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Is it me or has the Brosnan hate become absurd?


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#181 Judo chop

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 12:38 AM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

#182 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 12:48 AM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(

#183 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 01:16 AM

Is it me or has the Brosnan hate become absurd?

It's you.

#184 Stephen Spotswood

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 02:24 PM

I get Huey Newton, Wayne Newton, and Huey Lewis mixed up all the time.

I guess I need a new drug.

#185 Skudor

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 02:28 PM

People make him out to be some dull mannequin when the truth is that Brosnan had lots of charisma and was a very good Bond.

I prefer Dalton and Craig but can't deny that Goldeneye is one of the most exciting action films out there.

I can't believe how underrated Brosnan is now. Goldeneye and Tommorow Never Dies (UNDERRATED) are 2 fantastic Bond films and Brosnan is the best thing in the other 2.


I would love to see DAD Brosnan in Goldeney. That might be something.

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 02:39 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


I thought it was Gilbert & Sulivan.

#187 Judo chop

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 02:51 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


I thought it was Gilbert & Sulivan.

Gilbert and Sulivan?

Are they the ones that did those wonderful travels?

Oh no, wait... that was Gulliver. Never mind.

#188 Stephen Spotswood

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 04:14 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


I thought it was Gilbert & Sulivan.

Gilbert and Sulivan?

Are they the ones that did those wonderful travels?

Oh no, wait... that was Gulliver. Never mind.


I thought it was this guy in the red shirt banging boots with these two:

http://patdollard.co...nnisland500.jpg

#189 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 08:20 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


I thought it was Gilbert & Sulivan.

Gilbert and Sulivan?

Are they the ones that did those wonderful travels?

Oh no, wait... that was Gulliver. Never mind.

I thought it was this guy in the red shirt banging boots with these two:

http://patdollard.co...nnisland500.jpg

Isn't that the fellow who had a wake? :)

...no, sorry; that was Finnegan! :)

#190 001carus

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 12:00 AM

I think it partly stems from the fact that Daniel Craig was so hated prior to Casino Royale, and the pro Pierce fans continued to hammer it in. Eventually, when it was realised that Daniel was arguably a better actor, the Daniel fans jumped on it straight away, and quickly wiped the floor clean to get rid of those Pierce fans.

I was once a wild Pierce fan - but this was when I understood the Bond series and no more than fun action movies with quips, puns, one liners, and "Bond, James Bond." They went through the motions, and were overall very safe. Casino Royale made me understand what Bond is meant to be all about a LOT more. I got into the books after that, and looking back, it partly saddens me to see some so called "Bond fans" who think Daniel Craig is a terrible Bond because they think Pierce is doing it right and Daniel is completely wrong.

All of this adds up to the DC fans hitting back quite hard I think. It's understandable, but the Pierce Brosnan movies are certainly not bad. I love Goldeneye - a really good movie. TND is great fun. I was never really fond of TWINE, but it too is a bit of fun, and DAD - well... it's alright I suppose. But certainly, Pierce is underrated on the forum right now, which is understandable. Pierce being underrated is partly the same reason Dalton gets so much respect now.

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 01:46 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


I thought it was Gilbert & Sulivan.

Gilbert and Sulivan?

Are they the ones that did those wonderful travels?

Oh no, wait... that was Gulliver. Never mind.

I thought it was this guy in the red shirt banging boots with these two:

http://patdollard.co...nnisland500.jpg

Isn't that the fellow who had a wake? :)

...no, sorry; that was Finnegan! :)


Re-Joyce!

#192 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 03:11 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


I thought it was Gilbert & Sulivan.

Gilbert and Sulivan?

Are they the ones that did those wonderful travels?

Oh no, wait... that was Gulliver. Never mind.

I thought it was this guy in the red shirt banging boots with these two:

http://patdollard.co...nnisland500.jpg

Isn't that the fellow who had a wake? ;)

...no, sorry; that was Finnegan! :)


Re-Joyce!

Re-Joyce Brothers? :)

#193 bondrules

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 06:04 AM

At least for me the main problem with Brosnan is that he keeps on saying that he has made his peace with not being Bond anymore, but every time I read his comments on the matter it just seems to me that he is still far from getting over it.....I think that even if he will always remain resentful, he should keep that feeling to himself, I like honesty, but this makes him look like a bitter and resentful old chap

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 07:10 AM

At least for me the main problem with Brosnan is that he keeps on saying that he has made his peace with not being Bond anymore, but every time I read his comments on the matter it just seems to me that he is still far from getting over it.....I think that even if he will always remain resentful, he should keep that feeling to himself, I like honesty, but this makes him look like a bitter and resentful old chap


Well if your movies were getting more and more successful at the box-office only to come home, "Well done, good job, but sorry, old boy, everything you sought and acted for has change". "I know you wanted better scripts, but we decided we to do without you kthxbai". Every other Bond actor left pretty much by his own doing, Brosnan got kicked to the curb and left hanging outside looking like "WTF?"

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 07:55 AM

How can someone hate the man who put Bond back on the track? Broz did a bloody good job and guys, don't think we've seen the last of him as Bond :(

#196 double o ego

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 06:14 PM

I for one don't hate Brosnan but imo he is easily the worst of all the Bonds and his movies are the worst in the series. I think Brosnan was thrilled more than anything at the fact that he was the man playing Bond and as long as he had that title, eerything else was secondary or simply didn't matter. Brosnan was a fanboy who wanted and tried to be all the Bonds before him, instead of haing the integrity to realy carve out an identity for himself. To me, his era is the nonsense era and that's saying a lot when you'e got contenders like Moore BUT at least with Moore he/they knew what they were doing and more importantly, the Moore era had much more enjoyable films.

So, Brosnan's films made huge money. From a studio stand point, that equals success. From GE to TWINE, the nonsense era wee merely coasting until the poop hit the fan in DAD, where although the film made bank, critically and artistically, the film was a complete disaster. If Brosnan cared about the series as much as people think he did OR if he wanted better scripts as opposed to the mediocre to the down right craptastic material he was given, he didn't have to do the films. He could have threatened to walk and MAYBE changes for the better could be made BUT the fact is, Brosnan caved, he sold out in favour of the pay cheque and the claim to being Bond.

Imo, Michael Keaton is still the best batman but he quit simply because he didn't like the direction they wanted to take the batman movies in and as dissapointed as I am about it, I have much more respect for him and his decision. When it comes down to it, it's a matter of artistic principle and with Craig, he's made it perfectly loud and clear that if the scripts aren' up to snuff, you can forget about him returning. The producers know how good Craig is and they have infinite faith in his abilities. The same can't be said for Brosnan and that's why his films were plagued with OTT nonsense and bloated gadgetry and the cheesiest of cheesy cliches, which, put the character of Bond slightly in the back seat. Pfft, when you think about it, the star of the Brosnan era wasn't even Brosnan himself but everyone and everything else. How sad and unfortunate.

In closing, I appreciate that Brosnan gave us four movies and I appreciate that Brosnan was the Bond that established and cemented Bond's relevance in a post cold war world BUT Brosnan imo isn't as good as people make him out to be. I suppose he MAY be bitter at the fact that he was let go as opposed to finishing under his own terms.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 08:26 PM

. . . don't think we've seen the last of him as Bond :)



Um . . . I think we can! :(

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 09:30 PM

At least for me the main problem with Brosnan is that he keeps on saying that he has made his peace with not being Bond anymore, but every time I read his comments on the matter it just seems to me that he is still far from getting over it.....I think that even if he will always remain resentful, he should keep that feeling to himself, I like honesty, but this makes him look like a bitter and resentful old chap


Well if your movies were getting more and more successful at the box-office only to come home, "Well done, good job, but sorry, old boy, everything you sought and acted for has change". "I know you wanted better scripts, but we decided we to do without you kthxbai". Every other Bond actor left pretty much by his own doing, Brosnan got kicked to the curb and left hanging outside looking like "WTF?"


Albert Broccoli would have had more class in handling the situation than those two imbecile producers Bumbling Babs and Wanker Wilson.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 10:02 PM

The problem I had with Brosnan was simply that I enjoyed GE so much, and found TND a complete washout. I hated it, pure and simple. TWINE was rather better, I thought, and DAD had its moments, but some of those moments were enough to make me want to punch someone. And Brosnan did look far too old for DAD. It was like AVTAK revisited.

GE remains one of my favourites though, although I've found it's become tainted by the disappointment of TND.

I don't think any Bond actor worthy of hate. They all brought something to the role.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:09 PM

At least for me the main problem with Brosnan is that he keeps on saying that he has made his peace with not being Bond anymore, but every time I read his comments on the matter it just seems to me that he is still far from getting over it.....I think that even if he will always remain resentful, he should keep that feeling to himself, I like honesty, but this makes him look like a bitter and resentful old chap


Well if your movies were getting more and more successful at the box-office only to come home, "Well done, good job, but sorry, old boy, everything you sought and acted for has change". "I know you wanted better scripts, but we decided we to do without you kthxbai". Every other Bond actor left pretty much by his own doing, Brosnan got kicked to the curb and left hanging outside looking like "WTF?"


Albert Broccoli would have had more class in handling the situation than those two imbecile producers Bumbling Babs and Wanker Wilson.


I can't believe y'all are bringing up these old outdated arguments. He was not fired, not let go, not treated badly. His contract was up, they chose not to renew it. It is that simple. The only one making a big deal out of this (besides y'all) is Brosnan.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:17 AM

Albert Broccoli would have had more class in handling the situation than those two imbecile producers Bumbling Babs and Wanker Wilson.


Hmm, yes. Class.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 07:37 AM

At least for me the main problem with Brosnan is that he keeps on saying that he has made his peace with not being Bond anymore, but every time I read his comments on the matter it just seems to me that he is still far from getting over it.....I think that even if he will always remain resentful, he should keep that feeling to himself, I like honesty, but this makes him look like a bitter and resentful old chap


Well if your movies were getting more and more successful at the box-office only to come home, "Well done, good job, but sorry, old boy, everything you sought and acted for has change". "I know you wanted better scripts, but we decided we to do without you kthxbai". Every other Bond actor left pretty much by his own doing, Brosnan got kicked to the curb and left hanging outside looking like "WTF?"


Albert Broccoli would have had more class in handling the situation than those two imbecile producers Bumbling Babs and Wanker Wilson.


I can't believe y'all are bringing up these old outdated arguments. He was not fired, not let go, not treated badly. His contract was up, they chose not to renew it. It is that simple. The only one making a big deal out of this (besides y'all) is Brosnan.


Sure, his contract was up but the point is, he wanted to do another and the producers told him he would but then they did a complete 180 and decided to go for someone else, which supports my comment about Brosnan leaving the series not under his own terms.

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 02:43 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


Lewis Collins?

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:25 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


Lewis Collins?
http://i102.photobuc...ins_Bodie01.jpg


Joan Collins.

#205 Stephen Spotswood

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 03:34 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


Lewis Collins?
http://i102.photobuc...ins_Bodie01.jpg


Joan Collins.


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Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:00 PM

They also gave Desmond Llewelyn a more active part in LTK for laughs, and Huey Newton as well.

I'm sure this was a typo, but it amused me. I'm sure you meant Wayne Newton. Huey Newton was one of the founding members of the '60s counterculture group Black Panthers.

It's alright Stephen. I keep confusing Huey Lewis and Gilbert Lewis.

Don't you mean Lewis Gilbert? :(


Lewis Collins?
http://i102.photobuc...ins_Bodie01.jpg


Joan Collins.

Oh yes.

#207 Safari Suit

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 05:00 PM

Has this turned into tag or something?

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 05:05 PM

Yes. It's all getting rather absurd.

Which conveniently takes us right back on topic! :(

#209 Stephen Spotswood

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Posted 30 September 2008 - 05:26 PM

No man should ever say he had made his piece

It sounds so you know

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 02:31 PM

No man should ever say he had made his piece

It sounds so you know

Icky.


Agreed. The sound of one hand...slapping.