rest of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, it seems that it divides the fanbase.

Very interesting. I thought Roger Moore's first attempt was rather fast paced...any faster i'd consider it a light jog. Can't wait to see it.

[sharpshooter]

Apparently this is by far the quickest gunbarrel yet

On top of that, Mharkin007 said it looks 'zoomed in'. Most interesting.

[Glockenspiel]

Moreover, this GB is awful!
Did you notice how badly made it is?
Fire MK12 and bring us back Daniel Kleinman.

TBH, I hated the gun barrel at the end of the movie. It just felt like it was tagged on - with no real reason for it to be there. It even, dare I say it, ruinted the atmosphere of the closing moments and the necklace in the snow.

At least there was some sense in CR about why the gun barrel had been moved.

I see no reason why it couldn't have been at the beginning of the film, throwing us into the car chase.

[Col. Sun]

The walk is fast, as is his turn; which is very strong. He's much more animated than Brosnan as if he really means to kill whoever he shooting at rathe than doing a iconic pose. His left arm flies out a bit to balance his fast turn, a little like Connery but without bending low.

I think the fast walk works very well because it stops the scene looking stagey; which is the danger with it because it's so stylised and deliberately unreal in concept.

It has the pace and punch of the first Thunderball, YOLT, Connery GB's and Lazenby's GB. The best one since those days.

The GB design is a mix of the classic original, but with more 3D depth and the blood is very similar to what we saw in the CR GB.

I liked it a lot and think it will work very well at the start of the next film. Of course they may use a different take of Craig next time. This GB works very well for the end of the film, being fast and hitting hard because the (average) audience are not expecting it.

[DamnCoffee]

On top of that, Mharkin007 said it looks 'zoomed in'. Most interesting.

Yeah. I just think that you cannot see enough of the gunbarrel. Maybe it was just my cinema screen. Could anyone else see the design clearly?

[Safari Suit]

I did think the gunbarrel looked terrible and it did deflate the great final shot a bit. But it's only a minor thing at the end of the day.