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[Colonel Moon]

So we are back on track, next movie will be something like Twine and fourth Dad

[EyesOnly]

I guess I just find it an interesting choice in the same way that I appreciate how the title for BATMAN BEGINS/THE DARK KNIGHT only appears right before the end credits. It's a great way to send you out of the film, and if the scene right before it really leads into it the way I'm hoping it does, than it should be a really nice moment.

How are you hoping it ends, Hamsway?

[Vauxhall]

Extremely intrigued that the gunbarrel is placed where it is... I'm sure there must be a very good reason but not a clue what!

[sharpshooter]

I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would like to know what style this gunbarrel is. In the vein of the CR design with realistic blood drip, for example, and what music arrangement is used. I'm thinking the music for the gunbarrel will be the lead in to the end credits Bond theme.

[CamExam]

I knew this movie wasnt going to be mindblowing. And I didnt expect it to be either

[Matt_13]

I still think it's going to be something special, I can tell I'm going to like it.

[sharpshooter]

I'll love it. It's going to be one wild, adrenaline filled ride. The shorter run time will help it, I think.

[Royal Dalton]

Extremely intrigued that the gunbarrel is placed where it is... I'm sure there must be a very good reason but not a clue what!

I would imagine it's been put there because by the end of this story arc he's become 'James Bond'.

[Mister E]

If you will indulge me in another question: how much bond theme is there in the film?

Very limited. Little hints throughout with a full play out over the closing credits.

Thank gawd! You don't need the full Bond Theme anyway.

Entirely agreed.

Boy Harms, we sure are agreeing a lot tonight. I gotta say I agree her The Bond theme should only show up at a truly special moment, and hey, if we're not going to here the full thing till the end I say good for them, that's how it was done in the 60s, and that's how it should be done now.

Best news I have heard about the score thus far.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Extremely intrigued that the gunbarrel is placed where it is... I'm sure there must be a very good reason but not a clue what!

I would imagine it's been put there because by the end of this story arc he's become 'James Bond'.

Agreed

[trevanian]

Extremely intrigued that the gunbarrel is placed where it is... I'm sure there must be a very good reason but not a clue what!

I would imagine it's been put there because by the end of this story arc he's become 'James Bond'.

Wasn't that what everybody said about the end of CR, when he is in the pinstripe 3-piece saying TheLine? How many times is he going to grow up to be james bond?

[Royal Dalton]

This'll be the last time, hopefully.

[Vauxhall]

If the gunbarrel at the end signifies him becoming "James Bond", then I imagine the IMDB review ending is certainly wrong then. Good news.

[sharpshooter]

If the gunbarrel at the end signifies him becoming "James Bond", then I imagine the IMDB review ending is certainly wrong then. Good news.

Yep, this is the final nail in the coffin.

[Mister E]

If the gunbarrel at the end signifies him becoming "James Bond", then I imagine the IMDB review ending is certainly wrong then. Good news.

Yep, this is the final nail in the coffin.

IMDB review:

2008-2008

Rest in Pieces.

[bondrules]

IMDB review = manure

[MR. BOND 93]

I still don't understand why people believe anything that comes from IMDB.

[bondrules]

I actually want to read some spoilers....real spoilers...does camille die? what about white or mathis? is fields really mathis's wife or not? do we see the head of quantum?

Edited by bondrules, 18 October 2008 - 05:04 AM.

[00Twelve]

Extremely intrigued that the gunbarrel is placed where it is... I'm sure there must be a very good reason but not a clue what!

I would imagine it's been put there because by the end of this story arc he's become 'James Bond'.

I would imagine that the beginning of Bond 23 (and, of course, all Bond films afterward) is going to relate to the end of QOS in the same way that the beginning of QOS relates to the end of CR.

There's something to be said for the final image of an origin story forming the beginning image of subsequent stories. Remember, QOS is the other half of the story begun in CR. They're one origin story, [in Kenobi voice] "from a certain point of view."

[Captain Tightpants]

I'm not liking what's in that first spoiler-tag one bit.

I think you'll find it's a very deliberate move to show the evolution of Bond.

Spoiler

Bond didn't introduce himself until the end of Casino Royale to show that he was developing a character and becoming the agent that we know and love. The gunbarrel's placement at the end of the film achieves the same end: Bond is continuing to evolve into Double-Oh Seven.

Of course, you don't have to like it though. But not liking isn't going to change anything about it.

[bondrules]

so who is the head of Quantum, Yusef??

http://www.almeida.c...Kassianides.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/...39872/nm1581285

Spoiler

You hear the words and you think, Ernst Stavro Blofeld, you think Auric Goldfinger, and you even think Dr Kananga and Scaramanga. To this noble list we will soon be adding, er, Yusef. Or at least we will when we know exactly what he does; how he deals with Bond; and how he shapes the worldview of Quantum of Solace, the new and highly anticipated movie from the rebooted franchise of Bond reborn, Daniel Craig..........Yusef is so pivotal to the new Bond story that Kassianides has already been signed on for the follow-up Bond

Now, I have no idea, but from that read, it sounds like Yusef is the HEAD of Quantum

Edited by bondrules, 18 October 2008 - 06:32 AM.

[Captain Tightpants]

No, I think it's a case of Yusuf's role being left ambiguous for the time being.

[Vauxhall]

I actually want to read some spoilers....real spoilers...does camille die? what about white or mathis? is fields really mathis's wife or not? do we see the head of quantum?

Where did the idea that Fields is Mathis' wife come from?!! She's not.

[DamnCoffee]

Fields is not Mathis' wife! They must be going through a rough patch as she states to him... "Sorry I don't know who you are!" at the airport.

[kitt22]

I actually want to read some spoilers....real spoilers...does camille die? what about white or mathis? is fields really mathis's wife or not? do we see the head of quantum?

There you go...

Spoiler

No she does not...you'll have to ask someone else about White and Mathis (I don't want to soil it that much)...no she is not his wife...and no we don't but may do in a future film

I, and I'm sure a lot of others, would like to know what style this gunbarrel is. In the vein of the CR design with realistic blood drip, for example, and what music arrangement is used. I'm thinking the music for the gunbarrel will be the lead in to the end credits Bond theme.

The gunbarrel...

Spoiler

From memory this is how it went. Ending shot of the film very slowly fades to black. As it does the Bond theme slowly begins. Then white dots appear on the screen and pass across the screen and then Bond walks on in colour (apposed to CR B&W) and shoots. The blood was very similar to that in CR but with less 3D effect. It ran down the screen very fast. The barrel itself was quite simular in dessign to the GE-DAD one but not the same. There was no drooping of the gunbarrel it just cut to the credits after that! Hope that helps.

Edited by kitt22, 18 October 2008 - 04:55 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Awesome!

What about the gunbarrel music, was it a dark version of the Bond theme?

[Kristian]

IMDB review = manure

YOLT = manure-for-brains

[kitt22]

kitt22,

Cheers for the review. Early days, I know, but how do you think QoS compares to CR? Which do you prefer? Also, where would you rank QoS A among the Bond films, B against other high profile franchise releases e.g. Bourne and THE DARK KNIGHT, and C against, uh, "films in general"?

Hi Loomis,

Well CR and QoS are very different films. In context CR now feels like Bond's testing first mission- he makes misstakes and pays for them. In QoS he has matured and is out for revenge. QoS is a real adreniline reide where CR was a much calmer more considered film. But again this change reflects Bond's character and I don't think it would have been right to have another CR.

Amoung other Bond films is a tough one because it feels like it is real part of the Daniel Craig series so is hard to place in the entire franchise. I would say it is without doubt in my top ten but possibly not in my top five.

I much prefered it to Bourne- and I do like te Bourne films- but I can see how some would make the connection between them. That is not because QoS feels like a Bourne film- it does not- but because of the far more action. Against The Dark Knight is hard because I felt that film had many flaws nd also the two films are so different but I would say they are on a par. From a critics perspective I can see why TDK would get better reviews but from audience experiance QoS is superior.

Other films in general... it's great!

[coco1997]

Kitt, I know you probably don't remember this too specifically, but can you remember what the gunbarrel music was like?

[DamnCoffee]

Sounds brilliant Kitt22.

God the movie is gonna be awesome!