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#31 doubler83

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:32 AM

I'm throwing a new name out there for the title song.

Mogwai.

#32 Zorin Industries

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:44 AM

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Hmmmm. Which shot is this?


I would say it's the MI6 orientated hologram snippet.

Thinking about this some more... there's no way Forster would be still scrambling for a song at this point. He's an auteur, so I'm sure he had something specific in mind for the mood of the title sequence

That leaves three possibilities:

1) Arnold is has written the song (perhaps in collaboration with Forster's Indie Rock Band buddies) and they're looking for a name to sing it
2) Someone dropped off a tape of an awesome song at EON and everyone loved it. Performer is singing the song and it's just super-under wraps.
3) Someone who is not a desirable name because of lack of fame/personal problems (Winehouse) wrote an awesome song (either dropped off or commissioned by Forster), and they're looking for a name to sing it.

I think the former is somewhat more likely.


Rest assured, the song and the talent performing it were decided a while back now.


I'm throwing a new name out there for the title song.

Mogwai.


But what if they get wet in the recording studio or eat after midnight....?

#33 Double-Oh Agent

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:53 AM

It could be an instrumental.

People seem to be seriously entertaining this idea for the main titles over at the "other" forum. Could happen, I guess, but there will almost certainly be a sung track at the end credits if that happens.

I instrumentals were as good as everyone "over there" is making out, we'd have had one since OHMSS.

I think fans, in general, would love an instrumental but it wont sell the movie. Hence, no instrumental theme since OHMSS.

Good luck to MK12. But it would have been far more interesting to see Daniel Kleinman continue with his new style...

I totally agree. Kleinman's work is awesome. He's done absolutely rock-solid, terrific stuff on every one of his Bond films.

#34 DamnCoffee

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:56 AM

Is Kleinman confirmed to be out then? or is he working with MK12?

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 12:09 PM

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#36 Harmsway

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 12:36 PM

Is Kleinman confirmed to be out then? or is he working with MK12?

The comments above imply that he's out, given that MK12 takes responsisibility for the credit design themselves.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 12:59 PM

It could be an instrumental.

People seem to be seriously entertaining this idea for the main titles over at the "other" forum. Could happen, I guess, but there will almost certainly be a sung track at the end credits if that happens.

I instrumentals were as good as everyone "over there" is making out, we'd have had one since OHMSS.

I think fans, in general, would love an instrumental but it wont sell the movie. Hence, no instrumental theme since OHMSS.

Good luck to MK12. But it would have been far more interesting to see Daniel Kleinman continue with his new style...

I totally agree. Kleinman's work is awesome. He's done absolutely rock-solid, terrific stuff on every one of his Bond films.

It's not like Kleinmann is suddenly penniless ... besides, I don't get this whole "let's keep him" argument when there's been repeated calls for Pruvis & Wade, David Arnold and Judi Dench to be shown the door beause they've been around for too long.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 01:10 PM

It's not like Kleinmann is suddenly penniless ... besides, I don't get this whole "let's keep him" argument when there's been repeated calls for Pruvis & Wade, David Arnold and Judi Dench to be shown the door beause they've been around for too long.

Many fans want Purvis & Wade and David Arnold to be dropped from the franchise because they think their work is sub-standard (me included). As far as Dench, I think folks think her M is starting to wear a bit thin.

Kleinman, however, has done consistently good work and just recently knocked it out of the park with CASINO ROYALE. It seemed like he was just getting warmed up.

#39 Mister E

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 04:45 PM

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Hah Hah ! Nice ! :tup:

#40 Qwerty

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:02 PM

Is Kleinman confirmed to be out then? or is he working with MK12?


It's definitely not sounding like he'll be apart of this one, which is kind of a shame in my opinion.

Still, it should be really interesting to see what this group comes up with and especially how it compares to the Binder and Kleinman titles.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:07 PM

Shame about Kleinmann. His work was only getting stronger. CR was brilliant.

MK12 better hit it out of the park or they are going to hear about it.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:09 PM

I am personally not all that broken up that Kleinman is not doing the titles. I only liked his GE and CR work but looking at MK12's art, they blow everything he did out of the water.

Edited by Mister E, 28 July 2008 - 06:12 PM.


#43 DamnCoffee

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:33 PM

Is Kleinman confirmed to be out then? or is he working with MK12?


It's definitely not sounding like he'll be apart of this one, which is kind of a shame in my opinion.

Still, it should be really interesting to see what this group comes up with and especially how it compares to the Binder and Kleinman titles.


Well hopefully he'll be back for Bond 23. Personally, I think MK12 will be a one off. Forster seems to be bringing along people he's worked with on previous movies into Quantum of Solace, which I dont mind. It will be very refreshing to have some new talent working on Quantum of Solace.


Ooooh I've just had a thought, If MK12 are a one off and Kleiman is back for Bond 23, does this mean that we will have a new gunbarrel design for the first three Craig movies? :tup:

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:35 PM

It's not like Kleinmann is suddenly penniless ... besides, I don't get this whole "let's keep him" argument when there's been repeated calls for Pruvis & Wade, David Arnold and Judi Dench to be shown the door beause they've been around for too long.


I want Arnold, Purvis, and Wade gone because they are hacks. I hope Dench stays to finish up the Craig era.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:43 PM

Shame about Kleinmann. His work was only getting stronger. CR was brilliant.

Absolutely. Of all the James Bond alumni, Kleinman was one who was difficult to criticise. He totally "got" the job. Quite simply, he consistantly delivered - and I, for one, am sad to see him off Quantum of Solace.

That said, I'm extremely curious to see what MK12 come up with. It's just an extraordinarily tough act to follow.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:46 PM

Forster seems to be bringing along people he's worked with on previous movies into Quantum of Solace...


Exactly. This Bond crew is definitely filled with a lot of Forster regulars and it appear that this extends to the main title sequence design as well. I hope and expect to see Kleinman return for Bond 23 and the following films.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:46 PM

Of all the James Bond alumni, Kleinman was one who was difficult to criticise.


I think Ken Adam and John Barry are the only ones who get that honor. I really hated Kleinman's work for TND-DAD. They had some great technichal aspects but the showman ship was not there. They heavily lacked the appeal of Binder's best work.

Edited by Mister E, 28 July 2008 - 06:48 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:47 PM

I am personally not all that broken up that Kleinman is not doing the titles. I only liked his GE and CR work but looking at MK12's art, they blow everything he did out of the water.

I dunno. I wasn't that impressed by what I saw of MK12's material. I mean, it was good and all, but I'll be amazed if they can beat Kleinman's work on CASINO ROYALE (which, in my mind, was the best title sequence since Binder's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE).

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:51 PM

I dunno. I wasn't that impressed by what I saw of MK12's material. I mean, it was good and all, but I'll be amazed if they can beat Kleinman's work on CASINO ROYALE (which, in my mind, was the best title sequence since Binder's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE).


They easily beat CASINO ROYALE and anything he did. MK12's work is far more dynamic and un-conventional. Their STRANGER THEN FICTION work and CATCH ME IF YOU CAN had a classy feel to them but a modern edge, exactly what QOS is going for.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:53 PM


Of all the James Bond alumni, Kleinman was one who was difficult to criticise.


I think Ken Adam and John Barry are the only ones who get that honor. I really hated Kleinman's work for TND-DAD. They had some great technichal aspects but the showman ship was not there. They heavily lacked the appeal of Binder's best work.

It's completely subjective of course, but to me, Kleinman's work is near flawless. GoldenEye neatly bridges the gap between Binder's work and the direction Kleinman would take with his future titles. Tomorrow Never Dies's titles are perhaps his weakest to date (though there's still some spectacular imagery: the girls walking on the coloured guns and the girl leaping into the screen at the end immediately leap to mind), but only because the other four title sequences are so phenomenal. The World is not Enough's pastel colours are simply gorgeous and Die Another Day's titles are arguably the highlight of the film. And Casino Royale perfectly tones down the excesses of the title sequences preceding it (in line with the film itself).

I really hope MK12 can deliver.

#51 Harmsway

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:57 PM

I dunno. I wasn't that impressed by what I saw of MK12's material. I mean, it was good and all, but I'll be amazed if they can beat Kleinman's work on CASINO ROYALE (which, in my mind, was the best title sequence since Binder's YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE).

They easily beat CASINO ROYALE and anything he did. MK12's work is far more dynamic and un-conventional. Their STRANGER THEN FICTION work and CATCH ME IF YOU CAN had a classy feel to them but a modern edge, exactly what QOS is going for.

Wait, they did CATCH ME IF YOU CAN? In that case, I'm glad to have them on board. That was an incredible title sequence, and if they bring the same level of quality to QUANTUM, we'll have something really special.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:58 PM

Die Another Day's titles are arguably the highlight of the film.


Really is that saying anything ? :tup: Seriously though, I believe there was fair amount of stuff to like about Kleinman's work, some really nice special effects. I like the GE and CR titles alot but MK12 seems to be alot more bold and refreshing then Kleinman.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:59 PM

I really hope MK12 can deliver.


As do I. My only worry is, I hope MK12 don;t accidently stear away from the classic Bondain feel that has been present since Dr. No.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 06:59 PM

MK12's work is far more dynamic and un-conventional. Their STRANGER THEN FICTION work and CATCH ME IF YOU CAN had a classy feel to them but a modern edge, exactly what QOS is going for.

Hey, I didn't know they did Catch Me If You Can. I've only seen that film once, but the titles remain vivid in my memory.

I also liked their work on Stranger Than Fiction, but it didn't convince me they're the ones to take over from Kleinman. But Catch Me If You Can's titles are spectacular.

Maybe they're the ones to fill Kleinman's shoes, after all.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:05 PM

Sorry, I think I made a mistake. MK12 didn't do CATCH ME IF YOU CAN. :tup: I feel foolish, something should have told me it wasn't them.

Edited by Mister E, 28 July 2008 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:11 PM

Oh, MK12 didn't do CATCH ME IF YOU CAN after all? Shame. It would have given me a whole new level of faith in their assignment to QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

On that subject though, the guy who did it was Saul Bass.

It can't have been. Saul Bass died in '96.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:14 PM

It can't have been. Saul Bass died in '96.


I know, that's why I made an edit. I am in La La land today.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:15 PM

Sorry, I think I made a mistake. MK12 didn't do CATCH ME IF YOU CAN. :tup: I feel foolish, something should have told me it wasn't them.

Damn. I'm with Harmsway; that would have sold me on MK12.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:18 PM

Sorry, I think I made a mistake. MK12 didn't do CATCH ME IF YOU CAN. :tup: I feel foolish, something should have told me it wasn't them.

Damn. I'm with Harmsway; that would have sold me on MK12.


That was Nexus Productions, wasn't it?

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:19 PM


Sorry, I think I made a mistake. MK12 didn't do CATCH ME IF YOU CAN. :tup: I feel foolish, something should have told me it wasn't them.

Damn. I'm with Harmsway; that would have sold me on MK12.

That was Nexus Productions, wasn't it?

Looking at IMDB, I think it was.