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[quantumofsolace]

She can still do the Bond theme. The British police don't have a policy of ripping out your vocal chords when arrested

[Captain Tightpants]

She can still do the Bond theme. The British police don't have a policy of ripping out your vocal chords when arrested

No, but she's unreliable at best and could easily bring the film franchise into disrepute. Her problems with drugs and alcohol and now getting arrested create a really bad image, and she shows no sign of changing any time soon. EON don't need that.

[kneelbeforezod]

Winehouse would just give us a regurgitated mix of Goldeneye meets Tomorrow Never Dies crooning.

??? where on earth do you get stuff like this from? Why would a Winehouse Bond theme for this new direction of Bond films sound anything like that half-hearted, limp Sheryl Crow effort?

[stamper]

It's not about the vocal capabilities or her talent anymore, but her image. Same as you wouldn't want bond to drink cheap champagne, endorse fake watches, low quality cars, or cheap suits, you don't want her to sing the theme tune with the bad publicity she attracts. I guess that's fair.

[quantumofsolace]

It's not about the vocal capabilities or her talent anymore, but her image. Same as you wouldn't want bond to drink cheap champagne, endorse fake watches, low quality cars, or cheap suits, you don't want her to sing the theme tune with the bad publicity she attracts. I guess that's fair.

I don't think that's fair. I think her lifestyle is up to her. Nobody is not going to go see the film if she sings the title song. She hasn't murdered or commited arson. All i care about is her voice and thats perfect for Bond.

[Quantumofsolace007]

no see I disagree Craig is a new bond a new style new everything i feel a rock and roll preforme should do it and honestly i think a male rock and roller. Cornell was a bold choice that worked with Craig's bond Winehouse would be much the same. if brosnan did a fifth Winehouse could of done the theme for that no problem... not for Craig.

[stamper]

I agree rock'n'roll is good, but this chick is just... well she doesn't exactly get 100% approval score, let alone 70%. I doubt also she will make punters flog to the theater, it's not the same with Madonna or Garbage, and that's what EON looks at : how much more punters will come.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I do want to say i havern't heard any winehouse song and mayber she could deliver a kick rock and roll heavy power chord put your fist in the air rocker bond theme....

but considering how people are comparing her to shirely bassy i douibt she will.


hoenstly I'm 21 but my knoweldge of popular music ended when Phil Collis left Genesis but i would liie not YKMN part 2 but something with some great guitar work (somithing that is unusal in bond themes for some reason) and something with a rock and roll beat and i'm happy

[Qwerty]

I do want to say i havern't heard any winehouse song and mayber she could deliver a kick rock and roll heavy power chord put your fist in the air rocker bond theme....

You should listen to a few of her songs to get a feel of what she could possibly bring to a Bond theme.

[marktmurphy]

So The Sun was playing hard and fast with the facts... what a surprise. And to think I believed them. Shame on me!

Thank god for that, so The Sun just lied through their backsides once again.

Actually, they were telling the truth. Mark Ronson has confirmed that he and Winehouse are working on a Bond theme together: I heard the clip of him saying so on the radio just now:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...ows/music_week/

He said that there will be more Bond themes in case they 'don't get this one'- so it's a pitch rather than a track which has been officially sanctioned by Eon, but I hope we get to hear it at some point even if they don't get chosen- it should be very interesting to hear.


Also, I heard a quick snatch of an interview with the chaps from Last Shadow Puppets (possibly better known as the front man from Arctic Monkeys) who apparently said they'd like to do a Bond theme too. They'd be rather good- the Shadow Puppets stuff is very epic.

[sharpshooter]

It's a nay for me re: Winehouse. Whenever her music comes on the radio, I switch it over.

[Captain Tightpants]

So The Sun was playing hard and fast with the facts... what a surprise. And to think I believed them. Shame on me!

Thank god for that, so The Sun just lied through their backsides once again.

Actually, they were telling the truth. Mark Ronson has confirmed that he and Winehouse are working on a Bond theme together: I heard the clip of him saying so on the radio just now:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...ows/music_week/

He said that there will be more Bond themes in case they 'don't get this one'- so it's a pitch rather than a track which has been officially sanctioned by Eon, but I hope we get to hear it at some point even if they don't get chosen- it should be very interesting to hear.


Also, I heard a quick snatch of an interview with the chaps from Last Shadow Puppets (possibly better known as the front man from Arctic Monkeys) who apparently said they'd like to do a Bond theme too. They'd be rather good- the Shadow Puppets stuff is very epic.

I wouldn't be crediting The Sun with an overabundance of integrity. They've been linking Amy Winehouse to the theme song since forever, but Ronson seems to have only just come out and said something that confrims she's doing the demo tapes. All The Sun have managed to do is guess it accurately at best; the presence of demo tapes suggests other artists will be doing the same. The Sun haven't hit the nail on the head, they've just been pounding away at one in the hopes that it would be a nail. It's likely there weren't eve anyartists under consideration for the title song back when they ran the reports connecting Winehouse to it. Essentially, they've lied, but it's morphed into the truth.

[marktmurphy]

You haven't got any basis on which to call them liars at all, quite the opposite in fact. Ridiculous.

[Skudor]

Good news that at least Winehouse is auditioning for it. I think her sound could be perfect for the film.

[marktmurphy]

Was the Sheryl Crow Tomorrow Never Dies an independent submission in the same way this Winehouse one is? If so, it does seem there's a precedent for non-commissioned themes to be accepted as the official one.

[Skudor]

I'm sure they must at least have an open invitation or something like that.

[Captain Tightpants]

You haven't got any basis on which to call them liars at all, quite the opposite in fact. Ridiculous.

And you've got less precedent on which to call them truthful. The tabloid papers have a history of inventing stories - that Craig can't drive manual, that he had teeth kicked out, that the production of the film came under thread from gang wars and riots that the film crew may well have started indirectly - and there were months between their initial "facts" and Ronson's announcement. Sure, they may well have had a genuine source way back when ... but there's a history of rumour-mongering and creative writing at the tabloids that make me think this is a rare occasion when they get it right well in advance. In this universe, effect follows cause, not the other way around.

[marktmurphy]

You haven't got any basis on which to call them liars at all, quite the opposite in fact. Ridiculous.

And you've got less precedent on which to call them truthful.

No I haven't- they reported a story which has now been revealed to be true. On what basis are you saying that they made this story up?

there were months between their initial "facts" and Ronson's announcement. Sure, they may well have had a genuine source way back when ... but there's a history of rumour-mongering and creative writing at the tabloids that make me think this is a rare occasion when they get it right well in advance. In this universe, effect follows cause, not the other way around.

They reported it before Ronson confirmed it. Why's that hard to believe? There are also numerous times when The Sun (particularly The Sun because it's the biggest newspaper in the country, which means that it actually has one of the bigger amounts of reporting staff) gets it right; especially with showbiz stories. There is no reason at all to believe that this isn't one of these times. Unless you can prove otherwise, then you're being an even worse rumour-monger than you're accusing them of being.

[MkB]

Source: BBC News http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/7371949.stm

Winehouse working on 'Bond theme'

Amy Winehouse is working on a theme song for the forthcoming James Bond film with Mark Ronson, the producer has confirmed to the BBC.

But Ronson said there are no guarantees the track will be used for Quantum Of Solace as they have not been officially signed up to release the song.

"Hopefully it will get used. We're working on it and we'll see happens," the producer told BBC 6 Music.

Ronson also said he is working with Winehouse on her new album.

He said it was Winehouse who was first approached about the Bond theme tune.

"They asked Amy, and I think Amy said that if she did it, she'd want to do it with me. So hopefully something will come of it," he told the station's Music Week's show.

"The demo sounds like a James Bond theme, hopefully. But I don't know if it'll get used."

He added: "I'm sure there are loads more really famous people that probably we're competing with and we don't know about. I'm not sure.

"But hopefully I'll still be alive for at least 12 more Bond themes. If we don't get this one maybe we'll get another one."

Fingers crossed...

[zencat]

IF she's really recording a Bond tune (and it's a big if considering the source), it doesn't necessarily mean she's got the gig. She could be recording a song on spec.

Note what I said way back when this thread was new. Looks like they are, indeed, doing this on spec.

[kneelbeforezod]

You haven't got any basis on which to call them liars at all, quite the opposite in fact. Ridiculous.

And you've got less precedent on which to call them truthful. The tabloid papers have a history of inventing stories - that Craig can't drive manual, that he had teeth kicked out, that the production of the film came under thread from gang wars and riots that the film crew may well have started indirectly - and there were months between their initial "facts" and Ronson's announcement. Sure, they may well have had a genuine source way back when ... but there's a history of rumour-mongering and creative writing at the tabloids that make me think this is a rare occasion when they get it right well in advance. In this universe, effect follows cause, not the other way around.

I don't think anyone needs educating on the tendency of tabloids to occasionally make stuff up. But that doesn't mean they only make stuff up.

Clearly on this occasion they had a source and reported accurately. They got it right.

[Shrublands]

IF she's really recording a Bond tune (and it's a big if considering the source), it doesn't necessarily mean she's got the gig. She could be recording a song on spec.

Note what I said way back when this thread was new. Looks like they are, indeed, doing this on spec.

Well not entirely on spec.

He said it was Winehouse who was first approached about the Bond theme tune

"They asked Amy, and I think Amy said that if she did it, she'd want to do it with me. So hopefully something will come of it," he (Ronson) told the station's Music Week's show.

[marktmurphy]

Yeah- that makes it sound quite strong- if they suggested that she come up with something. She's playing well to ask to do it with Ronson too.

Even if it doesn't get chosen I hope we get the chance to hear it at some point- I'd love to hear a Bond theme from those two.

Here's 6music's article for the sake of completness:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...rk_ronson.shtml

[Zorin Industries]

Yeah- that makes it sound quite strong- if they suggested that she come up with something. She's playing well to ask to do it with Ronson too.

Even if it doesn't get chosen I hope we get the chance to hear it at some point- I'd love to hear a Bond theme from those two.

Me too. There is actually no-one else remotely capable today of doing a Bond song that is a) a performer known very well in the States (for the right reasons, i.e. the music) and someone that brings a cache to the film. I for one don't care what her substance abuse issues may or may not be - she is not the first Bond song performer who allegedly likes a bit of post-pub partying. Let's get over the prurient and kneejerk Daily Mail reactions to her personal life. It is exactly that. Her personal life. I for one want my rock chicks to have vices. And I think that background would serve a Bond song no end. The clincher for me here is also that the amazing Mark Ronson could be involved. He would get the sound of Bond. The feasible yet misguided suggestions of the likes Massive Attack are all well and good, but I for one want a performer who has a little more to bring to the table than a song or two on an ancient album that sounds a bit like John Barry.

[Skudor]

Great news - so now we know that Winehouse was asked to submit a demo: I assume that's as good as it gets (I'm guessing here that Madonna probably got a free reign to do as she pleased... and we all heard what happened). I'm well pleased. Fingers crossed now (that it's a good one and that they pick it)!

Considering that Arnold is supposed to have been working on the score already, I wonder if Winehouse/Ronson would have been given some sort of theme to work with.

[marktmurphy]

Great news - so now we know that Winehouse was asked to submit a demo: I assume that's as good as it gets (I'm guessing here that Madonna probably got a free reign to do as she pleased... and we all heard what happened). I'm well pleased. Fingers crossed now (that it's a good one and that they pick it)!

Considering that Arnold is supposed to have been working on the score already, I wonder if Winehouse/Ronson would have been given some sort of theme to work with.

Well it depends really, Ronson could have been under or overstating it. Winehouse's people might have suggested she approach Eon and they said 'oh, er, hi; yeah- listen, why not do a little demo of your thoughts for us?', or Eon might have intialised things and got in touch with the Winehouse mob. It's tricky: 'they asked Amy' could mean anything still. Promising, though.

It would be nice if they could get one sorted early enough for Arnold to pop it in the score. If John Barry could do it with someone else's song...

[tim partridge]

Yeah- that makes it sound quite strong- if they suggested that she come up with something. She's playing well to ask to do it with Ronson too.

Even if it doesn't get chosen I hope we get the chance to hear it at some point- I'd love to hear a Bond theme from those two.

Me too. There is actually no-one else remotely capable today of doing a Bond song that is a) a performer known very well in the States (for the right reasons, i.e. the music) and someone that brings a cache to the film.

Michael Buble?

Leona Lewis (she's no different to Sheena Easton)?

I still think they really blew it ignoring Buble in favour of we know his name (apparently) on CASINO ROYALE.

[MkB]

As the saying goes, "to each its own"
But Buble for Craig's Bond? You really think so?

[tambourineman]

Buble? Argh, no thanks.

I think they should continue with the rock, it suits Craig's era well, Id be happy with a Cornell contemporary. Eddie Vedder would be my number one choice, he has done a lot of songs for soundtracks (including a couple on the brilliant Dead Man Walking soundtrack) and think he would be perfect.

[marktmurphy]

Me too. There is actually no-one else remotely capable today of doing a Bond song that is a) a performer known very well in the States (for the right reasons, i.e. the music) and someone that brings a cache to the film.

Michael Buble?

Leona Lewis (she's no different to Sheena Easton)?

I still think they really blew it ignoring Buble in favour of we know his name (apparently) on CASINO ROYALE.

Buble's a bit cheesy and light-entertainment, isn't he? Just a sort of covers guy doing what people did 50 years ago. Can't say that I'd be interested in him doing a Bond theme.