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[The Dove]

Cheers Mharkin!! Looks great!!

Oooh I wonder if this video will end up on the official Bond site...its got the Quantum of Solace logo at the end just like all the other blogs..

[DamnCoffee]

Maybe we got a blog a week in advance.

[TQB]

it sounds great!

[The Dove]

Just listen to the short clips of Arnold's score and then it goes into White / Keys's Another Way To Die...IT WORKS!!

[Harmsway]

Here it is:
http://vids.myspace....nelID=119278319

Oh, that video has more footage. I actually really like the bit of score we hear there... It has a distinctly different sound than anything Arnold's done before for Bond.

And the shots of the chase look excellent.

[Marketto007]

Oh, the next week's blog indeed.

xxx

[double o ego]

That myspace link was shweet. Hearing more of the bond theme was great. Also, Arnold seems to be bringing his A-game to this movie. I don't know what happened to him during the Brosnan era but he's uppin the levs for the craig era that's for sure.

[Marketto007]

I've put it on Youtube.

http://br.youtube.co..._8tCDs9Y&fmt=18

xxx

[Professor Dent]

Sounds really good. Nothing better than to see a full orchestra playing the Bond theme. Almost brings a tear to my eye.

Thanks for the link, Matt.

[Royal Dalton]

Quite Herrmannesque.

[sharpshooter]

Good stuff. The chase music sounds perfect - good stuff so far, Arnold.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

Video Report: David Arnold Scoring 'Quantum of Solace'

Get your first listen of the score for the 22nd James Bond film

[Mister E]

I don't want to get my hopes too high but it sounds like the score will actually make up for the song.

[The Dove]

Actually Mister E, I think the score will add to the title song in a complimentary manner which to me at least after watching the short clip here, makes the title make a lot more sense..

[Mister E]

Actually Mister E, I think the score will add to the title song in a complimentary manner which to me at least after watching the short clip here, makes the title make a lot more sense..

I hope it doesn't do that, I really don't. I don't want the score just to compliment a mediocre song.

[00Twelve]

It's entirely possible that that recording of the Bond theme comes from the CR sessions- I don't think we can really glean too much from this.

Doubt it, since the rest of the footage of Arnold composing is from his work for QUANTUM OF SOLACE. Furthermore, I believe the sound of the Bond theme is subtly different here than the one for CASINO ROYALE.

Yes, I also think that this is a new recording, but I think that it's basically the same arrangement. And I'm entirely glad about it. I've always thought that the Bond theme sounds its best when played in its classic arrangement (size of orchestra notwithstanding). No improvement necessary.

What part of that video gives you the impression that the bond theme only plays at the end of QOS?

It's all inference. The cue the orchestra is playing entitled is "Bond theme," which leads me to believe that it's a concert rendition of the theme. It also sounds like a straight-up concert piece, as well. So that leads me to believe it's an end credits piece more than anything else. I have a hard time imagining a straight-up concert version of the Bond theme playing during a section of the film, but I will concede that it's possible.

I guess the case could be made that it was making a statement about how Bond is destined to continue living the same loveless life as a blunt instrument of her majesty's secret service... but I still would have preferred a subtler rendition.

Eh, I still don't think it works even if one makes that arrangement. To make a point like that, it would have needed to be a darker, more melancholy take on the theme. What we get is big, swinging 60s Bond, with a really jarring transition (if the transition had been less bold, I think it would have worked better).

I've heard another poster (DNS?) suggest that the theme is be as bold as it is and as jarring as it is for a very deliberate purpose. It's as if to say, "Here's your hero's theme in all its glory. This is the awful cost he had to bear so that you could be satisfied that "James Bond will return".

Heard in that context, the theme has since become rather chilling to me. It's probably my second favorite arrangement after the classic one, but here it manages to actually be disturbing. Jarring us back to the knowledge that James Bond will continue on as 007, we almost wish it weren't so.

Quite Herrmannesque.

Now that's the highest praise I've heard yet.

In that video, is it me, or is the AWTD arrangement better balanced? It's the first time I think I've actually liked hearing it. It sounded a lot more like a Bond theme for some reason. The orchestration wasn't different, was it? , but .

[Harmsway]

I've heard another poster (DNS?) suggest that the theme is be as bold as it is and as jarring as it is for a very deliberate purpose. It's as if to say, "Here's your hero's theme in all its glory. This is the awful cost he had to bear so that you could be satisfied that "James Bond will return".

Eh. If you want to fanwank it that way, I guess you can. But I don't think OHMSS is a film of great integrity or depth, or at least not enough of one to merit such an interpretation.

[00Twelve]

I've heard another poster (DNS?) suggest that the theme is be as bold as it is and as jarring as it is for a very deliberate purpose. It's as if to say, "Here's your hero's theme in all its glory. This is the awful cost he had to bear so that you could be satisfied that "James Bond will return".

Eh. If you want to fanwank it that way, I guess you can. But I don't think OHMSS is a film of great integrity or depth, or at least not enough of one to merit such an interpretation.

Ah, but you never know how lofty the intentions were. This is John Barry, who was probably given the most free reign he'd yet received in the Bond series, and who definitely wouldn't be one to phone it in on a Bond story like this one. The more I think about it, the more I think there was definite method to his madness, and it wasn't just a case of "The Bond theme would sound rousing here."

[Harmsway]

Ah, but you never know how lofty the intentions were.

I don't (though I suspect, looking at the track record with the 60s Bonds and the film itself, they weren't particularly lofty at all). But if they were that lofty, they were too lofty for the film. The film's very shallow indeed. To throw in a trick like that at the end is rather silly, especially since it's going to be lost on so much of the audience - nobody's thinking on that level, since the film doesn't ever ask them to engage on that level.

This is John Barry, who was probably given the most free reign he'd yet received in the Bond series, and who definitely wouldn't be one to phone it in on a Bond story like this one.

Speculation. It could just as easily been a Broccoli/Saltzman mandate more than anything else.

[00Twelve]

Ah, but you never know how lofty the intentions were.

I don't (though I suspect, looking at the track record with the 60s Bonds and the film itself, they weren't particularly lofty at all). But if they were that lofty, they were too lofty for the film. The film's very shallow indeed. To throw in a trick like that at the end is rather silly, especially since it's going to be lost on so much of the audience - nobody's thinking on that level, since the film doesn't ever ask them to engage on that level.

But wouldn't the intention simply be to jar the audience? I'm not saying the audience was immediately intended to think "Oh, I should feel guilty for wanting more James Bond movies; now look what I did," but that they should be jolted back into the reality that "This is James Bond. And James Bond will return." Maybe I'm totally fanwanking (which would be nothing new), but I genuinely do feel regret about Bond's returning when the instrumental violently gives way to the brassy chorus of the Bond theme. Just me.

This is John Barry, who was probably given the most free reign he'd yet received in the Bond series, and who definitely wouldn't be one to phone it in on a Bond story like this one.

Speculation. It could just as easily been a Broccoli/Saltzman mandate more than anything else.

Oh, no doubt. I'm just looking at the so-called "dramatic" content versus that of the five preceding films (none of which have a bonafide love story, no matter how well/badly OHMSS handled its own), the advent of a new Bond, and the evolving ear of a talented composer. This track could easily have been a producer-driven decision, but don't discount that Barry could have had the idea. Obviously, it wouldn't be in the final cut unless it had been approved, but composers generally get to experiment with how they want to use the music to evoke the moment (which is then subject to the director). Between Barry and Hunt, it's certainly not out of the question.

But I will cede this to you, this is a wild goose chase.

[kitt22]

The chase scene music sounds top notch! Good stuff!

[Glockenspiel]

By reading the tracks list of the QOS soundtrack (on amazon.co.uk), I'm under the impression that the tracks (and not only the song) are not presented at all in the order of the movie.
Here's the list :
1. Time To Get Out
2. The Palio
3. Inside Man
4. Bond In Haiti
5. Somebody Wants To Kill You
6. Greene & Camille
7. Pursuit At Port Au Prince
8. No Interest In Dominic Greene
9. Night At The Opera
10. Restrict Bond’s Movements
11. Talamone
12. What’s Keeping You Awake
13. Bolivian Taxi Ride
14. Field Trip
15. Forgive Yourself
16. DC3
17. Target Terminated
18. Camille’s Story
19. Oil Fields
20. Have You Ever Killed Someone?
21. Perla De Las Dunas
22. The Dead Don’t Care About Vengeance
23. I Never Left
24. Another Way To Die (Jack White & Alicia Keys)
What do you think?

[Vauxhall]

They look like they're in order to me personally.

[Marketto007]

Well, unless "Another Way To Die" will be on the End Credits, yes the musics not presented at all in the order of the movie.

xxx

[Shrublands]

Well, unless "Another Way To Die" will be on the End Credits, yes the musics not presented at all in the order of the movie.

xxx

Well it seems to me that all of Arnold’s score is presented in the order that it will play in the movie.

[marktmurphy]

It's entirely possible that that recording of the Bond theme comes from the CR sessions- I don't think we can really glean too much from this.

Doubt it, since the rest of the footage of Arnold composing is from his work for QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

But they don't match too well: some footage of a full orchestra and then cut to Arnold on his own in a little room. Doesn't exactly look like they shot the two on the same day.

[Harmsway]

But they don't match too well: some footage of a full orchestra and then cut to Arnold on his own in a little room. Doesn't exactly look like they shot the two on the same day.

And then they cut back to the orchestra playing the piece Arnold played in the little room, scoring the Palio chase from QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

[marktmurphy]

I haven't seen the new report; I'm at work. All I'm saying is that when we saw the shorter piece it wasn't exactly ridiculous to point out the differences.

[Tim007]

Arnold's become a bit chubby, hasn't he?

[DamnCoffee]

I wonder when we'll get some soundtrack samples.