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[Invincible1958]

From a critics perspective I can see why TDK would get better reviews but from audience experiance QoS is superior.

Other films in general... it's great!

So you would say, QOS is an audience pleaser for the masses?!

[Kristian]

Kit 22, thanks for the fab post. Can you please clear up one more thing for us?

What is all this hoopla about Fields' real name that she won't reveal because it is embarassing, but is revealed in the closing credits. What is her name? Is it what I think it is?

Please advise, babe... thanks....

[DamnCoffee]

Yes. I would also love to hear her first name.

Oh, and the Gunbarrel Music, is it a dark variation of the Bond theme?

[eddychaput]

It's great to hear some positive reviews. I was starting to have some doubts.

Quick question though: What did the scene in which Bond and a villain crash through a glass roof look like on the big screen? In the trailer, which I've only seen on the net, it looked a little CG for my tastes.

[bondrules]

Kit 22, thanks for your review, which I find the most objective and thorough out of all that have been posted in many online magazines so far....thanks for replying also to our inquiries...thanks again

[supernova]

Kit 22 thanks for posting so much information on the movie so quickly. Would you please mention what the atmosphere in the theatre was like? What about the punters? Did they like the movie? Did you hear many comments from others in the cinema? Was it a hit with the regular folk? And How does it end? -- (you can put it under a spoiler button).

Not that interested in English 'professional' critics - would expect them to do some slapping after their good reviews for Casino Royale. BUT Definitely interested to read foreign 'professional' reviewers to get a more impartial view.

[Loomis]

More than 1,500 people at yesterday's screening, apparently.

http://news.sky.com/...200810315123521

[DamnCoffee]

WILL YOU SHUT UP ABOUT THE FRIGGING GUNBARREL!

[ForMathis]

WILL YOU SHUT UP ABOUT THE FRIGGING GUNBARREL!

Please don't use all caps its is annoying and childish. I'm sorry that not everyone agrees with you but that is life. I respect your opinion so the least you could do is show me the same and not blast at me like some IMDB troll with a broken caps lock key. We are all fans here no need to be rude Mr. Mharkin007.

[DamnCoffee]

Look, It's starting to get really annoying now, you're starting to bring the gunbarrel into every single post you make. Just get over it, not you, nor anyone else can change it... just get over it. Like we all got over Die Another Day.

[bondrules]

I agree, who cares if the gunbarrel shows up at the end...it doesn't matter to me whatsoever....well, as long as it doesn't become a habit....it's different and original to do it once, so it's no biggie

Edited by bondrules, 18 October 2008 - 08:23 PM.

[ForMathis]

Look, It's starting to get really annoying now, you're starting to bring the gunbarrel into every single post you make. Just get over it, not you, nor anyone else can change it... just get over it. Like we all got over Die Another Day.

If I feel its relevant to the topic at hand I can bring it up, its not like I'm going into the TV spot thread and randomly saying it. Anytime i've mentioned it, it has in my opinion been topic accurate. For instance this is the thread which first revealed the placement of the Gun-Barrel.

If you don't like my comments why comment on them? And when you do why cant you do it in a civilized respectful manor (as opposed to this all caps "I am superior becuase I love it" attitude).

[doubler83]

Craig should moonwalk during the gunbarrel. Then give a high-pitched "yelp" at the end.

[ForMathis]

I agree, who cares if the gunbarrel shows up at the end...it doesn't matter to me whatsoever....well, as long as it doesn't become a habit....it's different and original to do it once, so it's no biggie

I do. I've seen people complain about things that they didn't like that I thought was "no big deal" and not once was I rude to them about it.

Just becuase something is "different" and "unique" doesn't means its good. My ,main complaint about this was that it was clearly done 'just to be different' which in my opinion is pathetic.

And there are many posters on here who agree with me, its just when you make a post saying you love it they don't jump in with some annoying all-caps post in the condescending nature that people with your view of the spectrum tend to.

[Kristian]

Craig should moonwalk during the gunbarrel. Then give a high-pitched "yelp" at the end.

LOFL... I would just flippin' DIE LAUGHING if that happened. Maybe have him do some gangsta hand gestures too.... I mean, hell, they already called him a "playa" in the song. And I know they're not referring to a beach in Spanish.

Edited by Kristian, 18 October 2008 - 08:36 PM.

[Harmsway]

More than 1,500 people at yesterday's screening, apparently.

http://news.sky.com/...200810315123521

Whoa.

[00Twelve]

Just becuase something is "different" and "unique" doesn't means its good. My main complaint about this was that it was clearly done 'just to be different' which in my opinion is pathetic.

On the other hand, there are many things that the Bond movies have done over the years which were clearly done "just to be the same" that I find to be equally pathetic.

[doubler83]

Craig should moonwalk during the gunbarrel. Then give a high-pitched "yelp" at the end.

LOFL... I would just flippin' DIE LAUGHING if that happened. Maybe have him do some gangsta hand gestures too.... I mean, hell, they already called him a "playa" in the song. And I know they're not referring to a beach in Spanish.

In Bond 23 I want Leiter to say to Bond "yo, homie". Let's just raperize Bond.

[ForMathis]

Just becuase something is "different" and "unique" doesn't means its good. My main complaint about this was that it was clearly done 'just to be different' which in my opinion is pathetic.

On the other hand, there are many things that the Bond movies have done over the years which were clearly done "just to be the same" that I find to be equally pathetic.

I like to think that those elements have been taken out of Bond with CR and QoS, the gun barrel was not one of them.

There is an old proverb that goes something like this... "There are two kinds of fools, one says, 'This is old, therefore it is good'; the other says, 'This is new, therefore it is better.'"

In my opinion this has been done just to be "different" and that annoys me.

In Mharkin007's opinion this is "new" and "different" so it is better and anyone who disagrees with him should just "Shut the up". We may both be fools but at least I'm not an jerk.

Edited by ForMathis, 18 October 2008 - 08:50 PM.

[Kristian]

Just becuase something is "different" and "unique" doesn't means its good. My main complaint about this was that it was clearly done 'just to be different' which in my opinion is pathetic.

On the other hand, there are many things that the Bond movies have done over the years which were clearly done "just to be the same" that I find to be equally pathetic.

I like to think that those elements have been taken out of Bond with CR and QoS, the gun barrel was not one of them.

There is an old proverb that goes something like this... "There are two kinds of fools, one says, 'This is old, therefore it is good'; the other says, 'This is new, therefore it is better.'"

In my opinion this has been done just to be "different" and that annoys me.

In Mharkin007's opinion this is "new" and "different" so it is better and anyone who disagrees with him should just "Shut the up". We may both be fools but at least I'm not an jerk.

FIGHT!!!! FIGHT!!!! FIGHT!!!!

[Harmsway]

I don't think it's a cool idea because just because it's new. I think it's a cool idea because of how it could contribute to the cinematic experience in a positive way.

[DamnCoffee]

ForMathis, I'm gonna back down. I'm sorry for the way I over reacted. You have as much right as I do to state your opinions on the movie. It just got me a little annoyed thats all. I apologise.

[Kristian]

ForMathis, I'm gonna back down. I'm sorry for the way I over reacted. You have as much right as I do to state your opinions on the movie. It just got me a little annoyed thats all. I apologise.

Oh, you pussies... I'm gonna stir up trouble elsewhere....

[kitt22]

Kit 22, thanks for the fab post. Can you please clear up one more thing for us?

What is all this hoopla about Fields' real name that she won't reveal because it is embarassing, but is revealed in the closing credits. What is her name? Is it what I think it is?

Please advise, babe... thanks....

Even though I sat through all the credits I somehow missed her credit! But in one scene...

Spoiler

Bond says something like: So can I know your first name now?
Field: No I'm Fields, just Fields.

It's great to hear some positive reviews. I was starting to have some doubts.

Quick question though: What did the scene in which Bond and a villain crash through a glass roof look like on the big screen? In the trailer, which I've only seen on the net, it looked a little CG for my tastes.

It looked really good on the big screen- I noticed a united sudden intake of breath from the audience and then a little chuckle when they both managed to grap onto the scaffolding.

Edited by kitt22, 18 October 2008 - 10:13 PM.

[kitt22]

Kit 22 thanks for posting so much information on the movie so quickly. Would you please mention what the atmosphere in the theatre was like? What about the punters? Did they like the movie? Did you hear many comments from others in the cinema? Was it a hit with the regular folk? And How does it end? -- (you can put it under a spoiler button).

Not that interested in English 'professional' critics - would expect them to do some slapping after their good reviews for Casino Royale. BUT Definitely interested to read foreign 'professional' reviewers to get a more impartial view.

The ending well... QUITE A BIG SPOILR HERE

Spoiler

Bond travels to Russia to hunt down Vesper's Algerian boy friend. He finds him- now with a new woman- and shows him Vesper's necklace. In the trailer it is the scene with the line "I have some unfinished business". You think he is about to shoot him but he let's him live... quick chat with M in the snow and then roll gunbarrel and end credits.

The reaction seemed good- especially for a British audience who are characteristically quite reserved in our cinema reactions (well compared to our American friends ).

Lots of wincing – especially when Bond implants a pair of scissors in an enemy's leg! And laughter when there should be. As soon as the MGM lion began to play at the start there was applause and there was applause at the end too.

I overheard some people during the performance nearby saying things like “I didn’t really understand that part.” Also heard a “Bloody hell Craig is a good Bond” comment towards the end. On the way out I heard two female American journalists having an amusing conversation. It went something like: “There wasn’t enough naked Daniel!” “Yeah where were those blue swim shorts!” “All we got was a topless shot?!” It was good spirited and very funny.

Edited by kitt22, 18 October 2008 - 10:22 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

That has REALLY, REALLY! made me feel a whole lot better, thank you my friend.

[JimmyBond]

I got a question for you: How does the films segue into the titles? Ever since the Brosnan films they've made it a point to transition inot the titles in some creative way, it's alway something I enjoy seeing.

[double o ego]

The gunbarrel...

Spoiler

From memory this is how it went. Ending shot of the film very slowly fades to black. As it does the Bond theme slowly begins. Then white dots appear on the screen and pass across the screen and then Bond walks on in colour (apposed to CR B&W) and shoots. The blood was very similar to that in CR but with less 3D effect. It ran down the screen very fast. The barrel itself was quite simular in dessign to the GE-DAD one but not the same. There was no drooping of the gunbarrel it just cut to the credits after that! Hope that helps.

I can live with this. It makes perfect sense given the context of the film as the end of Bond's origin and thus gives birth to traditional Bond. Bold move but at the same time very effective and productive, assuming your no BS'ing.

[supernova]

Thanks Kit 22 for all your upbeat comments about QoS -- sounds like you had a really good time at the showing. Thanks also for the juicy spoilers - now I can wait peacefully till I get to watch the movie myself. How many times did you see Casino Royale? And do you plan on seeing QoS again?

Edited by supernova, 19 October 2008 - 11:36 AM.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Spoiler

It is a good traditional gun barrel. Dots, theme, Bond in tux, walk across the screen - the works! :-)

That is my quantum of solace