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[HildebrandRarity]

marktmurphy, my old friend, you're not helping here! LOL!

We're trying to clarify whether the Alfa(s) is (are) police cars or the 'chasing villian's car'.

What you've thrown up is that it could be either! That they're 'playing' the same car...either "one" of the police cars OR the chasing "villian's" car.

In your mind your scenario (which is an additional, third scenario to my two) presents itself as which? A police car? Or the chasing villian?

[HildebrandRarity]

So are they going to continue or the shooting has finished ? Will the Italian goverment let them continue ?

I imagine Gary Powell (stunts) and Dan Bradley (Second Unit) will finish off what they need to at any point over the next few months (if, indeed they "need" to) at either Lake Garda or another similar piece of road somewhere else.

Af far as the 'Italian government' letting them contiue, I don't know too much about their laws but as a keen follower of Formula One Grand Prix racing and it's history, there have been three significant (from a legal point of view) deaths of top Grand Prix drivers over the past 38 years on Italian circuits:

Austrian Jochen Rindt who died at Monza in a Lotus in 1970, Swede Ronnie Peterson who also died in a Lotus at Monza in 1978 and, lastly, Brazilian Ayrton Senna who died at Imola in 1994 in a Williams-Renault.

All three deaths were heavily investigated by Italian authorities, especially the last one for which the court case went on (off and on, actually) for over a decade. Cars were impounded, manslaughter charges laid to team owners, etc. And these happened during a race! Where drivers actually die from time to time...moreso in the "old days" then "now", but still die.

This time there were no deaths. I'm sure a lot of contracts were signed absolving a lot of different people in case there was a "bad" accident or two. But at motor-racing circuits contracts are also signed and didn't prevent very costly court costs. BUT, do remember, no one was killed at Lake Garda...so...I suspect filming will finish at some point or other...either at the location or a substitute.

[Matt_13]

A "spy" video from the press conference last weekend:


The last couple of minutes are filmed from a car on the roads where QoS was filmed. Wow.

Wow is right. I really hope they got a majority of what was needed to get filmed here done because this location is amazing. Those rock formations are really something!

[marktmurphy]

marktmurphy, my old friend, you're not helping here! LOL!

We're trying to clarify whether the Alfa(s) is (are) police cars or the 'chasing villian's car'.

What you've thrown up is that it could be either! That they're 'playing' the same car...either "one" of the police cars OR the chasing "villian's" car.

In your mind your scenario (which is an additional, third scenario to my two) presents itself as which? A police car? Or the chasing villian?

Oh I reckon it's the villain's car. I'd guess that Bond is chasing it and police cars are chasing Bond, stopping him from catching it. And I reckon there'll only be one black Alfa onscreen. Only a guess, though- could be completely wrong.

[Royal Dalton]

I'd guess that they're both supposed to be the same car- the stuntman car was perhaps waiting off camera and got mixed up. Shame we can't see the numberplates on both cars to see if they're 'playing' the same one onscreen.

Here's yer number plates, Mark. They're supposed to be two cars.

http://img244.images...bondqos1at1.jpg

[HildebrandRarity]

Here's yer number plates, Mark. They're supposed to be two cars.

http://img244.images...bondqos1at1.jpg

...and the second one has a film camera mounted on the left rear. If these are the three vehicles in the accident, then mystery solved!

[Royal Dalton]

Here's another (possibly spoilerific) picture of the Aston Martin with a Carabinieri Land Rover.

http://img514.images...bondqos2vp4.jpg

[HildebrandRarity]

Here's another (possibly spoilerific) picture of the Aston Martin with a Carabinieri Land Rover.

http://img514.images...bondqos2vp4.jpg

That's the doorless one displayed earlier at the press conference site. Why is the door off? Did it get torn off in 'the chase'? Or was it removed for camera-mounting or filming reasons?

[MkB]

Here's another (possibly spoilerific) picture of the Aston Martin with a Carabinieri Land Rover.

http://img514.images...bondqos2vp4.jpg

Oh My! These roads are not only narrow and full of twists and turns, they're terribly bumpy too!

That's the doorless one displayed earlier at the press conference site. Why is the door off?

I think it's fair... In CR, Bond was stripped naked and tortured. In QoS, it's the Aston Martin's turn

[MkB]

Another pic of the accident scene:

It looks like the black Mercedes SUV camera car was filming from the road above.

[Major Tallon]

First and foremost, we have to hope that the driver recovers. I also hope, however, that EON is able to salvage these scenes. The locale is amazingly beautiful, the roads and tunnels look like they'd lend themselves to truly exhilarating action sequences, and the parts of the action that we've seen look great. The safety of the crews is obviously paramount, but I hope that the "suspension" of the filming doesn't turn into a cancellation, especially if Italian authorities were to conclude that the entirety of the car chase is too dangerous and revoke permission to film the action sequences at the other locations as well.

[Captain Tightpants]

By all accounts, the accident was a result of the dummy car disconnecting. While there is usually very little margin for error in filming a stunt sequence, that margin is less so on the roads around Lake Garda given that they're so very narrow. Going by reports, the original minor accident that resulted in a stuntsman getting fifteen stitches was just and everyday occupational hazard. I'd be very surprised if stuntmen consistently came out of films without bruises. As for the Aston Martin ending up in the lake, that was the fault of the driver, who I suspect was having a little bit of fun with the car en route to the filming location. The accident that hospitalised the stuntmen was a case of equpiment failure; as we saw during the making of Casino Royale recounts - specifically the scene where they were testing the car-throw at the airport when a cable broke - these things just happen. And going by Murphy's Law, these things happen at the wors possible time.

And I recall reading that the scene where the accident happened was a re-shoot; they'd done it before, and safely, but Dan Bradley either wasn't happy with it or wanted some more footage. I don't think we need to worry about outight cancellation (but I've been wrong before); the worst-case scenario is probably the Italians telling them to use the footage they already have (if what I read was right, that is), or re-writing the scene for something safer, and/or proving that what the filming crew plans to do in the quarries is as safe as they can make it.

[Keir]

I don't know if this is the right place to do so (I was moved here from the "Two stmen (i)n Intensive Care" thread) but I can only wish the best for the stuntman fighting for his life as I type this. It would be hard to enjoy the film knowing that what I'm watching came as a result of someone's tragedy. Anyone else remember the disaster that occurred during the filming of The Twilight Zone movie? It's that which is remembered and not the film itself.

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

Spy Video From 'Quantum of Solace' Lake Garda Press Conference

Sneak peeks at the Aston Martin and chase location

[zstoneVII]

also of interest and related to the earlier news post re: love knot. on 7 seconds of this video you see the gunbarrel effect almost redone with the use of what looks like an algerian love knot! confirmation that it will definitely play a part...

[Captain Tightpants]

also of interest and related to the earlier news post re: love knot. on 7 seconds of this video you see the gunbarrel effect almost redone with the use of what looks like an algerian love knot! confirmation that it will definitely play a part...

Actually, that's a fan-made poster the the maker of the video has put into it. The poster has pretty much been around since the end of Casino Royale (or at least when the release month for Qunatum of Solace was announced) and while it's long been known to be a fan-made poster, several online news sources actually ran it (along with another fan-made poster, believing both to be genuine) with their articles when the initial details of the film - long before the January press conference - were uncovered. The presence of the poster is confirmation of nothing, but don't be embarrassed for mistaking it for the real deal; as several professional journalists proved, anyone can make that mistake.

[Skudor]

That road looks AMAZING! Great location. I hope they don't TWINE it up. I noticed that they used the loveknot in the video as well - does that mean anything?

[Mark_Hazard]

New pics of the cars have been published in Brescia Oggi!
Enjoy!

Whilst I know that the word Halt on roadsigns and markings is spelt similarly in different languages (Halte) and having the same meaning, I didn't realise that Stop meant the same in Italy, or does it? Or is it "dOIS" meaning something very different?

[Captain Tightpants]

That road looks AMAZING! Great location. I hope they don't TWINE it up. I noticed that they used the loveknot in the video as well - does that mean anything?

Are you referring to the image a few seconds in? That's ons of the infamous fan posters, remember?

[MkB]

Whilst I know that the word Halt on roadsigns and markings is spelt similarly in different languages (Halte) and having the same meaning, I didn't realise that Stop meant the same in Italy, or does it? Or is it "dOIS" meaning something very different?

This is just a "STOP" roadsign, which is used in Italy too.

[marktmurphy]

I'd guess that they're both supposed to be the same car- the stuntman car was perhaps waiting off camera and got mixed up. Shame we can't see the numberplates on both cars to see if they're 'playing' the same one onscreen.

Here's yer number plates, Mark. They're supposed to be two cars.

http://img244.images...bondqos1at1.jpg

Aha! Thanks for that- clears that one up.

[deth]

wow! a great video indeed... very reminiscent of the Goldeneye car sequence near Monte Carlo...

[Qwerty]

That road looks AMAZING! Great location. I hope they don't TWINE it up. I noticed that they used the loveknot in the video as well - does that mean anything?

I think that's just a personal touch added by the YouTube member who posted the video.

[Mr. Osato]

...there is much too much invested in the sequence to scrap it. More likely it will be finished later or at another location.

The helocopter sequence in YOLT was attemped on location in Japan, scrapped &
re-shot in Spain. Anything is possible but this sequence WILL be in the film.

[HildebrandRarity]

Was there any doubt?

[Mr Osato likes a healthy chest. ]

[blueman]

Have they started filming again yet?

[MkB]

Well, I don't know what they're doing at the Lake Garda, but they have continued filming at least: since last Friday, filming has begun in two other places (Talamone and Carrara). That's something...

[MkB]

Just found that.

Source: Isle of Man Today (dated April 28th 9:30 AM)
http://www.iomtoday....e-to.4025356.jp

Mark Higgins given licence to thrill in Bond movie

MANX rally driver Mark Higgins has been given a licence to thrill movie goers as he performs stunts for the latest James Bond movie.
The 36-year-old, three times the British Rally Champion, is filming in Italy for the movie Quantum of Solace.

Last week the film was hit by an accident involving another stunt rider.

Aris Comninos suffered head injuries when he crashed an Alfa Romeo during a chase sequence on a notoriously winding road near Lake Garda in northern Italy.

He is now recovering in hospital.

There have been reports of other incidents involving cars being used for stunts, but Mark tells today's Isle of Man Examiner he is 'OK'.

As with all Bond movies, the current production is being made under a shroud of secrecy as producers try to keep details of stunts secret.

Mark is forced to remain tight-lipped about his exact role in the making of the film.

'I'm not really allowed to say much apart from I'm involved in some of the stunt driving for the new Bond film,' said Mark.

'I will probably be involved in

Spoiler

the cars chasing Bond

and may be seen in the film.'

[HildebrandRarity]

Mark Higgins does not say he's going to Italy to film those stunts.

[Captain Tightpants]

Does anyone know if Higgins' inclusion only a recent thing, or if he's been doing it for a while? I remember thinking that they should get a professional rally driver in for the scenes at Lake Garda because if ever you've seen a rally - and you really should - the roads around Lake Garda are the kind of thing they drive at speed daily. Then again, it could simply be a knee-jerk reaction to the accidents.

If this works out, maybe we'll see Bond involved in an off-road rally-style chase in a future film ...

Edited by Captain Tightpants, 29 April 2008 - 02:08 AM.