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#31 ChrissBond007

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 04:45 PM

What Design would you like for the Gunbarrel itself?
Kleinmans Brosnan Design (GoldenEye to Die Another Day), without that bullet from DAD please.

What would you like Craig to wear in the Gunbarrel?
A Tuxedo.

What Music would you like for the Gunbarrel?
The James Bond Theme.

How would you like to see the Gunbarrel to play out
No preference.

What blood would you like to flow down the screen?
Brosnan era blood, but it would be also cool to see Kleinmans Casino Royale Blood.

Edited by ChrissBond007, 20 August 2008 - 04:46 PM.


#32 Royal Dalton

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 06:26 PM

1. What Design would you like for the Gunbarrel itself?

A digitally recreated version of Binder's original gunbarrel.

2. What would you like Craig to wear in the Gunbarrel?

A navy blue suit and tie.

3. What Music would you like for the Gunbarrel?

Da da da-da da da da.

4. How would you like to see the Gunbarrel to play out?

Like Dalton's, but with Craig.

5. What blood would you like to flow down the screen?

70s and 80s version.

#33 Double-0-Seven

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:38 PM

1. What Design would you like for the Gunbarrel itself?

I don't have a preference for this. I'd be just as happy with the Casino Royale one as I would if they went back to the Brosnan one.

2. What would you like Craig to wear in the Gunbarrel?

The open shirt like in the Casino Royale gun barrel. I think it would fit the grittiness of his Bond better than the tuxedo.

3. What Music would you like for the Gunbarrel?

The James Bond Theme for sure. Something like Arnold's end credits theme for Casino Royale would be perfect I think. I've always been a bigger fan of the main riff being played by the guitar than by the orchestra like it was for Moore and Dalton.

4. How would you like to see the Gunbarrel to play out?

The classic way, though I won't mind if it doesn't have the walk across. I think it would still look cool if when the gun barrel scrolls across Daniel Craig just turns and shoots.

5. What blood would you like to flow down the screen?

Like the first question, I again have no preference.

#34 jgw007

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 08:27 PM

I have very particular prefrences on this one - since the moment I saw RogerMoore Walk across the screen -

1.The design should be closer to the original - less Casino Royale and more Die Another Day (digital)

2. There are dinner jackets and there are dinner jackets - its a logo and it should be stylized as such. GO TUX

3.Close to the end of Casino Royale - with the blaring intro - the ones with the intro are always better- Orchestra intro, but classic electric guitar riff. Best of both worlds. Tomorrow Never Dies, Spy who loved me, TWINE, I think were good - but without the blaring intro - not great

4.Walk across - right to left, turn and fire - like all the rest.

5. no preference

6. Whatever you do, dont stop the dot in the middle like on OHMSS - we already think the world of you producers, no need to highlight that before the walk across!!

#35 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:13 AM

6. Whatever you do, dont stop the dot in the middle like on OHMSS - we already think the world of you producers, no need to highlight that before the walk across!!

Or have the cascading blood erase the image of Bond. That just looked stupid.

#36 JimmyBond

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 04:11 AM

I'm not trying to rain on everyone's parade, but let's not forget that MK12 are doing the titles now. So any suggestions of going back to a Klienman gunbarrel, or the Binder one is just not going to happen. MK12 is going to do it their own way, they gain nothing by recreating someone elses design, if they were going to go back to a Klienman style gunbarrel anyways why not just get Klienman to do it?

I think we're going to get something that's Bondian, yet highly original.

#37 Mr Teddy Bear

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 08:19 AM

I'm not trying to rain on everyone's parade, but let's not forget that MK12 are doing the titles now. So any suggestions of going back to a Klienman gunbarrel, or the Binder one is just not going to happen. MK12 is going to do it their own way, they gain nothing by recreating someone elses design, if they were going to go back to a Klienman style gunbarrel anyways why not just get Klienman to do it?

I think we're going to get something that's Bondian, yet highly original.


I don't entirely agree. Yes, MK12 are the title designers, but Babs and Michael may want a consistent design to use for this new era. Generally, this series is bigger than the indivual talents who contribute; a new composer does not mean rewriting a new Bond theme. If the producers have something specific in mind, they'll get it- even if that means stepping on the creative toes of MK12.

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:04 AM

Actually, I wouldn´t mind seeing no gunbarrel at all.

Wow, quite a shocker.

But seriously, why do we need another gunbarrel. We know it´s a Bond picture. And the gunbarrel was very much tied into the previous 20 films-era.

I enjoyed CR opening without the gunbarrel and then going into a realistic gunbarrel-scene and this one exploding into the title sequence.

I´d say: no gunbarrel at the beginning. Instead, an individual gunbarrel or action sequence at the end of the pre-title-sequence leading directly into the title sequence.

#39 DamnCoffee

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:07 AM

I think nearly all of us want a Gunbarrel, because It sets the tone for the film. Without the gunbarrel we would have just another action movie. It's iconic, we cant not have one. :(

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:35 AM

I think nearly all of us want a Gunbarrel, because It sets the tone for the film. Without the gunbarrel we would have just another action movie. It's iconic, we cant not have one. :)


But was CR also just another action movie for not having the traditional gunbarrel? And aren´t Q and Moneypenny iconic? :(

Don´t get me wrong, I have nothing against the gunbarrel returning. But a little change would be welcome. Something new and fresh that would fit with the new era.

#41 DamnCoffee

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:49 AM

I think that Casino Royale was something new and fresh. tbh, I dont think there is no reason to not include the gunbarrel. If Casino Royale wasn't a reboot and included the gunbarrel before the main titles, us fans would have a right to be pissed off. Since Casino Royale was a reboot and fitted in with the story (Bond's first Kill) we accepted it. Quantum of Solace is a Bond movie, I think it should include the gunbarrel before the PTS. :(

#42 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:54 AM

In that case, I´d like it to be redesigned and with Craig´s CR bathroom pose and the YKMN melody. :(

#43 DamnCoffee

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:59 AM

:(

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:04 PM

Actually, I wouldn´t mind seeing no gunbarrel at all.

Wow, quite a shocker.

But seriously, why do we need another gunbarrel. We know it´s a Bond picture. And the gunbarrel was very much tied into the previous 20 films-era.

I enjoyed CR opening without the gunbarrel and then going into a realistic gunbarrel-scene and this one exploding into the title sequence.

I´d say: no gunbarrel at the beginning. Instead, an individual gunbarrel or action sequence at the end of the pre-title-sequence leading directly into the title sequence.

I pretty much agree with you. I know it's not popular around here, but something about the gun barrel always made me feel like the movie would be taken less serious, more gimmicky. Just my opinion.
With CR going to a more gritty realistic Bond, I love what they did and hope they continue in that direction.
I would like it to play out in the scene where Bond is falling, entangled in the ropes. He grabs the rope, scoops up his PPK, turns fires, and that's the gunbarrel. Same idea as CR, just a different scene.

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:11 PM

1. What Design would you like for the Gunbarrel itself?

CR's design.

2. What would you like Craig to wear in the Gunbarrel?

Tuxedo.

3. What Music would you like for the Gunbarrel?

LTK style music.

4. How would you like to see the Gunbarrel to play out?

Much like Craig's first stance.

5. What blood would you like to flow down the screen?

CR's vertical blood drip.

#46 Publius

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:13 PM

Actually, I wouldn´t mind seeing no gunbarrel at all.

Same here. I always found the gunbarrel cheesy, the only question remaining how much could they mitigate such inevitable cheesiness. I think CR almost made it cool, but any return to the traditional formula would immediately remind me how stale it became a long time ago.

Just as I don't want paint-by-numbers relics like Moneypenny and push-buttons-in-order-Q-showed-us gadgets, I'd rather they let the character of Bond drive the movie without relying on "classic" lines (that even Connery used sparingly), dancing women with guns, and so on. I'm not only confident Bond can carry the movie on his own, I know I'll enjoy it more that way.

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 05:04 PM

I would like it to play out in the scene where Bond is falling, entangled in the ropes. He grabs the rope, scoops up his PPK, turns fires, and that's the gunbarrel.


Except that scene takes place well after the titles :(

I don't mind a return of the gunbarrel, I don't think it says anything about the tone of the film, what says anything about the tone of the film is the music that accompanys the gunbarrel. With LTK we knew we were in for something a tad different because the gunbarrel music is so dark (at least in my opinion).

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 07:59 AM

Except that scene takes place well after the titles :(

I don't mind a return of the gunbarrel, I don't think it says anything about the tone of the film, what says anything about the tone of the film is the music that accompanys the gunbarrel. With LTK we knew we were in for something a tad different because the gunbarrel music is so dark (at least in my opinion).


Agreed fully. LTK has my favorite gunbarrel music out of the entire series, and I think QoS' needs to be similar. Something that still smacks of the Bond theme, but slightly different, melodically, and darker. It would both help set up that this is another 'revenge' focused movie, and it would still provide a nice counterpoint after not hearing the Bond theme at all until the end of CR.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 09:53 AM

I always found the gunbarrel cheesy...


Er... Bond trademarks are cheesy, hm? so is the 007 Gun Logo cheesy too? and the Dancing Girls? and the Bond theme? and M? and Moneypenny? and Q? and the Walter PPK? :(

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 10:54 AM

Actually, I wouldn´t mind seeing no gunbarrel at all.

Wow, quite a shocker.

But seriously, why do we need another gunbarrel. We know it´s a Bond picture. And the gunbarrel was very much tied into the previous 20 films-era.

I enjoyed CR opening without the gunbarrel and then going into a realistic gunbarrel-scene and this one exploding into the title sequence.

I´d say: no gunbarrel at the beginning. Instead, an individual gunbarrel or action sequence at the end of the pre-title-sequence leading directly into the title sequence.



I see what you are saying. I thoroughly enjoyed the way Casino Royale did it going right into the title sequence like that. I'm all for another version of that as the gunbarrel, not the traditional gb. Don't get me wrong I think the gunbarrel is classic, and look great in the older films, and I'll probably catch all kinds of hell for this, but it can come across as a bit staid. Just my opinion, mind you. CR's was so different and wowed me, that it made a huge impression.

Whatever they do with the gunbarrel, I'm open to it. I'm just happy to be getting a new Bond film this year! It's all good. :(

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 11:31 AM

Did you consider that they may do it exactly as in CR? I mean Craig turns 360 degrees and shoots. It was awesome! Why another one? :(

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 12:44 PM

Did you consider that they may do it exactly as in CR? I mean Craig turns 360 degrees and shoots. It was awesome! Why another one? :(


360 degrees? Do you expect him to grab his crotch and moonwalk off screen after too? :)

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 12:47 PM

Did you consider that they may do it exactly as in CR? I mean Craig turns 360 degrees and shoots. It was awesome! Why another one? :(


That is a possibility. But I'd rather he did the walk.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 01:31 PM

so is the 007 Gun Logo cheesy too? and the Dancing Girls? and the Bond theme? and M? and Moneypenny? and Q? and the Walter PPK? :(

No, yes, no, no, yes, yes, and no.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 03:29 PM

1. What Design would you like for the Gunbarrel itself?

Casino Royale's one just recyled.

2. What would you like Craig to wear in the Gunbarrel?

As above

3. What Music would you like for the Gunbarrel?

The James Bond Theme

4. How would you like to see the Gunbarrel to play out?

See Casino Royale

5. What blood would you like to flow down the screen?

CR's vertical blood drip.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 04:34 PM

I've seen a production still of them rehearsing the new gunbarrel shoot with Craig's stand-in.

He's wearing a black dinner jacket and bow tie, and he's standing on a grey-white set. I think the gun he's holding is a PPK, but I can't tell for certain.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 04:59 PM

I think nearly all of us want a Gunbarrel, because It sets the tone for the film. Without the gunbarrel we would have just another action movie. It's iconic, we cant not have one. :(



So you're saying take away the gunbarrel and it's NOT a Bond movie?
Wow, just Wow!

I don't agree with this. I'd like to see Craigster's interpretation of the 'walk', but take away the gunbarrel and suddenly it's not Bond movie? No way! Whether it has gunbarrel or not it is still a Bond movie... to some.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 04:59 PM

Actually, I wouldn´t mind seeing no gunbarrel at all.

Same here. I always found the gunbarrel cheesy, the only question remaining how much could they mitigate such inevitable cheesiness. I think CR almost made it cool, but any return to the traditional formula would immediately remind me how stale it became a long time ago.

Just as I don't want paint-by-numbers relics like Moneypenny and push-buttons-in-order-Q-showed-us gadgets, I'd rather they let the character of Bond drive the movie without relying on "classic" lines (that even Connery used sparingly), dancing women with guns, and so on. I'm not only confident Bond can carry the movie on his own, I know I'll enjoy it more that way.

I’m actually prone to think the ol’ iconic standards were brought down to the level of the films. That is, the films got stale after a while, and took the by-numbers elements with them; not the other way around. I don’t think the traditional add-ons have the weight to really hold back a film, because they are just that: add-ons.

I agree with you that this new Bond can hold his own. Unlike many, many previous Bonds going fairly far back, this one doesn’t need the life vests of MP, Q, gunbarrel, ‘classic lines’, etc…

But having said that, this Bond can bring the credit back to those things. He’s a new Bond (not just a new actor), and I believe he’s opened up the door to make those extras cool again. Of course some of them will have to reinvent themselves as Bond has been reinvented. MP, Q and his gadgets will need fresh new approaches, but the gunbarrel and classic lines… well, they can just come along for the ride.

All personal taste of course. Not a matter of right or wrong.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 07:21 PM

1. What Design would you like for the Gunbarrel itself?

Kleinmans Brosnan Design (GoldenEye to Die Another Day)

2. What would you like Craig to wear in the Gunbarrel?

A Tuxedo.

3. What Music would you like for the Gunbarrel?

The James Bond Theme.- Same arrangement as DAD but with less beats

4. How would you like to see the Gunbarrel to play out?
How about no walk? Once the smaller dots disappear, we can have a tiny dot that zooms in and we can still have Craig turn and shoot.

5. What blood would you like to flow down the screen?

Completely New Design. - never been a big fan of any of the bloods. Probably Brosnan's era witha little more 3D feel to it.

#60 DamnCoffee

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 09:46 PM

I think nearly all of us want a Gunbarrel, because It sets the tone for the film. Without the gunbarrel we would have just another action movie. It's iconic, we cant not have one. :(



So you're saying take away the gunbarrel and it's NOT a Bond movie?
Wow, just Wow!


Maybe I should rephrase that, what I meant to say is that the Gunbarrel is Iconic and if we dont have it, it will feel like the movie is missing something. There's nothing better that going to a cinema and seeing a James Bond film opening with the Gunbarrel, it sets the tone for the film, we instantly know that it's a James Bond film with this introduction. Casino Royale itself took away many iconic figures: Q, Moneypenny, Dancing Girls, Gadgets. I'm not saying I disagree with this i'm just saying that if they take away any more, it might just feel like it's missing something.